Obama's Second Act of Dictatorship


TBSchemer's avatar
Remember how I pointed out that the contraception mandate issued by Obama through his Secretary of Health and Human Services was an act of dictatorship that sets a precedent for further acts of dictatorship, and you all thought this was ridiculous?

Well, here's dictatorial decree number two: [link]

Obama has imposed a new tax without any Congressional input. This tax will apply to every health insurance company, and be passed on to every consumer through health insurance premiums. Obama can order the Health Secretary to increase this tax at any time, or change how it is implemented, without any Congressional input. This is taxation without representation.

This is all allowed through the "rulemaking" power given to the Secretary of Health Human Services by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. This is the same power that allowed the contraception mandate, and it is nothing short of dictatorial.

No matter who you voted for, or what your political philosophy is, if you think dictatorship is wrong, this should scare you. It's a little late to change your vote, but if you value your liberty, you should be speaking out against the Obama administrations lust for power, and their new dictatorial tools.
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ChakatBlackstar's avatar
You know, I swear you republicans have been accusing Obama of being a dictator so often that you guys have forgotten what actually constitutes a dictatorship. One little tax and suddenly you think he's trying to take over the world or something.
TBSchemer's avatar
Dictatorship isn't about what the leader imposes. It's about how the leader imposes it.

Obama decided we needed a tax on insurance companies. Then he decreed it. And now it's law. He's legislating by decree. That's called dictatorship.

And the "how" makes a whole lot of absolutely terrifying "whats" very possible and very real.
ChakatBlackstar's avatar
Did he do anything that was actually against the law? If so, I suggest you take your concerns up with the court system rather then an internet forum. Otherwise you're being unnecessarily alarmist.
sagethethird's avatar
What's wrong with people like you is that no amount of truth will ever be enough to get you to think "oh hey, I might in fact be at least the tiniest bit wrong"

it's not the party, its the mentality, it just so happens that the republican party has devolved into this cesspool of people so infatuated with being told they're right facts don't work on them.

So sir, you go off on your tangent about how Obama is apparently the devil and what have you, for whatever reasons, we all know for a fact that the whole reason your "party" is so butthurt about Obama winning isn't because you think he's socialist, it isn't because you think he's a muslim, or dictator, or atheist, or anything that contradicts the LAST thing you said he was (how can he be a muslim and an atheist? what? :lol:) it's because he's black.

let me rephrase that for you, because no it's not even that, I'll be the first to say it's not even racism that's got your panties in a bunde. It's because he's the embodiment your worst nightmare come true, a normal man who is having success by working hard.

So I don't really have an argument for you, just GET OVER IT.
TBSchemer's avatar
You racist fuck. Right, so just because I'm white, every single criticism I have MUST derive from racism. You racist sack of shit. You aren't worth the air you breathe.
ChakatBlackstar's avatar
He didn't say it was because you were white. He said it was because you were a Republican. Remember, just because all repulican's are white, doesn't mean all white's are republican.
TBSchemer's avatar
I'm not even a Republican. That's called prejudice.
s-a-pplz's avatar
if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck...you know the rest.
s-a-pplz's avatar
I love how you blocked me so I couldn't reply. just FYI, it makes you look like you don't know what you're talking about, which in this case is very true. Now as I was typing before I figured out you blocked me (yes, there is a Socially Awkward penguine plz, and I made it :))

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case in point (especially since you blocked me wow), facts do not phase your idiocy (and you run from them obviously).

If you'd actually read what I said nowhere did I say you where racist, I mentioned people of your party might be but that wasn't the conclusion I came to. the conclusion I came to was that "you're mad (or the majority of you guys are mad) that a regular guy is gaining success through hard work, your worst nightmare" has nothing to do with racism. Either that or it's a reading comprehension issue. I think the latter of the two problems you might have had trying to wrap your head around what I wrote I'm pretty certain on.

and how pray tell did you get from that that I was racist of all things deary? you must be off your medication.

but needless to say keep proving my point, I'm listening :)
TBSchemer's avatar
The fact that you even feel the need to bring up race or anything else as a potential ulterior motive for my posts or the actions of the Republican Party shows you're not listening and are making racist assumptions. It also shows you're so buried in the media spin that no amount of factual information or data about the failures of socialism could get through to you.

You're living in the left-wing spin-world where France and Norway are the most successful nations in the world, rich people don't pay any taxes, and every dollar the federal government spends is wealth created for the country. There's no way to puncture that bubble until you're willing to admit the media sources you've been following have been lying their asses off to get Obama every bit of power he craves.
s-a-pplz's avatar
but more to the point, I voted him because I'm for human rights, that includes Marriage equality, gender equality, but more importantly equality when it comes to health care.

Obama has effectively ended this needless war we've been having, Romney would have kept it going, bombed Iran and gotten us into WWIII.

Aside from my fear of WWIII at the hands of republicans, there's that melting ice cap thing yeah? and aside from that, I don't want to spend 3.40$ a gallon everytime I refuel my car, I like the Chevy Volt and other Electric Vehicles that have been popping up.

With solar recharging stations I would be able to travel the entire United states for Free. how bout that? we need to subsidize that industry, Obama's doing it, that's why i voted for him.

