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How can a President of the United States announce that the government is infiltrated with terrorists

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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
... and spies and no newspaper, television network or other form of media notices?


Seventy hours ago, at this writing, while on Air Force One, President Barack Obama issued a press release that has been utterly ignored by the Western Press.

The president has openly announced a move against violent plotters inside the US government and espionage agents. He does not use the terms “AIPAC” or “the Israel lobby” but it is highly unlikely he could be referring to anything else.

There is, currently, within the US military, the Executive branch of government and among extremist “power brokers” in America an active plot to “alter” America’s form of government through “decapitation.”

Let me be clear. Where the memo, printed in full below, refers to “violent”, it means “assassination” of many top leaders in America including but not limited to the President, Vice President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and others.

The Benghazi attack was planned and financed by this group.

There is no direct evidence tying any foreign government to this plot though most are “fanatically” aligned with the militant Likudists in Israel under Netanyahu’s regime.

Please note that they refer to “violent acts” and speak of both the “government” and “nation.”

By “government,” they are indicting, with no “wiggle room,” assassination plots.

By “nation,” they may well be referring to false flag terrorism that may well include use of weapons of mass destruction. Britain was subject to such a threat during the London Olympics, one that would never have been successfully overcome without the help of journalists who put themselves at great risk.


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Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Media know that dumb masses will go into panic the moment you say "HURR DURR TERRORIST!" and they try to avoid it?
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TortelliniPen Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
"Israel lobby"

hai there psyopjunkie
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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Nukes were not necessary to bring down the towers. Some of the pictures do look eerily similar to this low yield nuclear test in 1962: [link]

Lots of circumstantial evidence but no smoking gun here.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Hi please start a new thread if you want to discuss this issue.

PS. more damning evidence can be read on Scribd here:

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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
hi this belongs in another thread.
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Trorbes Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Sorry, I meant to preface it with "This is why I cannot take you or your source seriously:"
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
When you learn a little about nuclear physics come back, okay?
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Trorbes Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
A little knowledge about nuclear physics tells me a neutron bomb would be wasteful if not useless for demolition. A lot of rational sense tells me it's utterly absurd to believe the government would waste nuclear weapons just to take down a couple towers.
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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
I saw this mentioned on Gonob. Here is the actual memorandum: [link] Sounds like Obama screwed up again.
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JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
which again have nothing to do with anything the OP is taking about.

which of course random and far leaps of logic only make sense for those people like Gordon Duff and the like.

For all the bad shit the government DOES do, misdirection and mis/disinformation like this does more harm than good.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
he didn't screw up. the people who want him dead screwed up.
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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
They say he is protected by divine powers. Got antichrist...
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
if by divine powers you CIA then yes.

If Obama stays in power he will do what he can to take America into a NWO the Zbig way and zionistas will be thrown under the bus for good. Thus voting of Obama appears to be the lessor of two evils? Obama is a plant from a faction in the cia, and he has now gone off the reservation as designed. Israel thought he was their man, this company faction conned them and their neocon sidekicks and now the big switcharoo has occurred. This is the biggest covert op of the last 100 years.

The neocons of course are furious and so angry that they are losing it, becoming highly irrational and their colors are no easily visible for all to see. They have said, start our war with Iran and finish it for us, or we will put Mitttens in and he will do it.

The neocons and zionists will be completely exposed for 911 if they do not back off and stop interfering. At least that is the big rumor inside the highest echelons of the high Us military command. Obama and his top military commanders have decided to say no, continue to say no and stand firm.

This is one of the few times NO has ever been said to israel and first time to neocons. JFK was the first to say no to Israel and it got him murdered. Bibi knows his time is short because he and his boys did most of the 911 dirty work for the neocons, but actually have served as cutouts, allowing a secret rogue faction in the USAF high command to maintain deniability for their stand-down.


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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
The CIA is not what it claims to be. Ever hear of operation paper clip? They are a bunch of NAZIs but the NAZIs didn't start this organization either. If you dig deep enough they have been in almost continuous operation since ancient times always following the people with the most power. Or conversely setting up people so they would become powerful and then controlling them from behind the scenes like Obama is controlled. Obama is ultimately a puppet but he is a protected puppet.

