Trayvon 2? Stand Your Ground again
Apparently another Stand Your Ground case involving a black teen getting executed by a trigger happy older male is unfolding in Florida.
White dude opened up on a couple black teens in a parking lot over loud music.
If the dude just waited in his car and shut the fuck up, he wouldn't be in jail and a kid would still be alive.
White dude opened up on a couple black teens in a parking lot over loud music.
If the dude just waited in his car and shut the fuck up, he wouldn't be in jail and a kid would still be alive.
Police allege that while the girlfriend was in the store, Dunn told Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and his three friends to turn down their music.
After an exchange of words, Dunn began shooting with a handgun.
His attorney, Robin Lemonidis, said:
It will be very clear that Mr. Dunn acted very responsibly and as any responsible firearms owner would have acted under these circumstances.
Yes. Shooting nine times into an SUV full of teenagers is always responsible.
Mr. Dunn is going to have to answer the question, 'Why did you not call the sheriff's office? If you are reasonably protecting yourself, why did you leave the scene, get in the car, and the next day, flee the jurisdiction of Duval County?' … There's no indication that Jordan or anyone else in that car had a gun, there's no indication that they were any threat to Mr. Dunn.
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This has got to be the STUPIDEST LAW IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY!!! Someone, please, KILL the Stand Your Ground Act!
wtf is stand your ground
someone threatens your life you can kill'em
Yeah man.
Another angry white dude too.
Another angry white dude too.
Maybe the shooter should use the Bob Costas defense. You know, the one where the gun made him do it, all because guns are evil.
Yes. I think that would be a good start.
The teenagers left the scene first. They returned to the scene of the shooting some twenty minute later. They drove around for twenty minutes with a dead or dying kid in the back seat, and instead of going to the hospital, returned to the scene of the shooting to report the shooting.
That's not exactly normal behavior, either. Either way, gas station surveillance footage should resolve the issue.
That's not exactly normal behavior, either. Either way, gas station surveillance footage should resolve the issue.
They're teens who just got shot up. Blame them for not being smart enough.
They still didn't initiate the conflict. They didn't approach a white man while armed.
They still didn't initiate the conflict. They didn't approach a white man while armed.
Approaching somebody while armed is not "initiating conflict."
He should have stayed in the vehicle and waited for his chick to come out and then leave the parking lot.
Instead he chose to take his attitude and firearm across the parking lot and initiate a conflict.
Instead he chose to take his attitude and firearm across the parking lot and initiate a conflict.
what is there to resolve?
Guy doesn't like music. Pulls out gun and opens fire. Kills kid. Drives away for happy hour in motel with GF, leaves the jurisdiction without reporting incident to police.
Guy doesn't like music. Pulls out gun and opens fire. Kills kid. Drives away for happy hour in motel with GF, leaves the jurisdiction without reporting incident to police.
Yeah, his behavior wasn't right. Neither was the behavior of the teenagers. Again, somebody gets shot, you don't drive around for twenty minutes and then return to the scene of the crime, you go to a goddamn hospital.
teenagers do not make rational decisions all of the time. They are teenagers.
That touches beyond "irrational" and into the realm of "suspicious."
They might have been doing something illegal, but harmless, like smoking pot. It could also be that they wanted to get away from the crazy person who was trying to kill them, and underestimated the damage done by a gunshot wound.
There are other possibilities, yes, which is why the behavior is suspicious, not a smoking gun. Which is why security footage would be important, if it exists.
only from a suspicious adult's point of view.
You see, it is far less suspicious to me that teens would do that, than it is that a grown man would shoot kids, go to a motel and then flee the jurisdiction of police when he discovered he had killed someone.
You see, it is far less suspicious to me that teens would do that, than it is that a grown man would shoot kids, go to a motel and then flee the jurisdiction of police when he discovered he had killed someone.
Disclosure: I've met the shooter in question. And calling him a "grown man" is a bit of a stretch. His maturity level is about on par with that of a teenager.
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now that old white guy has street cred...any gang will be glad to have him!!!!!!
hahaha! yeah
shouldn't you be more worried about blacks shooting at other blacks...this happens about 100 times more frequently?
color shouldn't come into the discussion when it is someone shooting someone else under such circumstances. I'm sure that teenager bled out in the same color as a white kid would, and be missed by his parents just as much.