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Obama's Second Act of Dictatorship

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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Remember how I pointed out that the contraception mandate issued by Obama through his Secretary of Health and Human Services was an act of dictatorship that sets a precedent for further acts of dictatorship, and you all thought this was ridiculous?

Well, here's dictatorial decree number two: [link]

Obama has imposed a new tax without any Congressional input. This tax will apply to every health insurance company, and be passed on to every consumer through health insurance premiums. Obama can order the Health Secretary to increase this tax at any time, or change how it is implemented, without any Congressional input. This is taxation without representation.

This is all allowed through the "rulemaking" power given to the Secretary of Health Human Services by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. This is the same power that allowed the contraception mandate, and it is nothing short of dictatorial.

No matter who you voted for, or what your political philosophy is, if you think dictatorship is wrong, this should scare you. It's a little late to change your vote, but if you value your liberty, you should be speaking out against the Obama administrations lust for power, and their new dictatorial tools.
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ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You know, I swear you republicans have been accusing Obama of being a dictator so often that you guys have forgotten what actually constitutes a dictatorship. One little tax and suddenly you think he's trying to take over the world or something.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Dictatorship isn't about what the leader imposes. It's about how the leader imposes it.

Obama decided we needed a tax on insurance companies. Then he decreed it. And now it's law. He's legislating by decree. That's called dictatorship.

And the "how" makes a whole lot of absolutely terrifying "whats" very possible and very real.
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ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Did he do anything that was actually against the law? If so, I suggest you take your concerns up with the court system rather then an internet forum. Otherwise you're being unnecessarily alarmist.
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sagethethird Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
What's wrong with people like you is that no amount of truth will ever be enough to get you to think "oh hey, I might in fact be at least the tiniest bit wrong"

it's not the party, its the mentality, it just so happens that the republican party has devolved into this cesspool of people so infatuated with being told they're right facts don't work on them.

So sir, you go off on your tangent about how Obama is apparently the devil and what have you, for whatever reasons, we all know for a fact that the whole reason your "party" is so butthurt about Obama winning isn't because you think he's socialist, it isn't because you think he's a muslim, or dictator, or atheist, or anything that contradicts the LAST thing you said he was (how can he be a muslim and an atheist? what? :lol:) it's because he's black.

let me rephrase that for you, because no it's not even that, I'll be the first to say it's not even racism that's got your panties in a bunde. It's because he's the embodiment your worst nightmare come true, a normal man who is having success by working hard.

So I don't really have an argument for you, just GET OVER IT.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
You racist fuck. Right, so just because I'm white, every single criticism I have MUST derive from racism. You racist sack of shit. You aren't worth the air you breathe.
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ChakatBlackstar Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
He didn't say it was because you were white. He said it was because you were a Republican. Remember, just because all repulican's are white, doesn't mean all white's are republican.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
I'm not even a Republican. That's called prejudice.
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...you know the rest.
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
I love how you blocked me so I couldn't reply. just FYI, it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about, which in this case is very true. Now as I was typing before I figured out you blocked me (yes, there is a Socially Awkward penguine plz, and I made it :))

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case in point (especially since you blocked me wow), facts do not phase your idiocy (and you run from them obviously).

If you'd actually read what I said nowhere did I say you where racist, I mentioned people of your party might be but that wasn't the conclusion I came to. the conclusion I came to was that "you're mad (or the majority of you guys are mad) that a regular guy is gaining success through hard work, your worst nightmare" has nothing to do with racism. Either that or it's a reading comprehension issue. I think the latter of the two problems you might have had trying to wrap your head around what I wrote I'm pretty certain on.

and how pray tell did you get from that that I was racist of all things deary? you must be off your medication.

but needless to say keep proving my point, I'm listening :)
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
The fact that you even feel the need to bring up race or anything else as a potential ulterior motive for my posts or the actions of the Republican Party shows you're not listening and are making racist assumptions. It also shows you're so buried in the media spin that no amount of factual information or data about the failures of socialism could get through to you.