As for the Zionist they were set up to fall since Albert Pike wrote about there purpose in 1873. The end goal is to bring about a Luciferian New World Order not a Zionist order.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
if the nazis are so smart why did germany get invaded? i heard this narrative from zionist shill shrimpton: [link]

It is enlightening to review the standard means whereby our masters combat positive ideas and movements. There is a pattern in such tactics which constructive forces will do well to study. The first tactic is suppression and determined non-recognition of the rebel and his works. The press will unanimously give the well known "silent treatment." Even at this early stage, if the movement gives promise of becoming significant, assassination is considered and carried out if possible. The next tactic is the Smear through libel, distortion, misrepresentation and the sowing of confusion wherever possible.This may be a negative smear with the purpose of destroying the effectiveness of an enemy or a positive smear for the purpose of building a haze around the truth to enable a disintegrative movement to develop. The third tactic is infiltration into the movement and/or the building up of false leadership in order to sabotage the movement at the optimum time, meanwhile diverting patriot energies into harmless or controlled activities. The fourth and final stage is called upon only as a last resort, after the movement or philosophy has become institutionalized and is immune to grosser tactics. This is to "interpret" it so as to bring it as closely as possible into conformity with approved patterns. (Characteristically, the conflicting philosophies of both Jesus Christ and Friedrich Nietzsche have suffered this deadening interpretation.)

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frankly i do not believe nazis since there is fuck all evidence to support it. zionists are visible and clumsy. that's why they were left holding the 911 bag.
take out the zionists and any others will follow.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
if by divine powers you *mean CIA then yes.
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TheRedSnifit Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
It doesn't say that at all:

"This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.
The Minimum Standards provide departments and agencies with the minimum elements necessary to establish effective insider threat programs. These elements include the capability to gather, integrate, and centrally analyze and respond to key threat-related information; monitor employee use of classified networks; provide the workforce with insider threat awareness training; and protect the civil liberties and privacy of all personnel.
The resulting insider threat capabilities will strengthen the protection of classified information across the executive branch and reinforce our defenses against both adversaries and insiders who misuse their access and endanger our national security."


Hyperbole much?
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012

"This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.
The Minimum Standards provide departments and agencies with the minimum elements necessary to establish effective insider threat programs. These elements include the capability to gather, integrate, and centrally analyze and respond to key threat-related information; monitor employee use of classified networks; provide the workforce with insider threat awareness training; and protect the civil liberties and privacy of all personnel.
The resulting insider threat capabilities will strengthen the protection of classified information across the executive branch and reinforce our defenses against both adversaries and insiders who misuse their access and endanger our national security."



If there was terrorist infiltration, what kind of language do you think they would use, and what kind of experience are you drawing on, for example, are you a lawyer who has reviewed a significant number of Presidential Memorandum. I'm not.
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TheRedSnifit Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation,

Potential. As in, it isn't happening now, but it could happen in the future. He's quite clearly saying that the program is there to enable agencies to respond to threats, not that there are any threats currently.

If there was terrorist infiltration, what kind of language do you think they would use, and what kind of experience are you drawing on, for example, are you a lawyer who has reviewed a significant number of Presidential Memorandum. I'm not.

If there were a terrorist infiltration, why the fuck would he announce it publicly?
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
hi you appear to be making two contradictory statements

1. that because they use 'potential' they do not mean 'potential and actual'

2. they would not announce an actual threat
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TheRedSnifit Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Those aren't contradictory in any way. You're saying that they're announcing a current threat, and I'm saying that if there were an actual threat, Obama wouldn't have made this press release.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If only the memorandum actually said that.

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It's talking about mitigation of threats that "may" exist. Violence is the maximal threat being contemplated; it's also about insiders who steal classified information and transmit it to, for instance, Wikileaks. This kind of thing is merely prudent, and while you can't rule out the possibility of some present threat, nothing about this memo implies that there actually is one.

For the rest we're reliant on the word of Gordon Duff, whose pronouncements may be taken with an entire Dead Sea's worth of salt.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
I don't think it will stop wikileaks as wikileaks is mossad's creative writing outlet.

Few remember two years ago when Julian Assange admitted to allowing Israel to “filter” all Wikileaks material. “Filter” is the understatement of all time.

Though Israel and the Mossad didn’t create it all, the inserted enough material in Wikileaks to totally discredit except to those who only stick to the mainstream news or, in recent days, the bloggers Israel keeps on the Mossad payroll.


