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How would you fix America?

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Grendeer Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Writer
My studies of history have shown me the gradual decline of America. I'm wondering what ideas you have on how to fix it.

My question: If you could fix America with the flick of a switch, how would you do it?


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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Student Writer
I thought I'd update how I think America should be fixed.
Ultimately, most of America's problems are a result of spiritual apathy or lifelessness. If Christians were to wake up and start living like Christ, then many of America's problems would simply disappear.
Firstly: Economics
The Bible clearly teaches good stewardship. (Lk. 12:42-48) If the government were to observe the teaching of this passage, then America would start to revover from her economic woes.
Secondly: Marriage
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave unto his wife, and they shall be one flesh." (Gen. 2:24) Unfortunately, this one sparks uproar in homosexual communities. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah over this issue, He will destroy America as well.
Thirdly: School
"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes" (Pro. 13:24) This concept sparked the popular phrase, "spare the rod, spoil the child". If schools were allowed to enforce discipline, academics in America would be much stronger. Also, their would be a lower crime right in American schools, because kids would be taught the difference between right and wrong, and the consequences for stepping out of line would be severe.
Continued in next post . . .
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
all they need to do is follow the constitution
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Writer
True, but does that include the Amendments?
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Azza9 Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
I have a solution in mind but it involves unicorns...

If we find a living breathing unicorn willing to help only then will the US be "fixed".

(in other words give us something doable please)
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Writer
This is a hypothetical situation, I am well aware of how difficult it is in real life, that's why I asked the question in the first place.
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Azza9 Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013
I think the original post was political trollbait/ flamebait. I don't think you expect anyone to come up with a feaseable plan to fix a country with so many problems are the US. On a serious note I hope you guys do figure it out.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013  Student Writer
Also, I'll try to bring over someone who has a different view by politely showing them errors in their logic. At the same time, I will not tolerate disrespect of any kind.
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Writer
Actually, the original post was bait for people to come express their feelings without the fear of being trolled.
I will never attack someone, or blatantly attempt to irritate them. I will ask questions, in an effort to understand the reasoning behind what people say, and I will more than happily argue my points of necessary.
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broo4 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013
sounds like u have a good point but to me it could be all fixed if everyone was more educated, and i agree with u about removing all the scumbags out of government. Obama should do a boris yelstin come in pissed and say your all sacked!
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2013  Student Writer
I am not an Obama supporter. In fact, it is his tenor as President that inspired me to create this forum.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
TBH, I'm not very intelligent when it comes to politics. It's not so easy to get into, IMO.
Though, apparently, I'm socialist. So, to fix that place using my knowledge of politics would end up making the place even worse. Though, this is probably what I would to on the top of my head.
Remove all religious and/or corrupt influence from politics. Full stop.
Fix television so that it is less biased. And for the kids, maybe a show that isn't absolutely idiotic. Dora the explorer will be out on her little ass, that's for certain.
Equal rights for all. None of this nonsense where transsexuals would be laughed at by police/doctors/the public. Despite me being an athiest, I'd still permit religion, but I would prohibit the concept of one pushing their beliefs on another. So, you can have your churches and prey to god and stuff, but no breaking your son's metal guitar, or bitchslapping your lesbian daughter. And finally, much more legislations and laws to make sure children and teenagers aren't being bullied, raised badly, or indoctrinated with anything. Oh, and I'd ban all neo-nazis, KKK members, and the WBC would be sent back to kindergarten (in their own little class, so they don't bully the more mature children.)
All in all, this is my opinion. If there is a flaw in my logic, I apologize, but opinions are opinions.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Writer
The Founding Fathers were very religious men, for the most part. Therefore, removing all religion from government would be a very bad idea.
Yes
Being transsexual is wrong, but I'm not going to hate YOU. It is your SIN that I hate.
Yea, those "churches" aren't preaching the Word. The Bible teaches discipline, but not provocation or abuse.
Yes
Be careful about opinions, try to be sure of the facts behind them.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
The founders were most definately not religious. The letters of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams prove that. If they were part of any religion, they were deists.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Writer
The Constitution is based off of several "religious" principles. The fact that it says all men are created equal under God is a clear indication of the founding fathers religious back grounds. Also, Jefferson and Adams lived during the First Great Awakening period (circa 1740-1760). They would have been directly influenced by great preachers like George Whitefield.
Also, they more than likely, were Presbyterian or something close, as that was the dominant religion at the time.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
The Constitution is based off of several "religious" principles. The fact that it says all men are created equal under God is a clear indication of the founding fathers religious back grounds.

