You are raising a very important and real point that people over look. Where do you draw the line? Is it a miracle cure? or animal cruelty.
Sad but true, humans are disgusting by the fact that we do horrible acts in full conscious capacity.
My position I hate it. But if that lab test saves my little girl's life I'm for it.
This is a horrible assumption. More horrible so due to the fact that I know I'm using an innocent life in order to save one of my own. More disgusted knowing that I might take even more than one in the process.
But, unfortunately I happen to be human, unfair and immoral by nature
Does been human justify this cruel acts? NO by no means, and I hope some day something can raise up and fight us back, we kind off deserve it by now.
I'm curious how many great treatments they've found accidentally, FOR animals, testing products that were originally meant for humans?
no-one ever talks about that.
Though that by no means is a reason to test on animals, but the overall goal IS so that we see positive results in these test subjects.
I am vehemently for animal rights, but I mean, if they can cure cancer in cats by not humans, and you have enough money and love your pets very much, it benefits future generations of cats as well.
however the comments above are purely speculation without actual research. I hope not but there is a possibility that said cures they find for animals that aren't useful in humans are thrown out altogether and not even used in animals.
that is/would be sad, and if that is the case I'm against it because that's what makes it cruel.
needless to say though I still think the whole thing is cruel regardless, and as soon as we find viable alternatives switch to those immediately.
tough question. I have to say it is the way forward. We are lucky that rats and mice mimic humans in their biology so well because they reproduce and age much quicker and we can see results or consequences faster in them then in most other animals. It would take many generations to do the same thing testing humans, and it would be a much smaller sample of test subjects.
This is just in relation to testing human made products on animals. Or testing procedures on them.
As much as I feel really bad for the animals, we would not have the medical or biochemical knowledge we have today if not for testing. I may think it gross and sometimes cruel, but I know that if I were to go into a biological field (which I very well might, I am very interested biochemistry and biotechnology), I would not hesitate to test animals (however i would not test primates, or other endangered animals unless we were trying to find out how to help them and not us).
As there is no practicable method of acquiring large numbers of disposable human test subjects, lesser animals are the closest approximation, and completely indisposable for medical and cosmetic research. The suffering of these animals is of no consequence to us, and by using them as test subjects, we benefit from advances in medical science and ensuring medicine and cosmetics are safe to use. Any person who does not support animal testing is allowing their emotions to cloud their judgement, as they would sacrifice advances in medical science for the wellbeing of animals, which cannot affect them in any way.
Good. Cold practicality is good it does not sway in the sometimes threat of emotion but I guess there is always the way to reduce the pain and suffering of every animal since it is in our capable grasp
Why would you want to reduce the pain and suffering of animals? It is of no consequence to us. As a human, I'm only concerned with the general wellbeing of humans, and see no reason to concern myself with other animals, unless they are of some use to us.
Well we must not act rutheless to other species if they were in our place I would not wish ruthelessness to my own. Above all else these creatures have given us their lives for our happiness the least we can do is lessen or numb their pain.
The least we could do is nothing at all. There is no need to lessen or numb their pain. Their suffering cannot affect us in the slightest, and what you're suggesting is nothing but a waste of anasthetics.
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