I voted for him because I believe in equal rights for immigrant's children that have lived here all their life and know no other home.

I voted for him because I want state parks instead of Fracking areas. I want wildlife not shopping malls. there is a THRIVING solar power industry in Germany, why can't the US have that?

I voted for him because I believe in the United States of America, not some ideologues version of it.

So stop, really think about the state of the world. it's not the same one as in 1900, like I said we ACTUALLY HAVE the power to destroy it, like end of days kinda shit. Nukes kinda disaster story.

this kind of power is something that can't go to some blithering idiot who only wants to be elected because "God told him", we need someone who actually fucking KNOWS what he's doing. THAT is why I voted for Obama.

So get off your pulpit and go sit at the kids table, let the grownups talk.
TBSchemer's avatar
And yet you're apparently against one of the most important human right of all- property rights. [link]

You're against economic growth. You're against growth in prosperity for all classes of people. You're against more equal distributions of wealth, and national stability. You're against the human rights that you claim to be for- because you don't support property rights, and you cannot keep any right without your property rights.
s-a-pplz's avatar
orly? I'm against all those things?

where did you get that idea I would like to know, because I neither stated it anywhere nor did I imply it.

and no, the most important human right is health, without that you're dead and you can't have rights because guess what, dead people can't exist TO OWN PROPERTY!

are you braindead?
s-a-pplz's avatar
You know what bothers me?

Nukes, the fact that they exist freaking gives me nightmares.
it isn't global warming, even abandoned mine drainage that freaks me out, those feel more fixable than dropping an A-Bomb and starting a nuclear war.

Idk I just thought I'd say that, because it seems like such a bigger problem than what the two parties are fighting over in the US.

Just think about it for a second, the culmination of all the "honor" that we thought war was was ultimate destruction.

it kinda eats at the back of your mind until you decide "you know what matters most? being human."

I think that's why I voted for Obama, the other canditate would have gotten us nuked.
TBSchemer's avatar
You know what has destroyed more lives than nukes ever have? Socialism.
s-a-pplz's avatar
you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. lol

I sir or madame am not a socialist.

but for the sake of argument, it's that way because the last time a nuke was used in war NOONE HAD NUKES BUT US! I wonder why it didn't destroy the world then HMMMMM.

but no, that wasn't what I was getting at. I feel arguing with republicans is like arguing with a two year old, because they keep changing the subject like you and your socialism. only a two year old would just say "but you're stupid!" instead of "but you're a socialist!".

but I digress, if you'd have actually read past "you know what bothers me? nukes" you would have realized the reason I used that as an example.

I was saying such things because nukes didn't exist in the era your politics seem to stem from, no-one was worried about them, and as such their primary concern wasn't their lives, it was their money, because back then nothing larger than life threatened their way of life so it was a given they had rights.

today not so much, and the reason I gave nukes as an example is because you can destroy the world with nukes today. Guess who I don't want behind the button when the time comes to say "yay or nay" whether or not to "fire the missiles"? some dumbfuck republican who has a one track mind and is only in it for the money and not basic human needs and life.

So naturally you're confused about todays politics because they don't fit into the fairy tale land you've constructed for yourself that still says you're living in the victorian era and we still have uses for fucking bayonetts.

so like I said get back to reality, you know 2012, look at the world around you, and shut up and let the grownups talk, unless you want to grow up and realize there's an entirely different world out there than the one cooked up for you by Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.
NeoWarriorCat's avatar
This is clever but the exact sort of clever thing that should be kept very far away from the halls of government.

Of course your magical ability to never post without being as over the top as possible has everyone essentially fighting over the labels in your post, while the fact nugget that makes up its core is a bit chilling if nothing else.



And no, by this point it's really not their fault. It's well within an author's power to alter how they present information, especially when they engage the same audience as often as you do.
TBSchemer's avatar
The audience I'm engaging doesn't respect liberty or the limits of power. They see no evil when Obama is in power. If I deliberately toned-down this post, it would be passed over and dismissed as insignificant. They trust Obama way too much to be concerned. At least this way, I got a bunch of people paying attention, even if right now they're lashing out.
NeoWarriorCat's avatar
But they're not paying attention to the message, they're paying attention to all the crap you've covered the message with. What discussion there is in this thread has centered around that instead of the actual message. This happens with all of your posts. As far as writing strategies go, this seems to be a self defeating one.
TBSchemer's avatar
They'll never get the message. The point is to show them that they'll never win, no matter how much they gang up, no matter how loudly they scream.

See? [link] They won't ever get it. Even the strongest proof possible won't dent their hard skulls.
NeoWarriorCat's avatar
That's... honestly quite sad man. Is this really what you want to do with your free time?
sonrouge's avatar
You aware of Obama's latest demand in the name of stopping us from going over the fiscal cliff, TBS?

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TBSchemer's avatar
His demands are just turning into an authoritarian shopping list. I don't think it's possible to avoid a damaging outcome at this point. The most important thing right now is that the Republicans only pass measures that can be undeniably pinned on Obama and undone later. Elimination of the debt ceiling doesn't fit into that category.
sonrouge's avatar
What amazes me is that he's able to make such a demand. Shows how low our country has come when a president can openly ask for dictatorial powers and isn't automatically crucified.