The Constitution never mentions God.

Also, Jefferson and Adams lived during the First Great Awakening period (circa 1740-1760). They would have been directly influenced by great preachers like George Whitefield.

The fact that they lived at the same time as George Whitefield means nothing, especially since John Adams was a Unitarian and Thomas Jefferson was a Deist. Also, their letters seem to imply a disdain towards organized Christianity.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Student Writer
You're right, it doesn't, my mistake.

Like I said, the dominant religion at the time was Presbyterian. It does matter that Whitefield, Jefferson, and Adams all shared time. Jefferson and Adams would have heard him speak, and no one was immune to Whitefield.
Being a Deist means that he believed their is a god. He probably believed in the One God, although no one knows if Jefferson ever accepted Christ as his Savior.
Even if Adams was a Unitarian he would still have believed in Jehovah.
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Mclandis Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Believing in God does not mean that the Constitution is based on religious principles. The founders went out of their way to make to keep the government secular. This especially appears in the Treaty of Tripoli which openly declares the United States to not be a Christian nation.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013  Student Writer
It is. God instituted government as a means to curb man's sin nature. But He did not intend for it to be all intrusive. The Treaty is really saying that the US isn't going to fight someone over their religion. It says "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." That does not mean the US was not a Christian nation, which it isn't anymore.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
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First, I higly recommend you read this. It changed my opinion on religion, from "intolerable" to "don't mind.". Assuming all of the bible is that poorly translated, I could totally bring myself to believe in the christian doctrines.

And, "it's your SIN I hate.", really? Be concerned with your own sins, sweetie. The fact the founding fathers were "Religious, for the most part" doesn't change my opinion, plus, assuming the bible ISN'T as poorly translated and/or taken out of context, It does...

But yeah, the WBC is terrible...

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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Writer
I read it. The author points out the different words in the original tongues, but he does not mention the tedious process by which the Bible was translated into English, not does he mention how it was preserved through the ages.
I am. My point was that God hates sin not sinners, because I'm a Christian, I try to be like Christ (God the Son). I must hate sin but not sinners.
I will happily explain how the Bible was translated via a note.
Most true Christians despise what WBC does, those that don't need to get reacquainted with God.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2013
Very well.
I doubt either one of us will change eachother's opinion, so let's save time, and drop this conversation dead, yes?
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2013  Student Writer
Agreed, but that doesn't mean you have to stop posting. Please continue to post.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Oh, and no. I'm not saying the fact that I am socialist is gonna make america worse. the "Apparently I'm a socialist" thing was supposed to be in brackets. I forgot. :(
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
I'd get the fundamentalist imbeciles as far out of office as humanly possible.
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student Writer
How are they imbeciles? What about the President doubling the national debt in his first term?
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
They're imbeciles because of their social policies, not their fiscal.

