My favorite presidents (I dont know enough about 10 different presidents, so these are the ones I do know about)
Andrew Jackson: The only president to pay off theNational Debt, destroyed the National Bank, fought to democratize federal office holding, suggesting it should be rotational, and was strong beliver in tarriffs.
James K. Polk: The 3rd term of Andrew Jackson really, but he was able to accomplish almost every single thing he set out to do during one single term. He didnt make excuses and just got shit done.
Thomas Jefferson: An iron-clad proponent of invidual freedoms and liberty. Wrote the Declaration of Independance. Cut taxes, cut the budget, and reduced national debt. Opened up the interior though the Louisiana Purchase and the Corps of Discovery.
There hasn't been enough time for me to judge his decisions. Maybe he'll be on my list in 20 years time. He's done a lot of good things, but you can't compare the most powerful man in the world to someone who does nothing.
By the way, it's very easy to pull an economy out of recession. Just spend more money, it's economic theory that has been time-tested for about 300 years, since Adam Smith and Thomas and Malthus. Doing it cheaply is a totally different story.
I like the old school presidents over the modern day politicians.
1. George Washington - It is because of him the United States even exists and I am not talking about what he during the war. Many wanted him to be king but he declined, the states would not accept Federalism if Washington was not going to lead it. He didn't event want to be President but did so out of Patriotic duty. He created the cabinet secretary system, ordered the construction of a new Capital City on the Potomac near his home. Washington was paid $25,000 for his efforts but he returned the money to congress and was the only President to do so.
2. Thomas Jefferson - Was well know before being President for his work in the Revolution including writing the declaration of independence. His Presidency is most know for Louisiana Purchase and Luis and Clark expedition which doubled the side of US territory at a cost of only 5 cents a square mile. He also fought the Barbary pirates established a tax system based on customs imports and tariffs and worked to expand representative democracy. Died of 4th of July 1826.
3. James Madison - Before his Presidency he wrote most of the constitution came up with the grand compromise of creating a house and senate legislature. He stood up for American rights on the high seas which brought America into the war of 1812. The tiny US survived a massive onslaught from the British Empire and was able to negotiate a lasting peace. After the war the US quickly recovered and began an age of optimism called the Era of Good Feelings. He cut taxes and ran a budget surplus from most of his Presidency.
4. John Adams - Before his Presidency he played a crucial role in advocating separation from Britain during the Revolutionary war. During his Presidency he built up the Navy and was famous for saying "millions for defense but not a penny for appeasement." He opened up trade with Europe and elsewhere set the nations first immigration policy much of which is still followed to this day as the naturalization process. It is because of John Adams that America became a nation of immigrants and not just former English colonists. Immigrations allowed for rapid US population expansion. Died on 4th of July 1826.
5. James Monroe - Before his Presidency he played a role getting France to enter the Revolutionary war and served as Ambassador to France for many years. His Presidency is most well known for the Monroe doctrine that expanded US sphere of influence to all of North and South America by supporting independence revolutions on other European colonies in the Americas. Most of these revolutions were successful leading to Europeans retreating from Imperialism on the North and South American continents. Died 4th of July 1831. Many believed this to be divinely inspired death.
6. Andrew Jackson - Before his Presidency he was US General who defeated the British decisively at the Battle of New Orleans in 1815. During his Presidency he is most well know for expanding voting rights to non-land owning citizens and taking on the Banks. His destruction of the Bank of the United States held off banking imperialism in the US for the next 70 years. His final words were "I killed the bank."
7. Abraham Lincoln - Most known for preserving the Union during the civil war and emancipating the slaves. He also created the US green back which was one of the first debt free currencies. It paid for the civil war without going into debt.
8. John F. Kennedy - Last "real" American President who stood up against the military industrial complex. The Vietnam war was expanded the very day he was assassinated. He wanted to revive the Greenback and silver certificates to pay off WWII debt but his plan was canned after he was assassinated. His Moon shot goal was his most long lasting achievement.
9. Teddy Roosevelt - Rough rider and Colonel in the Spanish American war. Created the park system and took on the industrial trusts and robber barons. Probably the last president to not be in the pocket of big business.
10. None - The rest either did nothing worth mentioning or were bad men being crooks and liars. Presidents 1-9 where true statesmen. Today we just have politicians.
Don't feel bad - a lot of US citizens don't know who was and wasn't a president. For instance, many believe Ben Franklin and Alexander Hamilton were POTUS since they appear on our money. Just because money is known as "Dead Presidents" doesn't make it true.
Obama and LBJ definitely. Wasn't so sure on Richard Nixon or Ike, but I had to fill two spaces, and god knows I wasn't throwing Carter in there. Ike helped expand national trade and travel (economically great). Nixon's stint wasn't so bad, it's just overshadowed by Watergate. I'm actually amazed I threw Reagan so high up there considering the high deficits (though it'd be disingenuous to let deficits dictate a Presidency when FDR is first on the list). Reagan's got Iran-Contra under his belt, an affair most Republicans seem to forget ever happened.