You're living in the left-wing spin-world where France and Norway are the most successful nations in the world, rich people don't pay any taxes, and every dollar the federal government spends is wealth created for the country. There's no way to puncture that bubble until you're willing to admit the media sources you've been following have been lying their asses off to get Obama every bit of power he craves.
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
but more to the point, I voted him because I'm for human rights, that includes Marriage equality, gender equality, but more importantly equality when it comes to health care.

Obama has effectively ended this needless war we've been having, Romney would have kept it going, bombed Iran and gotten us into WWIII.

Aside from my fear of WWIII at the hands of republicans, there's that melting ice cap thing yeah? and aside from that, I don't want to spend 3.40$ a gallon everytime I refuel my car, I like the Chevy Volt and other Electric Vehicles that have been popping up.

With solar recharging stations I would be able to travel the entire United states for Free. how bout that? we need to subsidize that industry, Obama's doing it, that's why i voted for him.

I voted for him because I believe in equal rights for immigrant's children that have lived here all their life and know no other home.

I voted for him because I want state parks instead of Fracking areas. I want wildlife not shopping malls. there is a THRIVING solar power industry in Germany, why can't the US have that?

I voted for him because I believe in the United States of America, not some ideologues version of it.

So stop, really think about the state of the world. it's not the same one as in 1900, like I said we ACTUALLY HAVE the power to destroy it, like end of days kinda shit. Nukes kinda disaster story.

this kind of power is something that can't go to some blithering idiot who only wants to be elected because "God told him", we need someone who actually fucking KNOWS what he's doing. THAT is why I voted for Obama.

So get off your pulpit and go sit at the kids table, let the grownups talk.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
And yet you're apparently against one of the most important human right of all- property rights. [link]

You're against economic growth. You're against growth in prosperity for all classes of people. You're against more equal distributions of wealth, and national stability. You're against the human rights that you claim to be for- because you don't support property rights, and you cannot keep any right without your property rights.
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
orly? I'm against all those things?

where did you get that idea I would like to know, because I neither stated it anywhere nor did I imply it.

and no, the most important human right is health, without that you're dead and you can't have rights because guess what, dead people can't exist TO OWN PROPERTY!

are you braindead?
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You know what bothers me?

Nukes, the fact that they exist freaking gives me nightmares.
it isn't global warming, even abandoned mine drainage that freaks me out, those feel more fixable than dropping an A-Bomb and starting a nuclear war.

Idk I just thought I'd say that, because it seems like such a bigger problem than what the two parties are fighting over in the US.

Just think about it for a second, the culmination of all the "honor" that we thought war was was ultimate destruction.

it kinda eats at the back of your mind until you decide "you know what matters most? being human."

I think that's why I voted for Obama, the other canditate would have gotten us nuked.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
You know what has destroyed more lives than nukes ever have? Socialism.
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s-a-pplz Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. lol

I sir or madame am not a socialist.

but for the sake of argument, it's that way because the last time a nuke was used in war NOONE HAD NUKES BUT US! I wonder why it didn't destroy the world then HMMMMM.

but no, that wasn't what I was getting at. I feel arguing with republicans is like arguing with a two year old, because they keep changing the subject like you and your socialism. only a two year old would just say "but you're stupid!" instead of "but you're a socialist!".

but I digress, if you'd have actually read past "you know what bothers me? nukes" you would have realized the reason I used that as an example.

I was saying such things because nukes didn't exist in the era your politics seem to stem from, no-one was worried about them, and as such their primary concern wasn't their lives, it was their money, because back then nothing larger than life threatened their way of life so it was a given they had rights.

today not so much, and the reason I gave nukes as an example is because you can destroy the world with nukes today. Guess who I don't want behind the button when the time comes to say "yay or nay" whether or not to "fire the missiles"? some dumbfuck republican who has a one track mind and is only in it for the money and not basic human needs and life.

So naturally you're confused about todays politics because they don't fit into the fairy tale land you've constructed for yourself that still says you're living in the victorian era and we still have uses for fucking bayonetts.

so like I said get back to reality, you know 2012, look at the world around you, and shut up and let the grownups talk, unless you want to grow up and realize there's an entirely different world out there than the one cooked up for you by Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.
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NeoWarriorCat Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
This is clever but the exact sort of clever thing that should be kept very far away from the halls of government.

