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Since the ceasefire - 12 rockets were fired into Israel

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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
About three hours ago it was announced by Hillary Clinton, a cease-fire between Israel and terrorist organization hamas.

The agreement stipulates that Israel would not Attack Gaza unless Hamas firing rockets.
Since the ceasefire(21:00 israel time, now it's 23:50), Hamas fired 12 rockets at Israeli cities. While Israel does not respond, as she honors the agreement.

Who is the aggressor?
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is no question who the aggressor. Hamas said to Israel, "We love death more than you love life." Israel fights to protect its people. Hamas fights for the annihilation of the Jews.
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*who the aggressor is*
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FrozenPanther Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Isreal is the aggressor!
They do not deserve Gaza's land!

They wanted their own home country so they started war to get their own land
which is NOT RIGHT!
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, yep. Israel, who relies on legitimate military force to protect its people, is the aggressor against the Palestinians, who rely on the terrorist organization Hamas which uses its own civilians as human shields. Israel, who honors the ceasefire, is the aggressor against the Palestinians, who openly breach the agreement. Israel, whose Defense Forces alert Palestinian civilians before a strike by dropping leaflets and making calls, is the aggressor against the Palestinians, who specifically target population centers in Israel to cause as many civilian casualties as possible. Hamas, who is a self-proclaimed lover of death (to Israel: "We love death more than you love life") is definitely the victim here. And by the way, you have your history completely wrong. Shocker.

After the Holocaust and WWII, most world leaders agreed that the Jewish people needed a place to call their own so that they could defend themselves from radical anti-Semites like Hitler. "Palestine," as the region had been referred to since the time of the Romans (who chose that name to replace the Hebrew name "Judah" as a way to deny the historic link of the Jews to the land of Israel), had been a protectorate of the British, but when the UN passed the Partition Plan of 1947 and the British withdrew, neither side was content. The Jewish leaders knew that the tiny sliver of land granted to them was completely indefensible. The Arab leaders didn't want their to be a Jewish state at all. Additionally, both sides wanted control of Jerusalem, which is considered a holy site by both the Jewish and the Muslim religion.

So what happened? A civil war broke out between the Arab and Jewish communities--both of which had existed prior to the Partition Plan. After the civil war had gone on for about a year, with some extremists and some truly good people on both sides, the Jewish forces were gaining ground and David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel. Neighboring Arab nations, including Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia, decided that they would not tolerate the existence of a Jewish state in the Middle East, and they declared war on the fledgling state (ironically conceding to its legitimacy in the process). The real war was started by the Arabs, not the Israelis. Thankfully, Israel was victorious and after gaining land all the way down into the Sinai peninsula, Israel turned over much of its conquered territory in the interest of preserving peace, and the only free state in the Middle East was preserved.

They didn't have to give back the land that they conquered, but they did. Why? Because Israel is not imperialist. Israel is not anti-Arab. Israel is not interested in war. The one goal of the State of Israel is to provide a safe haven for the Jewish people, who have been hated and persecuted basically since the beginning of history. While Hamas "celebrated" the ceasefire by firing guns into the air and rioting in the streets of Gaza, the Israeli Defense Forces celebrated by praying to God for lasting peace. "עוֹשֶׂה שָׁלוֹם בִּמְרוֹמָיו, הוּא יַעֲשֶׂה שָׁלוֹם עַלֵינוּ, וְעַל כָּל יִשְׂרָאֵל וְאִמְרוּ אָמֵן"--"He who makes peace in His heights, may He make peace upon us and upon all Israel; and say, Amen."

