I actually don't see what's the big deal. It can't tell what you're doing, just at best tell the location (I wouldn't be surprised if they could only tell which reader you're closest to, not even in which direction or how far away). They're children at school where they should be at specific places anyway (or going to somewhere else with explicit permission by their teacher). Odds are they won't even bother checking to see who's where unless something serious that they need to investigate happens. Camera surveillance is a lot worse than this, and it's pretty common yet few people have a problem with that (and even less care enough to protest or sue them for having cameras).
That said, I do think that it's a waste of time and money, and RFID tags aren't secure enough when it comes to any form of personal identification.
In order to not only get an idea, but an exact number, of how many students attend classes the teachers at my school have come up with this ingenious method of checking all attending students on a piece of paper, but I guess tracking devices works too.
He is correct you are not very smart. The main reason this stuff should be opposed is because the average person commits 3 felonies a day. [link]
If the government had absolute knowledge of everything you ever did then chances are they could throw you in jail for the rest of your life on something or another. Understand that there is no such thing as an innocent person in the eyes of the government.
While I don't live in the US I think that's an interesting book regardless. Nobody ever learned anything from a one lined insult though, do you presume that I'm so closed-minded that I've no interest in any points someone else makes, on the contrary it's why I like to discuss these things
If you are open to changing your views then you are smarter than the one lined insult. I always provide some type of link or evidence for what I say just in case one is open minded. Consider these surveillance laws carefully with that book in mind. I will also add in this quote from Ayn Rand:
"Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
Also back to the thing about being violated against their will but off-topic, what's your stance on circumcision? I'm just curious since that's a fairly common practice I disagree with in which choice is also removed at birth, yet so many people are okay with it.
Because this is a tool that can be very easily misused by corrupt governments.
Let's pretend the current government is "good", and they start the whole chip thing. Well, in 50 or 100 years, they'll probably still be keeping track of people somehow, but there's no telling whether the government will still be "good" or not. They could use this type of technology to locate and kill off anyone who wants to protest the new dictatorship or whatever.
Basically, this type of system is ripe for abuse. People have a right to privacy and a right to their own bodies. The government tagging us would be like the government owning us. We own the government. The government doesn't own us. That's a very important principle.
Sure, it could help locate a missing child, but it also poses terrible threats to our rights and freedoms.
I'm just about fed up with the amount of bs that's coming out of our government. I'm not normally for threats since I like to see myself as a passive individual, but if I ever have a kid and if anyone tries to pull that crap on them, you'll have to call in the army in order to stop me. People we as a society need to better stand up to these tyrants, these traitors of the Constitution, hell we actually have an obligation to help make this country a better place to live, but barely anyone seems to care anymore. Well if martial law comes into effect, I know who's eyes will be greeted by a fist to the face and that's basically anyone that I feel to be a threat to me or my family.
Agreed. People tend to believe that they "cant beat the system" and don't even try. This school's program violates Federal as well as Texan law, so there's logically very little chance that they can win.
Even if they still I'm still gonna oppose it, something that would have happened where SOPA/PIPA actually managed to pass. If I have to be taking down by extreme military force for not cooperating with these totalitarian laws and expecting to live my life, sacrificing my individual and free in the progress, then as Dale from the Walking Dead would put it, I don't want to live in that world.
Evil only exists because good people do nothing to oppose it. If everyone was awake as you to the world would be a much better place to live. School administrators would be afraid of for their lives to even think about tagging peoples children.
Exactly. They're much more reliable too. It's one thing to verify if someone shows up for class and quite another to track them. Technology-wise, the tracking device idea seems borrowed from the way shops tag their merchandise to prevent theft. (I've seen devices like the one pictured in the article on music CD's).
Nobody should have to be forced to be tagged like cattle. Folks if this ever passes, DO NOT submit, under any circumstances to their will. They cannot arrest or shoot all of us without negative consequences. Our government was originally meant to be for the people, not against it. Look at where we're at now?
That's a really scary violation of privacy. Expelling students for not participating? Hell no. The people who should be removed from their position in the school are the ones who thought "I liked 1984. We should have something like that here".
It is another completely absurd law. If the courts had any sense it would be tossed out on common law grounds. Common law states that if there is no injured party than no law regardless of jurisdiction can be prosecuted. This goes back to the Magna Carta of 1215 and was put in place so Kings, Nobles, and Sheriffs could not oppress the peasants for frivolous reasons.
Hopefully the parents wake up and realize homeschooling is better in the long run anyway.
Home schooling really is only successful when the parents are highly educated. I don't know why people think that it's the be all and end all. I know adults who are unable to spell simple words like 'tomorrow' or 'maybe'. How, exactly, could they teach a child, when they don't even have a grasp upon spelling? (let alone things like childhood ecology and educational psychology? )
Homeschooling is good, but it's not this amazing thing everyone makes it out to be ...