Of course your magical ability to never post without being as over the top as possible has everyone essentially fighting over the labels in your post, while the fact nugget that makes up its core is a bit chilling if nothing else.



And no, by this point it's really not their fault. It's well within an author's power to alter how they present information, especially when they engage the same audience as often as you do.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
The audience I'm engaging doesn't respect liberty or the limits of power. They see no evil when Obama is in power. If I deliberately toned-down this post, it would be passed over and dismissed as insignificant. They trust Obama way too much to be concerned. At least this way, I got a bunch of people paying attention, even if right now they're lashing out.
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NeoWarriorCat Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
But they're not paying attention to the message, they're paying attention to all the crap you've covered the message with. What discussion there is in this thread has centered around that instead of the actual message. This happens with all of your posts. As far as writing strategies go, this seems to be a self defeating one.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
They'll never get the message. The point is to show them that they'll never win, no matter how much they gang up, no matter how loudly they scream.

See? [link] They won't ever get it. Even the strongest proof possible won't dent their hard skulls.
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NeoWarriorCat Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
That's... honestly quite sad man. Is this really what you want to do with your free time?
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
You aware of Obama's latest demand in the name of stopping us from going over the fiscal cliff, TBS?

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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
His demands are just turning into an authoritarian shopping list. I don't think it's possible to avoid a damaging outcome at this point. The most important thing right now is that the Republicans only pass measures that can be undeniably pinned on Obama and undone later. Elimination of the debt ceiling doesn't fit into that category.
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sonrouge Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
What amazes me is that he's able to make such a demand. Shows how low our country has come when a president can openly ask for dictatorial powers and isn't automatically crucified.
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JesusArtwork Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Obama signed a bill recently, giving himself permission to turn all all communication & internet in America in the case of an emergency.

What's coming Mr. Obama, what do you know?
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Scnal Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Didn't every president (after the internet became more than just a small project, of course) have to do that?
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doodlerTM Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Student Writer
Please go to North Korea and then come back and tell me that America is a dictatorship.

Oh wait, you can't go to North Korea because they're a closed country and under an ACTUAL dictatorship. Whoops.
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Debit Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It would be rather amusing to see him join North Korea and ene up finding himself participating in mass games celebrating Kim 'the Great Leader (and also the Eternal President)' Il-Sung and Kim 'the Beloved Leader' Jong-Il. :D
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Sexy-Cowboy-Predator Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Do you think that America will become equal to North Korea overnight? The American people will never tolerate that. So it will be a slow progression over many many many years. Tons of little steps that are not all that noticable but they are all in the same direction. So no, America as of December, 2012 is not equal to North Korea, but give it enough time and it very well could be. Our constitution and civil liberties have been erroded for years and theres no sign of it being stopped because people keep saying "its not that bad, were not North Korea!" It probably wont happen in our lifetime, but its definately on the right track for it to happen at some point.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
People have been saying that for decades yet it hasn't happened. What do you think the people of the wild west said when governments started to assert themselves in the newly gained territories? You think they spouted the same rhetoric about government controlling their lives, tyranny and all that rubbish? People are always making the same bold claims and always they are being shown incorrect.
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Sexy-Cowboy-Predator Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
if your going to try and tell me we have the same liberties today that our grandparents and great grandparents had im going to have to disagree. when we have congressmen standing up and saying that federal government can and should do whatever it wants irrespective of the constitution, id say we are in a bad place.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
No you don't but you have hardly failed either. Also there are points in the US history where you had the rights of groups completely removed. You think blacks have less rights now? How about asians?
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Sexy-Cowboy-Predator Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes,in the past, America has made awful, horrific mistakes in regards to the rights of certain groups. Ones that we should neither condone nor forget. In some cases, this country is still making those mistakes and it needs to be curtailed, but thats a different story. Im not talking about specific groups of people, here. Im talking about every citizen regardless of race or religion or anything at all. What is happening is happening to ALL of us, and we should be concerned with the evergrowing power and presence of the government.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Oh so persecution doesn't matter if it's against a minority? Bullshit. If rather than a black person, a white person experienced the same discrimination back then, would you be dismissing it as "a different story"? Like hell you would. Targetted persecution by the state and general persecution are the same thing. Both are bad, infact the former is worse.