But when you hear Hamas pray for peace instead of for the destruction of the Jews, let me know, and I'll rethink my position. For now, I stand forever with Israel.
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FrozenPanther Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I respect your opinion, and I dont know the history by heart but thank you for taking the time to write it all out for me (:
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You're welcome, and I have to apologize for sounding somewhat sarcastic at the beginning. This was obviously before we started talking on that other thread and I realized what a reasonable and decent person you seem to be.
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FrozenPanther Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Oh it's fine^^; I'm like that too, so no need to apologize. I think you're pretty rational and intelligent, so I'm going to watch you :)
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. :D
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Pocky-Japan-Ai-epic Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My dad told me what was really happening.
So apparently Hamas was hiding weapons were
people, freakin civilians live! Who the flip hides weapons where there are people? Simple: people who want to blame Israel for everything...
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and punk--rocker basically said it. They do use their own civilians as shields. Its not Israels fault really if Hamas would just stop them maybe Israel wouldn't fire rockets back...
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
oh that it were so clear cut and simple. Those 'freaking civilians' were themselves victims (or children of victims) of the Israeli acts of the previous 3 decades.

Gaza is a thin strip of land 25 miles long and 4 - 7.5 miles wide and it contains upward of 1,500,000 people. About 2/3 of the people are refugees or descendants of refugees who were driven out of other parts of Palestine by Israel when the state was established in 1948.

In the 1967 'six day war', Israel occupied Gaza and in 1971 Ariel Sharon set out to 'pacify' Gaza by bulldozing houses, uprooting refugees and setting up 21 illegal settlements in Gaza.

In 1987 there was an uprising as a response to the Israeli occupiers and the illegal sttlements and in 1993 the Oslo accords granted limited autonomy.

In 2000 Ariel Sharon and a bunch of Likud politicians made a very provocative visit, surrounded by riot police and soldiers, to the Haram al-sharif, the site of the gold Dome of the Rock, the third holiest shrine in Islam. This triggered the second uprising.

In 2001 Israel destroyed the Gaza airport and docks.

In 2005 Israel evacuates the illegal settlements (in preperation for expansion of illegal settlements on the West Bank). The Israel military withdraws but keeps control of Gaza airspace, territorial waters and borders.

In 2006, Hamas won the Palestinian Legislative elections, The Israel government, the United States and the EU did not recognise the election results and the result was sanctions and closures of border crossings. The resulting shortages are declared to be 'collective punishment' by many International Human Rights organisations, who claim that such punishment of a civilian population is outlawed under the Geneva Convention.

In 2006, Israel launches 'Operation Summer Rain' bombarding civilian infrastructure like water and electricity plants, schools, hospitals, government buildings. This type of behaviour carries on still, with government buildings and law enforcement targetted regularly.

In 2006 Hamas makes it clear they are seeking a long-term truce if Israel ends it's illegal occupation of Palestinian territories. The Hamas Prime Minister makes it clear that they will accept a 2-state solution. The peace proposals are ignored by the USA, EU, Russia and the UN.

The Palestinians in Gaza were not free to decide where they could work, or travel, who they could trade with and nor how their taxes were spent. When Israel left the Gaza Strip in 2005, 65% of Gazans lived below the poverty line and there was 35% unemployment.

At the end of 2008, Israel began a bombing campaign on the Strip which left some 1,400 people dead, including over 300 children.

The main routes into and out of the Gaza Strip have been blockaded for decades and Israel finally added the finishing touches to it's Gazan ghetto by building a 'seperation barrier' along the entire land border. Unable to move people or goods through the destroyed airport and the blockaded sea port, the Gazans were left with only siz land crossing points that Israel has arbitarily closed for long periods of time, isolating the Palestinian people, crippling the economy and punishing the Gazan people.

Fishermen cannot fish, the Israeli blockade restricted access to the ocean. Initially it was allowed within 20 nautical miles of the coast. That has reduced over the years to 3 nautical miles. If the fishermen sail further, they are fired upon, boarded or rammed by the Israeli navy. It is believed that this control of fisheries is due to the discovery of a rich gas deposit discovered 25 - 30 kilometres off the Gazan coast.

Fuel imports are totally blocked. The only fuel that has come in has needed to come covertly through tunnels from Egypt. Gaza's only power plant relies on fuel for it's operation so electricity is limited.

As a result of the blockade, 70% of Gazan families live on less than $1 per person per day according to the UN. This is a report from International Aid Organisations - [link] which details the impact of the blockade.

