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Can we deport people we disagree with?

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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
So apparently roughly 32,000 gun rights activists at the time of the article have signed a petition urging the U.S. government to deport Piers Morgan for his unabashed stance for gun restrictions. They believe his powerful influence as a CNN anchor (sorry that's hilarious to me...CNN) combined with his attitudes towards gun control laws is tantamount to an attack on the second amendment (nevermind that by following through on this petition would violate his first amendment rights). [link]
So, should we be able to deport nationals with opposing views? By the by there's a petition with over 470,000 signatures to have Macy's end all of it's business dealings with Donald Trump [link]
How many signatures make petitions such as these valid? Is voicing your opinion against the US constitution on your cable talk show the same as attempting to exhort college records from the president?Who's wrong?
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:iconangelxxuan:
angelxxuan Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Professional Writer
petitions are a complete waste, sure they will look at it, blah blah things in place. but I have yet to see someone deported in the USA because people didn't believe with them. disappear forever yes, but not deported ;)
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Please, please, please don't deport Piers Morgan. We don't want him back.
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PSOWILL Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
:evileye: We'll keep him but you still have to keep Mondonna.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Who the glub is Mondonna?
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PSOWILL Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
:paranoid: Madonna..Damn..IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE SHE'S BEEN HERE. :iconjediplx: KEEP HER PLZ.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You should say "foreign national". "National" without "foreign" suggests he's a citizen.

There's no legal validity to any such petition, and the protections of the First Amendment extend to foreigners as well. Someone in the US legally may deported under a number of different circumstances, but merely exercising his right to free speech isn't one of them.

We have considerably greater free speech rights in the US than they do in Morgan's home country of the UK. This sort of thing is very embarrassing.
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CelestialSheep Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He has the power of CNN behind him? May God have mercy on our souls... What can we do to stop him? It's just pure evil!

Anyway, considering how the blundering American populace actually is stupid enough to believe complete freedom is an actual good thing, I would say yes. I wouldn't be surprised, shocked, or emotionally overturned to use the word flabbergasted, if they allowed it.

Who all for voting Obama off our island? Let me just get that petition going...
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ShadowAngel3 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Count me in. :lol:
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I'm pretty sure there are multiple petitions to deport obama
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:iconcelestialsheep:
CelestialSheep Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
WHERE DO I SIGN UP?
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mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I forgot just how influential CNN could be. It's not like they're fair and balanced or anything.
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
They are the lowest rated news channel
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:iconmgonzales041090:
mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Queer Eye once received pretty high ratings. I'm of the school of thought that content, not ratings, is what matters.
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:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
First amendment is only violated if the government stifles speech. Doesn't mean others can't censor.
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OuroborosCobra Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Deportation is a government action.
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:icontacosteev:
tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
Deportation != censorship. He can still say what he wants.
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OuroborosCobra Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Deportation because of speech is censorship.
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:iconferricplushy:
FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
So deporting US nationals is a form on censorship and not protected by the first amendment? Are you from Russia?
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tacosteev Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
Deportation doesn't stop him from saying what he wants.

This petition is nothing from the government anyway. It's just a bunch of nuts being stupid. You're getting worked up over nothing.
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HGWizard Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I wish I could deport people with annoying political views. Like we could make the Westboro Baptist Church Canada's problem!
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
"How many signatures make petitions such as these valid? "

25,000 gets the petition reviewed by someone in the Obama Administration. Then the Administration has the option of commenting on the petition. That's it.
It is not a legal action, it is not a law making mechanism, it is not a way to enforce, create, or manipulate laws.
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:iconferricplushy:
FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
yeah but personally, when should people take notice, is it difficult to get 30,000 like minded to agree on something?
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Never.
Unless 100 million people sign the petition, no one should care.
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
i think you need 25,000 sigs for it to be looked at but there is no guarantee of any action being taken. a better thing would be for people to get a life and get over it.
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
:no:
The petitions are only to gain an audience with the Obama Administration about petitioned topics, not to enact laws.
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:iconferricplushy:
FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
word, what about a petition for no more petitions?
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
there would probably be a petition to prevent petitions against petitions.
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