In extreme cases, sentences that go against a community's recognized rights isn't all together uncommon. Criminals convicted of violent crimes are stripped of their right to carry/own weapons, pedophiles are forbidden from entering public places that are considered family/children-oriented, cyber criminals are forbidden from access to technology, etc.
It isn't a sentence that should be handed out to every deadbeat that ends up in family court, but in some cases I would definitely support it, as well as sterilization in extreme cases. It also should not be limited to men. There are some women who are just as bad as Curtis (if not worse).
hey man just because my sperm is growing in a girls womb, doesn't mean that it's not still my sperm, i am still the rightful owner of that sperm and i am in charge of what happens to it, if i don't want my sperm growing into a baby, then it is my right as a sperm bearing man to put a stop to it, amen.
There's probably a way of temporarily preventing him from impregnating even more women, isn't there? I think it would be fine to enforce that, seeing as any other options I can think of wouldn't really be realistic. Especially if he has any sort of mental problem that might be causing this.
One thing I don't get though is why everyone is calling the mothers of his children stupid. How were they supposed to know about the child support thing? Just because they had his children doesn't mean he told them about it. the only cases I don't understand it is in the one(s) with multiple children, unless they had multiple children in one pregnancy. If they already knew about it, though, then yes, they are idiots.
"I find it necessary to point out that the only reason delinquency in student loans doesn't have more serious repercussions is that the federal government abolished federal debtor's prisons. He was essentially released under conditions as a Wisconsin debtee prisoner. If government can attach provisions without limitation for release from prison, there are no constitutional rights whatsoever"
I think the special situation is the degree of debt he's in. It may also be the way he got into that debt, i.e. creating nearly a dozen adorable little burdens to the state.
I'd imagine it's those two factors in conjunction that encouraged the verdict we see here, and that individual debt or child-creation isn't sufficient to see the state intercede. Or it may be that the state simply cannot make a constitutional argument for simply chopping his dick off with a sword.
I don't find that the degree of debt matters; the marginal cost of an additional child is the same in both cases.
This is inherently a -punitive- act; somebody in a different situation with the same costs would be treated differently.
I find it necessary to point out that the only reason delinquency in student loans doesn't have more serious repercussions is that the federal government abolished federal debtor's prisons. He was essentially released under conditions as a Wisconsin debtee prisoner. If government can attach provisions without limitation for release from prison, there are no constitutional rights whatsoever in a nation in which the law has grown so complex and unknown that officials of the state are granted immunity from breaking laws they didn't know about - an immunity that common citizens are not afforded.
Well, the costs aren't strictly the same; incurring another $10k in missed child support payments isn't the same as incurring another $10k in delinquent student loan payments. Student loans seem to get by just fine without a dad.
You presume incorrectly. Child support is not welfare; the Corey Curtis owes child support to the mothers of the children he helped conceive. I never stated or implied that the money goes to the state; the state's involvement is making sure he pays the money he owes.
From the article I posted in the OP: Corey Curtis has fathered 9 children with 6 different people and is $50,000 behind in child support and owes an additional $40,000 in interest.
In our country it's another way. The state gives money to the family that has kids and and thus people here have kids for that child support money. They don't care about the kids. The more, the merrier!