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More interested in going to lectures than seeing Will and Kate

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Fly-gonz Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Not sure if this goes in the politics section, but...

Will and Kate were visiting my university today. They blocked all the entrances so it took forever for me to get to class. I would have much rather gone to class...

Anyone British here? (I'm a Canadian studying in England.) What are your views on the monarchy?
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JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
American Here:

I see the monarchy as a by-gone relic of another age. Slightly more refined and less stupid than American celebrities, but a similar equivalent.
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nerofly Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Considerably more refined and less stupid than the majority of your presidents.
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JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
"Considerably more refined and less stupid than the majority of your presidents."

If reading the tabloids is any indiciation, they are slightly more refined and intellegent than our CELEBRITIES.

Yes, they are a level bellow our politicians.
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nerofly Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
The function of the King in promoting stability and acting as a sort of keystone in a non-democratic society is, of course, obvious. But he also has, or can have, the function of acting as an escape-valve for dangerous emotions. A French journalist said to me once that the monarchy was one of the things that have saved Britain from Fascism. What he meant was that modern people can’t, apparently, get along without drums, flags and loyalty parades, and that it is better that they should tie their leader-worship onto some figure who has no real power. In a dictatorship the power and the glory belong to the same person. In England the real power belongs to unprepossessing men in bowler hats: the creature who rides in a gilded coach behind soldiers in steel breast-plates is really a waxwork. It is at any rate possible that while this division of function exists a Hitler or a Stalin cannot come to power. On the whole the European countries which have most successfully avoided Fascism have been constitutional monarchies. The conditions seemingly are that the Royal Family shall be long-established and taken for granted, shall understand its own position and shall not produce strong characters with political ambitions. These have been fulfilled in Britain, the Low Countries and Scandinavia, but not in, say, Spain or Rumania. If you point these facts out to the average left-winger he gets very angry, but only because he has not examined the nature of his own feelings towards Stalin.

- George Orwell
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ILoveBigCats Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I live very near the aforementioned city, but I'm away at a different uni right now so I missed their visit. I did see the queen when she came up to York to do some Maundy Thursday affair.
I miss Cambridge, it's a lovely city
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'd actually like to see the Crown take some independent action once in awhile. I understand the constitutional role it has adopted, but with no independent executive in the UK and a toothless upper house in Parliament, there ought to be someone able to put the brakes on governmental stupidity.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's not really politics, as Will and Kate are not political figures.
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Creamstar Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
No different than the US president making a visit in America, really.
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newfoundpower92 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Dare I say it?...
ANARCHY IN THE UK! xD
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Princess-Amy Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
All hail the gracious and almighty mnarchy (may they live forever)
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I don't see the point of their existence, though the argument from economical utility is a good one. I have nothing against most of them personally, the exception being the bat-eared homoeopathy-loving Prince Charles, who can fuck off.

Monarchies as a concept I find I must oppose. I like to describe the American Revolution as a British revolution left half done.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Writer
If I was British, I'd be a bit upset that there's a family who gets paid just to kind of be rich and do rich stuff and attend ceremonies and stuff. They basically just have a license to be incredibly wealthy and are support by the tax dollars of people who work much harder than them.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
In truth, they pay for themselves.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Writer
Because of tourism? People will keep coming to see Britain whether or not the royal family still exists.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
But also because of the Royal Estates. These were formerly the personal property of the sovereign, but all income from them now goes to the Exchequer, and it more than covers the Royal List.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Writer
People will still go there to see the landmarks, don't need to have rich people living there for people to care. How does it change anything if you remove the largest unnecessary expense? The Estates remain the way they are. It's not likely they'll be bulldozed.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I misspoke: it's the Crown Estates. That does not consist of tourist attractions, but productive lands.
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witwitch Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Writer
Will the production of the lands change if the royals are removed of their status? And if so, why?
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No, but their current status is the result of an agreement between the government and the Crown, in return for which the sovereign receives enough money to carry out her official duties. In the event the sovereign was eliminated (and I can't see that happening without resistance) a strong case could be made that the revenues of the Crown Estates should revert to the Royal Family directly. That would be a loss to the government of over 200M GBP annually even once you deduct the present cost of the civil list.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Yes, but some come to see them. There's also a big industry built around the people as well. An industry and culture I'm not particularly fond of, but it makes a lot of money.
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spugmeister Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I'd love to see the back of the monarchy.

The loss of tourism argument doesn't hold water: You get rid of the monarchy but keep the best relics, buildings and history (obviously) and turn them into even more of a tourist destination than they are already, while auctioning off all the remaining artwork, priceless jewellery, land and relics and using the money to build a few hospitals.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I don't care too much for them. If I was starting a new country I wouldn't choose a monarchy but I see no point in going through the hastle of changing the system in the UK. They serve only a ceremonial role and whilst they have a lot of undeserved wealth, so do many people. Contrary to popular opinion, they pay taxes and those taxes are greater than they get from the state.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, that's the royal family? It sounded like the name of an obscure sitcom.

Or maybe it is. :iconrimshotplz:
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witwitch Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Writer
I thought so too!
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Obscure sitcom my arse
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AbCat Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012   Writer
My arse!
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Pretty much the same as `CrimsonMagpie
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I think the royal family as a whole is pretty cool; nothing essential, sometimes annoying, but overall something that I'd rather see existing than being abolished. I would be pissed if a royal visit disrupted classes though. :P
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Badgercheese1994 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student General Artist
Are ya kidding me? Even my favourite class, I'd love to have Royalty disrupt it! My classes now SUCK though.. One is ok, the other is a 7 hour drag!
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
What kind of classes are they? :O
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
I say the monarchy is a bit of a relic, but at least its better than worshiping a poem and a flag.
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Euterpe-The-Egret Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
It is a bit of a relic.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Depends on the poem.
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Our national anthem, set to the tune of a drinking song.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Or even just the line "rebellious Scots to crush" over and over again.
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Why would the people of the USA want to do that?
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
Their historical animosity towards the Scots.
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AbCat Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012   Writer
As we say in England, aren't they ghastly?
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AbCat Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012   Writer
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I saw this and hoped they had a large cooking pot to throw them in.
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