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What if Fast Food workers were unionized?

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DannimonDesigns Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I was reading this article [link] and I got to thinking, what if Fast Food Workers were actually unionized? Lets discuss and see what crazy scenarios we can come up with...

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1. How would Unionizing Fast Food Workers affect food prices?
2. Will striking McDonalds and Burger King Workers force you to learn how to cook or eat at a fancier restaurant?
3. Who will be included in these unions, is it just people who work at McDonalds/Burger Kings etc, or will this include waitresses, waiters, baternders etc?
4. Would we be better off eating food from people who are working at a higher wage than someone working at or below minimum wage?
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:iconheaven-spawn:
heaven-spawn Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
dude man i hate unions
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DannimonDesigns Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
You must like the following then:

- Working 18-20 Hour shifts without a break
- Dangerous and deadly working conditions
- No insurance, if injured on the job you lose your job
- no days off for holidays, no vacations, sick days, no personal time, heck your're lucky if you even get a lunch or bathroom break
- No paid overtime, employers can keep you working all day long for weeks straight if they wanted to
- no minimum wage, lets see you try to buy groceries with your $0.15 an hour job
- child labor, must be fun having your little sister or brother crawling through large machines
- environmental laws, you must love the taste of water contaminated with oil, radiation and dangerous chemicals

and dont say the government provided these things, its the Unions that made the government provide these things. Unions are the only line of defense against the super-wealthy from legally coming into your home and selling you for slave wages in the name of capitalism.
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Crotale Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
You should stop drinking whatever flavor koolaid and conduct actual research. The conditions you mentioned have not existed wholesale in the US for decades. Current government regulation takes care of muh of this a local, state and federal levels. Today's unions focus more on higher wages and increased benefits for professionals, not on conditions for unskilled laborers.
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heaven-spawn Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
dude wtf
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defense2 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Baring the US government intervention... This isn't possible and heres why.

1) too many work in this industry.... There are too many uneducated workers who can do the job. (supply and demand)

2) People (namely uneducated) tend to blame the union for everything that goes wrong... even when they did things that the union can't help them with.
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rustyironmonger Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I would stop supporting ALL delis, restaurants and bars, just as I have decided to stop supporting Wal-Mart if they bow to the pressures of this outdated movement living on patriotism and memories of the Industrial Revolution.
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picturefragments Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It would cost more for lower quality food.
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It would no longer be "Fast" food, because the union twats would whinge about how they're being expected to work in a timely manner.
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Rizhnir Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Say goodbye to the dollar menu?
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
you could have the fast food soviet made up of the common workers.
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webnatu Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional General Artist
hahhahaha!!!It wouldn't be call "fast" food any more. lol
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Svenler Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional Photographer
1) Considering that fast food is a highly competitive market with low entry barriers, prices should remain the same in the short run. In the long run, however, price increases and/or lay-offs are likely.

4) Business owners might skimp on quality to keep prices the same, so we might be worse off.
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
"4) Business owners might skimp on quality to keep prices the same, so we might be worse off."

You mean skimp more then they already do? That's scary
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Svenler Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Professional Photographer
McDonald's recently stopped using "pink slime" in their burgers, so yeah, there is always a worse quality possible: [link]

Other fast food joints, however, use better quality products and could more easily skimp on quality. Five Guys would be a good example of that.
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
Five Guys is still not that impressive.
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WolfySpice Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Given what I've heard about the state of fast food work in the US, it sounds necessary in the absence of government protections.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
There would be a lot less people both working for and eating at fast-food joints. Coming from someone who has worked fast food, I can tell you they've got enough BS to worry about without unions.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1. How would Unionizing Fast Food Workers affect food prices?

Maybe not at all. It depends what union demands for their members are, and how employers respond.

Some portion control wouldn''t be such a bad idea. However, I think a price increase that discourages some from consuming so much fast food would probably be good for the society's overall health. Obesity is a major health issue in Western nations and those new nations becoming more westernised. Fast food is dangerous. It's saturated fats, salt and sugar contents should be legislated against in my opinion.

2. Will striking McDonalds and Burger King Workers force you to learn how to cook or eat at a fancier restaurant?

Maybe. Learning how to prepare food for oneself is a rather crucial skill for survival in any case, and nobody should hesitate to know how to make a burger. Grilling a pattie of meat, halving a bun, slicing some tomato, cheese and whatever else one adds to it is not a hard lesson and quickly learnt.

3. Who will be included in these unions

Whover is willing to believe that membership in that particular union would be a useful tool for negotiating with their employer.

4. Would we be better off eating food from people who are working at a higher wage than someone working at or below minimum wage?

The wage of the people making and serving food should have no relationship to the well-being of the comsumer.
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Crotale Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
1. They would increase operating costs, therefore customers either get smaller offerings or higher prices. Either way, each individual restaurant will likely see a diminished workforce as individual employee pay is increased to help offset union dues. I doubt the effect would be one-sided.
2. This is a side effect and should not be an intended consequence of protecting workers' rights.
3. You decide, since you came up with this insane idea.
4. Really? As I stated in #3, any intended consequence designed to bring about unrelated social change should never be the mission of collective bargaining within an industry.
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maddmatt Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
And like minimum wage, the overwhelming consumers of minimum-wage services and products are minimum-wage earners. The price of cheese burgers goes up? You think the customers who patron restaurants with chefs and cooks making nice salaries will be feeling it?

Nope. The kid going to college that works a part-time job and only has $3 for lunch to begin with is going to feel it. And not just on his fast-food lunch. But every aspect of his life.
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maddmatt Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Sorry...hit the button too soon.

Not only are his products more expensive, but now he has to pay fees to a third party to make sure he gets what he and his employer already agreed to as a condition of his employment. Nice.
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DJ0Hybrid Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
One question I would ask: would the younger employees (i.e. high school students) not be required to join? Or would they?
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DannimonDesigns Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Lets just say everybody had to join. You either join the union or you find another job.
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DJ0Hybrid Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
In that case:

1. How would Unionizing Fast Food Workers affect food prices?
Depends honestly. But if I had to guess, then employeers for fast food would just decrease the size of their staff (bad as you now cut out quite a few part time jobs that high school students or college students need/want which won't lead to good things in the economy as they tend to spend their money the quickest) or else not increase the wages to deal with the union fees. As for less chained restaurants, like Steak 'n Shake or Applebeese that run on less employees, there would probably be an increase in price. In terms of the damage, well, that depends on how well the economy is for a given area as well as possibly the location.

2. Will striking McDonalds and Burger King Workers force you to learn how to cook or eat at a fancier restaurant?
I already know how to cook for myself and "fancier" restaurants are too expensive for me. No, this would just be more aggrievating for me when I need to make a once-in-a-blue-moon stop to eat something (then usually get back on the road.)

3. Who will be included in these unions, is it just people who work at McDonalds/Burger Kings etc, or will this include waitresses, waiters, baternders etc?
Situation depending. But most likely, waiters, baternders, etc. would be unionized before employees at fast food restaurants.

4. Would we be better off eating food from people who are working at a higher wage than someone working at or below minimum wage?
Honestly, if you aren't a douche bag in life then it makes little difference. Those in "low rung" jobs are more likely to do something stupid to your food, but that is a very unlikely situation.
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