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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That's as may be, but what I'm about here is that the President did *not* announce that the government is infiltrated with terrorists.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
To some, at a glance, this might actually sound like a response to leaks within the CIA and White House except for some extraordinary language. Please make very special note of the following:

“…to deter, detect and mitigate actions by employees who may present a threat to national security…These threats include…violent acts against the Government and the Nation…”

Please note that they refer to “violent acts” and speak of both the “government” and “nation.”

By “government,” they are indicting, with no “wiggle room,” assassination plots.

By “nation,” they may well be referring to false flag terrorism that may well include use of weapons of mass destruction. Britain was subject to such a threat during the London Olympics, one that would never have been successfully overcome without the help of journalists who put themselves at great risk.


and:

From the US Army:

“ The issue I have is how a presidential press release, an extraordinary and almost “draconian” document has gone without an uproar from congress and wide press coverage.


so he did not *explicitly* announce it is infiltrated with terrorists, but why do you think he would?


Though there has been no official notification of this, I am of the impression that we now consider any mention of Israeli spying to be highly classified. Only Russia and China are officially listed, entirely out of concern not to offend lobbyists whose feelings outweigh real issues of national security.”


However he did indicate America is infiltrated with terrorists by issuing a "draconian document" which refers to "violent acts". Where there is smoke there is fire.

Also:


What we are seeing is a hunt for traitors within the American government and military, some of which is working its way onto the news.


and then relate that to recent news, such as Petraeus scandal.

Sources at the highest levels have indicated that General Petraeus was to be offered the “presidency” after an iconic act of terrorism would cost the lives of top American leaders including but not limited to the President and Vice President.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to believe General Petraeus knew anything of this and were he to have been aware, would have moved to block such an effort.


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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
As I said, I'm taking this memo at face value without the editorial fearmongering, and there's nothing "draconian" about it. It seems a perfectly reasonable response when there have been significant releases of classified information by insiders, and it's only prudent to consider other potential insider threats.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
"I'm taking this memo at face value"

What happens if you take "Water boarding" at face value? It sounds like surfing ...

Check out some bush era memorandums:

"The memos are shocking in their calculated brutality and in their likely violation of categorical legal prohibitions against torture. They are, as President Obama stated, evidence of a “dark and painful chapter in our history” involving practices that should “never take place again.” "

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With links to them:

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I didn't download or read any of them (i took them at face value) and they seemed fine. Why were people fear mongering about torture ...

so yeah, if you editorialize yourself that everything is fine and dandy then the document won't seem draconian at all.

"It seems a perfectly reasonable response when there have been significant releases of classified information by insiders"

Why didn't he issue it after wikileaks first started then?
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Now you're going off the deep end. If you know what "water boarding" means in context, then you know exactly what it is. As I know what all the words in this memo mean in context, I can figure it out all by my lonesome without someone freaking out.

Who said anything about fine and dandy? The sort of breaches they're addressing here are very serious matters. Why didn't they do anything sooner? I don't know that they haven't. I'm looking at THIS memo because you've brought my attention to it. I have no idea what's gone on before, or how long the sort of programs being outlined were in development. Nothing happens overnight in government.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
"Now you're going off the deep end."

pun intended?

Since we can't agree on the context of this memo I think this argument will only be settled in the future if publicly traitors get disposed of. Agree to disagree?
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Dezenerate Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
As if Obama would tell america during christmas cheer that there's christmas fear in the government, gracious no!

No! No no! No.

No.
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cartoon-bomb Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Here's the official link:

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Here's the official text:

Presidential Memorandum -- National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs

MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES

SUBJECT: National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs

This Presidential Memorandum transmits the National Insider Threat Policy and Minimum Standards for Executive Branch Insider Threat Programs (Minimum Standards) to provide direction and guidance to promote the development of effective insider threat programs within departments and agencies to deter, detect, and mitigate actions by employees who may represent a threat to national security. These threats encompass potential espionage, violent acts against the Government or the Nation, and unauthorized disclosure of classified information, including the vast amounts of classified data available on interconnected United States Government computer networks and systems.

The Minimum Standards provide departments and agencies with the minimum elements necessary to establish effective insider threat programs. These elements include the capability to gather, integrate, and centrally analyze and respond to key threat-related information; monitor employee use of classified networks; provide the workforce with insider threat awareness training; and protect the civil liberties and privacy of all personnel.

The resulting insider threat capabilities will strengthen the protection of classified information across the executive branch and reinforce our defenses against both adversaries and insiders who misuse their access and endanger our national security.

BARACK OBAMA


The Likudists are on Santa's naughty list.
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