Anyone who tries to force their religious views upon a greater population through a position of power needs to be canned.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Writer
I don't know of anyone in power who can be accused of doing that.
Besides, true Christians don't force converts, they can only show the facts and let people choose for themselves. That's why I'm a Christian, because, unlike everyone else, you don't have to agree with me.
I started this forum to see who disagreed with me, and to get a greater understanding of what people truly think of America right now.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Fundies are a dense, dangerous bunch.
Plus, they are generally idiots. I have yet to encounter an intelligent one.
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Student Writer
Perhaps I'll be able to change your perspective on fundamentals, as I am one.
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BMagnum Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013
Nope.
:p
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Karinta Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student General Artist
Universal health care, abolish nuclear weapons, strengthen diplomacy with all nations, raise taxes on the richest of us, end subsidies for fossil fuel companies, strongly support renewable energy, strengthen Endangered Species Act, strengthen Social Security, strengthen veterans' pensions, give more support to Native people's rights, reinstate the assault weapons ban, and elect a woman to president.
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Kensai-Kaze Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
>reinstate the assault weapons ban
wait what? Please watch all of the 12hr 44min video: [link]
some highlights:
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We won, please stop believing in media biased reporting.
Also, my letter:
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Info graph: [link]
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Writer
How do you fund it?
Nuclear weapons must be removed on a global level, not just here.
The rich already pay 90% of all taxes.
Currently we don't have to technology to make renewable energy efficient, but as soon as it is, I will gladly make the switch. Why do oil companies need subsidies anyway?
Agreed, but be cautious not to be wasteful.
Yes, fix it.
Yes, they deserve it for risking their lives.
I thought they were American citizens, and therefore have the same rights as everybody else. Correct me if I'm wrong.
The only person who can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. (Edmund Burke)
Only if I believe she would be a good President.
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OddFox17 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Writer
1. Universal Health Care
2. More effective gun-control laws.
3. General sense of responsibility
4. Greater empathy towards others
5. Stricter environmental standards
6. A congress that actually does something
7. Improved immigration laws
8. Stronger economy
9. Less foreign aid to Israel
10. Better relations with other countries
11. Stronger sense of community in cities, suburbs, towns, etc.
12. Slightly higher taxes on the rich
13. Smaller Defense budget
14. Abolition of affirmative action
15. More responsible spending
16. More national parks
17. Preservation of environmentally-sensitive areas
18. Greater awareness environmental problems such as oceanic acidification, climate change, etc
19. Free college education
20. Greater sense of Civic Duty
21. More participation in politics.
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Writer
How?
Yes
Yes
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Are they needed?
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I don't think that's a good idea.
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Yes
No, lower taxes on the rich, with general taxation being equal across the board. Everybody pays the some percentage of taxes.
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Could you elaborate?
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Sure, why not?
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Ok, so long as it is actually scientific.
Nothing ever comes to one, that is worth having, except as a result of hard work.
(Booker T. Washington) Source: [link]
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OddFox17 Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Writer
What do you mean by "actually scientific?"
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Student Writer
I mean that the it should be proved by scientific data, and expose students to both Creation and Evolution.
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broo4 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013
There is a lot more to comment on but if i was to do that i'd be here for a month of sundays typing and i'm not that good at typing. Maybe it's the type of conversation we could have over a few beers!
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Writer
Yes it is.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Student Filmographer
judging from past experiences, i would never trust someone who was that sure they could fix a country that easily.

the majority of the world isn't black and white, with clear good and bad sides; anyone telling you otherwise is trying to manipulate you.
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:icongrendeer:
Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Writer
Good point. However, all I'm asking is for solutions to be given. They just have to be plausible, breif, and polite.
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Filmographer
legalize, regulate and tax marijuana.
free health care
increase taxes on the rich. (unless they contribute in humanitarian efforts within the U.S)
bring back the troops (imo, it's presumptuous to call ourselves 'the world police')
increase gun control and crack down on organized crime.
crack down on government corruption
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Writer
I can see your point, but I don't think it is a good idea.
Free healthcare is extremely difficult to sustain.
The rich make jobs, as do large corporations, reduce taxes so they can make more jobs, which leads to more taxable income and a net profit.
Yes
To what extent (on gun control)?
Yes
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VelvetFish Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Filmographer
marijuana is much safer than alcohol, and can potentially be a major cash crop. (and it'd deny cartels a very large profit from illegally sold marijuana.) Not to mention that it'd create jobs relating to the production, regulation, and distribution of marijuana.

free healthcare can be sustained. ask Canada.

a net profit... for the rich. (seriously; 85% of U.S wealth on 1% of U.S population? tad extreme, amirite?)

and gun restrictions would depend on each state (rural areas would have less gun control, but urban areas would be a lot more restrictive.)
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Student Writer
Point granted.
Not without heavy taxing.
The rich already pay 90% of all taxes in America.
I agree.
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oroborosmosis Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional General Artist
If I could fix America with the flick of a switch, first thing I would do is auto-magically make the businesses most capable of doing so adjust the earnings of their lowest wage-earning employees to acknowledge the basic cost of living for at least one person (rent, food, utilities, the basics). *proofreads* Yeah, it's full of holes, but it comes from experience working such jobs and realizing their significance in relation to the company's business model.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Student Writer
Anything else? You make a good point.
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oroborosmosis Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Professional General Artist
We need some kind of personal transportation better than cars. They are expensive and dangerous and every wage-earner has to drive a one-ton metal bullet at 45mph or more with their two puny human arms back and forth to work every day while avoiding every other aggressive maniac on the friggin road. Every time anything breaks (especially from wear-and-tear) it costs a small fortune before the car is ready to drive safely again. So I would snap my big meaty magic fingers and VOILA uh something safer and cheaper and slower would take their place. I dunno, I guess all the cars would just turn into bicycles and everybody would have to live closer together.
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Grendeer Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Student Writer
How 'bout making cars safer than they already are?
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oroborosmosis Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional General Artist
*wiggle nose* Cars are now indestructible. Also, they can fly. America fixed!
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