It is a very terrible situation and for Israel to claim no responsibility for the humanitarian crisis they have engendered and for the hatred Gazan's have for them is disingenuous to say the least.
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Pocky-Japan-Ai-epic Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know that they are very poor. I don't understand why people would store weapons near civilians. It doesn't make sense.
I had no idea half this stuff happened, thank you for this information.
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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
I've never seen so many half - truths.
real piece of art.
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FrozenPanther Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm not so sure about that..
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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
israel was own the "gaza land". In 2005, she stepped out from there to promote peace. the Palestinians have to do said decide if they want peace, or war. From 2005 more than 10,000 rockets were fired at Israeli citizens...
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Israel did not own Gaza. It was occupied during the 1967 war. Annexation of territory does not make it legal ownership.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Edward De Bono offered a solution for this Palestine Israel 'you bomb me, I'll bomb you' mess.

"Deduct $50 million from the aid given to the Palestinians for each rocket fired into Israel. The same concept would be applied to Israel. Now you are no longer a hero to your people by firing a rocket, which in any case is symbolic, since you've just cost them a hospital or a school. You have to give them something to lose,"

He suggested a yeast supplement. His thinking - yeast contains zinc. Unleavened bread does not contain yeast. A low-zinc diet leads to irritability and aggression.

He also suggested letting each side vote in the others elections "Let Israelis vote in Palestinian elections and let Palestinians vote in Israeli elections. That way, only constructive people would get elected. Extremists on both sides wouldn’t stand a chance."
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
interesting opinion in blog commentary - [link]
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
One day I think is was 1997, we were around beth lehem and we couldn't go because it was too dangerous, why? even Arab Christians have tough time in there, and not because of the Jewish.
Most of the cities I lived where Arab and Israeli mixed like Haifa and maalot tarshiha, Many times I talked to Arabs and worked with them... most Arabs they don't like to mix, like and Arab druze won't married an Arab Muslim... or Arab Christians, it seems in very bad eyes, but anyway we all lived together in there just fine, Where I lived most of the people went to the arab supermarkets, and I also Remember that some Arabs were killed in the second war with Lebanon.
I lived in Tel Aviv and in the center of Israel for some time, and most people there didn't feel the threat of war, so their thoughts were just like yours naive and most of them where in the side of Palestine, I don't think they are like that anymore, since Tel Aviv got hit too, didn't they hit Jerusalem too? half of the people around Jerusalem are Arabs.
Yes their bombs don't do much damage but that's not an excuse, even so they try... and people live in fear for years, the south of Israel is scary, I've been there a few times, I really don't wish anybody to feel how is to live there, even if Gazans don't always hit the target there is always a chance and that's scary enough.

Gazans are selfish and that's what they are, it could end long ago, if they don't do that for the Israeli "Jewish" at least do that for the rest of the Arab population living in Israel, that wants to stop feeling guilty about them and live in peace.

My bottom line is That Palestinians could end their suffer if is what they wanted to, I feel sorry for those children that get drugged into this, I mean Those children eventually won't care where they live as long as they live in peace, and the parents are just are too blind to see it, a peace of land if more important than their life and they could live as Palestinians or Arab Muslim peacefully just like other Arabs do in Israel.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
here, I'll save you the trouble of going externally to read my link. I will do as you do and slam you with a 'wall of text'
THERE are moments when the dispute between Israelis and Palestinians appears so intractable that it is tempting to call back Edward de Bono.

The lateral thinker suggested to the British Foreign Office in 1999 that the solution was obvious. Marmite. Unleavened bread contains no yeast, which means it provides no zinc, the absence of which tends to make men more belligerent. Marmite is rich in zinc and, well, you can see the historic enmity just dissolving, can't you?

