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Trayvon 2? Stand Your Ground again

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EbolaBears Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
Apparently another Stand Your Ground case involving a black teen getting executed by a trigger happy older male is unfolding in Florida.

White dude opened up on a couple black teens in a parking lot over loud music.
If the dude just waited in his car and shut the fuck up, he wouldn't be in jail and a kid would still be alive.


Police allege that while the girlfriend was in the store, Dunn told Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and his three friends to turn down their music.

After an exchange of words, Dunn began shooting with a handgun.




His attorney, Robin Lemonidis, said:

It will be very clear that Mr. Dunn acted very responsibly and as any responsible firearms owner would have acted under these circumstances.


Yes. Shooting nine times into an SUV full of teenagers is always responsible.


Mr. Dunn is going to have to answer the question, 'Why did you not call the sheriff's office? If you are reasonably protecting yourself, why did you leave the scene, get in the car, and the next day, flee the jurisdiction of Duval County?' There's no indication that Jordan or anyone else in that car had a gun, there's no indication that they were any threat to Mr. Dunn.




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:iconkiwi-punch:
Kiwi-Punch Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student Digital Artist
This has got to be the STUPIDEST LAW IN THE HISTORY OF HISTORY!!! Someone, please, KILL the Stand Your Ground Act!
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heaven-spawn Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
wtf is stand your ground
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
someone threatens your life you can kill'em
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012
[link] ok now it's getting stupid.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Yeah man.
Another angry white dude too.
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
:nod:
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:iconcrotale:
Crotale Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
Maybe the shooter should use the Bob Costas defense. You know, the one where the gun made him do it, all because guns are evil.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Yes. I think that would be a good start.
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Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The teenagers left the scene first. They returned to the scene of the shooting some twenty minute later. They drove around for twenty minutes with a dead or dying kid in the back seat, and instead of going to the hospital, returned to the scene of the shooting to report the shooting.

That's not exactly normal behavior, either. Either way, gas station surveillance footage should resolve the issue.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
They're teens who just got shot up. Blame them for not being smart enough.
They still didn't initiate the conflict. They didn't approach a white man while armed.
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Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Approaching somebody while armed is not "initiating conflict."
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
He should have stayed in the vehicle and waited for his chick to come out and then leave the parking lot.

Instead he chose to take his attitude and firearm across the parking lot and initiate a conflict.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
what is there to resolve?

Guy doesn't like music. Pulls out gun and opens fire. Kills kid. Drives away for happy hour in motel with GF, leaves the jurisdiction without reporting incident to police.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah, his behavior wasn't right. Neither was the behavior of the teenagers. Again, somebody gets shot, you don't drive around for twenty minutes and then return to the scene of the crime, you go to a goddamn hospital.
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:iconcouchycreature:
CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
teenagers do not make rational decisions all of the time. They are teenagers.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That touches beyond "irrational" and into the realm of "suspicious."
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tehbigd Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
They might have been doing something illegal, but harmless, like smoking pot. It could also be that they wanted to get away from the crazy person who was trying to kill them, and underestimated the damage done by a gunshot wound.
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Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There are other possibilities, yes, which is why the behavior is suspicious, not a smoking gun. Which is why security footage would be important, if it exists.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
only from a suspicious adult's point of view.

You see, it is far less suspicious to me that teens would do that, than it is that a grown man would shoot kids, go to a motel and then flee the jurisdiction of police when he discovered he had killed someone.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Disclosure: I've met the shooter in question. And calling him a "grown man" is a bit of a stretch. His maturity level is about on par with that of a teenager.
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:iconcouchycreature:
CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
then what is he doing with a gun in a holster leaving a wedding anyway wtf??
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
now that old white guy has street cred...any gang will be glad to have him!!!!!!
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
hahaha! yeah
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
shouldn't you be more worried about blacks shooting at other blacks...this happens about 100 times more frequently?
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:iconcouchycreature:
CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
color shouldn't come into the discussion when it is someone shooting someone else under such circumstances. I'm sure that teenager bled out in the same color as a white kid would, and be missed by his parents just as much.
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
yeah, to bad he beat the fuck out of that little mexican dude
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:iconcouchycreature:
CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
WTF are you talking about? (it is obviously not the same thing as I am)
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
The black on black violence usually doesn't end with lawyers abusing local laws. So it's okay to ignore that.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I... er... it... what?

Not that I agree with Meanus, but I don't think what you wrote is what you meant to write. I hope not, anyways.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
I said what I said.
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:icondelusionalhamster:
delusionalHamster Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Excuse me, but are you a racist?
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
IF I am its none of your business, stop trying to get up in my business fool
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:icondelusionalhamster:
delusionalHamster Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I PITY THE FOOL WHO IS RACIST
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
I pity the fool who is a fool
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:icondelusionalhamster:
delusionalHamster Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're a racist but you quote Mr T?
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:iconmeanus:
meanus Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
why are you calling me names asshole
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:icondelusionalhamster:
delusionalHamster Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
because your hot pink avatar makes me feel all gay for you and I'm just overcompensating
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bohobella Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
God, that man looks like the poster child for your stereotypical Privileged Opinionated Middle Aged White Guy.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
He sure does.

The fact that he got out of his car while packing to instigate a confrontation with black teens, I think, is very telling.
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:iconunvalanced:
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I hope the implications of this aren't what you intended, either.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Maybe
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:icondefense2:
defense2 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Nope, this isn't stand your ground. In fact the first stand your ground between Zimmerman and TM was a better case.

This was simply murder.
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Sounds like it
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Most people don't know that Florida isn't the only state with a stand your ground law. But florida is just a dysfunctional state in general. Have to wait 10 hours to vote, was one of 3 states that attempted to enact voter suppression laws, at one point last decade pain clinics were rampant in Florida and it was very easy to collect 4 or more narcotic prescriptions in a day, tried to make drug testing mandatory to receive welfare though the lawmakers refused to be drug tested, and did I mention stand your ground?
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:iconagent-sarah:
Agent-Sarah Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Has sex offenders roaming around the state...
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mgonzales041090 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
And of course...We are going to here from the gun lobby and trigger-happy Republicans who think "boy I love guns so I can become a vigilante!".

Though, a slight difference in this from Trayvon. There's no profiling in this one.
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:icondefense2:
defense2 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Ownership of a fire arm doesn't allow for vigilantism.

In neither case was there actual property being stolen, lives threatened (by the persons shot/killed) and the shooters approached the victims.

Neither case was one of defense, but of offense.

I wish that one of these nuts would try this to a armed thug some time. Would be funny to see red neck, gun toting republican vs real thugs... My money is in the thugs, what about you?
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:iconpsowill:
PSOWILL Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
:lol: I love how a Liar called me a bigoted when I proved him wrong and called him a liar. [link]
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:iconebolabears:
EbolaBears Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I got called a pedophile because I proved a chick wrong when she said it's impossible to own a tiger in the United States.
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JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
no offense, your avatar IS pedo-bear
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