As for LBJ, people are mostly on about the Vietnam War. I'm concerned about how he forwarded the Great Society, declared war on poverty, expanded social welfare programs, including the creation Medicare and Medicaid, which provided healthcare options for the most vulnerable of society. I'd even go as far as to say creating these programs saved lives, as now preventable illnesses can be caught ahead of time (which is another reason I favor a single payer system).
I never said Reagan's supply side economics saved the economy. I said Ronald Reagan saved the economy, which is an undeniable fact when one considers the 10% unemployment during his time, and the market uncertainty. Way to build a strawman.
I never said that the Executive had the power to influence unemployment or stock market. To say they have zero is detached from reality when one considers they sign bills into law. That point aside, I don't know what point you're trying to make. Your original statement was that "Reagan's supply side economics saved the economy". I didn't say that. You said that. I said Reagan saved the economy. I look to things such as the Tax Reform Act as evidence of this. However, times have changed, and supply-side economics don't work. I never said they do. You said that. That's building strawmen. Your trolling is ineffective and childish. Don't put words in my mouth and reread what I said.
1 Washington...incredible man, grew his own reefer too 2 Lincoln...shitloads of people died, I mean literally over a million! But he actually created the Union 3 Calvin Coolidge...incredibly smart dude, made American rich as fuck 4 Theo Roosevelt...a true liberal and progressive, not some twenty year old communist tool 5 Jefferson...loved his slaves (literally) but he was pretty smart 6 Monroe...hardcore...created the Monroe doctrine which was cool 7 Grant...for what he did in two wars, not so much as president 8 George Armstrong Custer...ok, he wasn't ever president but he got shot with about a thousand arrows which is kinda cool in a 300 kind of way...and it should count for something 9 Hillary Clinton...she did a good job in the eight years she was in the white house 10 Obama...totally shitty but where he is taking us will soon destroy the entire concept of socialism in this Nation and it will never be able to raise its ugly head again
8. I know you are just trolling with the rest but Custer was not shot with arrows. The Sioux nation was using Winchester repeating rifles while Custer's troops were using single shot Smithfield rifles. He was out classed and out gunned by the Sioux. Reality is Custer got his ass pumped full of lead.
Best Presidents: 1. Thomas Jefferson 2. George Washington 3. Calvin Coolidge 4. Martin Van Buren 5. Warren Harding 6. Ronald Reagan 7. Abraham Lincoln 8. Ulysses S. Grant 9. Grover Cleveland 10. John F. Kennedy
Worst Presidents: 1. Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Barack Obama 3. Woodrow Wilson 4. James Buchanan 5. Jimmy Carter 6. Lyndon B. Johnson 7. William McKinley 8. Andrew Jackson 9. Herbert Hoover 10. Richard Nixon
I don't know about my own top 10, but I'll tackle yours.
I'd personally swap Lincoln and FDR. FDR was there for 16 years and there was still a lot of problems when he left and he put in that chicken brain Harry Truman afterwards.
JFK is way overrated. He completely botched the Bay of Pigs Invasion and secretly removed missiles in Turkey while over praising himself of getting the missiles out of Cuba. If he wasn't assassinated he would have been like Jimmy Carter. One and done.
I agree with Reagan but I'm not sure if I'd put him top 4.
People want to criticize Bush for the Iraq and Terror Wars when LBJ lied about the Gulf of Tonkin that put us in Vietnam that killed 59,000 Americans. He should be ranked last no question.
Bill Clinton was a right time right place President (same with Obama). Facing national crisis, people become chickens with heads cut off and think that voting for the incumbent (in these cases, Democrat party) without even knowing who is who. Clinton really didn't do anything spectacular. He actually did get rid of some Welfare, good for him.
I'm surprised (no...seriously) that you put Teddy Roosevelt behind Obama AND LBJ. Really?
1) Martti Ahtisaari - Nobel Peace Prize winner, brokered peace in Indonesia, Bosnia, Namibia, Kosovo, and spent the best part of his Presidency traveling around Finland meeting and talking with ordinary people.
2) Hipólito Yrigoyen - Brought full democracy, education, employment laws, and prosperity to Argentina, and was known as the 'father of the poor'. Was ousted in a coup in 1930 by a right-wing general sponsored by Exxon.
3) Lula Da Silva - Brought immense prosperity and social welfare to Brazil. All round good egg.
4) Nelson Mandela - Nobel Peace Prize winner, lisper, and co-dismantler of Aparteid.
5) Theodor Heuss - Oversaw the recovery of West Germany from World War 2, and was an all round nice guy.
6) Mary Robinson - Brought about equal treatment for gay people in Ireland, and at one time had an approval rating of 93%.
7) Milan Kučan - Architect of Slovenian independence and post-independence prosperity.
8) Valéry Giscard d'Estaing - Liberalised France, and founded G8.
9) Joaquim Chissano - Fought for the freedom of Mozambique from Portuguese rule, and oversaw recovery from a 15 year civil war.
10) Václav Havel - Dissident against communist rule in Czechoslovakia, and then oversaw the peaceful secession of Slovakia from the Czech Republic.
Oh, I'm sorry did you mean US Presidents. Yeah, well none of them would get in this list anyway.