In the past the Us has forcefully relocated people, been involved in detention without trial, forced conscription, excessive taxation and a variety of other actions that remove people's freedoms but none have caused a tyranny. Vigilance is not the same as hyperbole. Rights ARE being curtailed in the USA but to claim this is the worst time in history or even bad in comparison to other developed nations is laughable. If it was really an important issue, it would get into government. The debt became a big issue and suddenly you have Republicans in Congress fighting almost exclusively about debt. If people got angry enough that they were losing freedoms them you would see government change.

The state is obliged to protect your rights but it's still up to the general populace to be vigilant and demand changes if the state imposes itself too much.
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Sexy-Cowboy-Predator Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
When I said "thats a different story" it means its a totallly different topic then what Im alking about here. Im not dismissing it, Im dismissing the de-railment of the conversation into something its not.

This conversation is NOT about the slave trade
This conversation is NOT about internment camps during WWII
This conversation is NOT about Jim Crow laws.
This conversation is NOT about the Indian Wars.

Your attempt to turn into a conversation about these things is what Im dismissing, not the crimes themselves.

Now that we have gotten that cleared up...

You underestimate the apathy and memory loss of the average American voter. Combined with the fact that Americans baisically vote for who they see the most of on TV rather then what they are actually saying, and you have very little chance of stopping the machine. Hell,they elected man 18 times who says "there are very few constitutional limits that would prevent the federal government from affecting your private life."
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Agburanar Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
I'm trying to figure out how Obama is more dictatorial than Bush. Or how Romney would have been better in this regard.

You know very well that executive power has increased exponentially. And the American populace has been all for it! They expect presidents to fix the economy, end wars and keep them safe by fiat, after all.
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Novuso Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
How about all the times Obama sent drone attacks to murder people without due process including a 16 year old American who was completely innocent. [link] This is not about taxes but about life and death.
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Agburanar Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
>Implying Bush was any different

It's like you didn't read what I typed in up there.
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RestInMotion Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
He read Bush.
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Trorbes Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Obama's actions are an extension of Bush's War on Terror; that American had been on the 'terrorist' lists for years before Obama took office, if I recall correctly. And Romney certainly didn't promise an end to drone attacks either.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Bush didn't have the power to unilaterally raise taxes on everyone and force everyone to buy a product. Both of these are powers that Obama now claims.

Romney was campaigning on repealing ObamaCare, which is the bill that gave Obama these powers.
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Agburanar Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
He didn't have that power because he didn't see fit to take it. He did, however, authorize the NSA and CIA to engage in illegal domestic spying.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Also because Congress would never have given that sort of legislative power to George W. Bush. But put a black man in the White House, and suddenly all bets are off. Any limits on his power are "racist," according to most of the major media companies.
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Trorbes Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
A widespread racially-motivated conspiracy? What a perfect way to justify your paranoia and your racism at the same time!
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I'm not inventing a conspiracy. I'm quoting the media. You're the one who applied the term "conspiracy." Do you think it qualifies as a conspiracy when groups of journalists are caught plotting on the JournoList forum to spin everything the Republicans do as racist?
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Trorbes Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
Clearly that was a conspiracy. Of course, unlike how Fox News (largest news broadcaster in the country) is essentially a wing of the Republican party, I can't seem to find much suggesting JournoList to have been quite as pervasive in the media as you suggest, what with it only having a roster of about 400 members or so, and dead. Not to mention, I question if they really 'spun everything the Republicans do as racist.' Either way, you do seem to love accusing black people of 'reverse racism.'
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Lupin-da-3rd Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
so unilaterally raising taxes = dictator
but
unilaterally imprisoning individuals and eliminating due process ≠ dictator
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
You forget that the elimination of due process only applied to non-citizens until Obama came into power.
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
This tax was a piece of the affordable healthcare act that was passed by congress.....please stop just blatantly lying about every fucking thing you worthless human trash.
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TBSchemer Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
No, it wasn't. If that were the case, we all would have been able to read about it years ago, instead of it suddenly appearing when Kathleen Sebelius announces it.
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