The history of this conflict is an invitation to pessimism. It is hard to hear an official representative of either side without thinking better of his opponent. Images of child deaths are accompanied by a grown-up version of the playground game of "you started it; no, you started it", stretching all the way back to the Bible. There is no viable military victory to be won: until there are two negotiating parties genuinely committed to living together, the process is condemned to the depressing repetition of bomb, ceasefire, rocket-fire, war - even though the people on either side crave peace, It can seem hopeless, but in fact a counsel of despair, as well as being useless, is not appropriate. The seeds of change are visible in Gaza and the West Bank. Gradually, slowly, uncertainly, but surely the fortunes of Palestine will be changed by prosperity. The region, of course, is beset by recriminations about identity and status and no economic determinist can wish those arguments away.

Tony Blair, special envoy for the Quartet of the UN, the US, the EU and Russia, is proving quietly to be part of the solution. The latest report on the work of the Office of the Quartet Representative is full of unglamorous progress that could, in time, transform the region.

The Blair team has been more successful in moving Israel than is commonly known. Something as simple as the installation of a cargo scanner at the Allenby crossing (over the Jordan into the West Bank) could increase trade volumes by 30 per cent and reduce shipping costs by the same amount. Israeli approval was recently secured for international investment in education, health and housing and, in February 2011, permits were issued for the construction of 21 schools and health clinics.

Infrastructure is getting better. The road out of Jericho into the Jordan Valley had been blocked for a decade. Now it is open. A big investment has diverted sewage from the dangerous Beit Lahia lake, which a few years ago flooded and caused the deaths of several Palestinians. The OQR has brought in $US44 million ($42m) from the European Investment Bank to upgrade the electrical transmission network in the West Bank. The next priority is a large desalination plant in the Gaza Strip which would provide Gaza with potable water. Less than 10 per cent of the water meets World Health Organisation guidelines. Work is also under way on a Palestinian gas field in the Mediterranean Sea.

The really potent accusation against Israel has nothing to do with retaliation - why should they put up with constant rocket fire? - nor that its response is disproportionate. It is that it does far too little to help the Palestinians to grow.

It is, of course, a lot to ask that Israel should provide economic succour to those whose leaders are firing rockets at its citizens, but it would be a clever strategy all the same. Israel's part in a revised peace process should include doing as much as it can to help Gaza and the West Bank towards sustainable growth.

It is obvious that the blockade of Gaza is, in this respect as in most others, counter-productive. The blockade was imposed to stop weapons reaching the hands of militants. Clearly it is not working. The upshot of the blockade is that weapons get through and moral calumny is heaped upon Israel for the appalling state of Gaza. One third of the population lives below the poverty line. The economy is slowing, finance from donors is drying up, unemployment is running at 34 per cent and a fiscal crisis threatens to scupper whatever chance of peace remains.

The first act of the new government after the Israeli election in January ought to be to mitigate the liquidity crisis in the Palestinian National Authority by seeking new donors. Money is coming into the region: $US450m from the Abu Dhabi Development Fund in 2009, $US50m from the Kuwaiti government in 2011 and the Qataris recently made a pledge - but not enough to avoid an austerity drive that is exactly what is not needed. But the worst aspect of Israeli economic policy is that, by closing down Gaza's exports to Israel and the West Bank, the blockade is destroying the emerging independent business class. This is, over time, a tragedy.

In his excellent recent book Forces of Fortune, Middle East scholar Vali Nasr argues the great battle for the soul of the region will not be fought over religion but over business and capitalism. He describes an upwardly mobile middle class of entrepreneurs and investors who have no interest in compromising their prosperity with ideological extremism.

If the economy fails, the sensible elements in Palestinian politics - Mahmoud Abbas and Salam Fayad, respectively the President and the Prime Minister of the PNA - are weakened. There is a danger that an opportunity is slipping by unnoticed. Economic progress could be the midwife of political progress.

But as well as being an identity question, this is also a knife-and-fork question. The Egyptian revolution was a howl of anguish about unemployment. The Tunisian revolution started with the complaint of a fruit-seller about food prices. The protests in Jordan are, at root, economic.

It would simplify too much to say that if prosperity is achieved then peace must come in its wake; but in the history of bad ideas it has to be better than Marmite. And I love Marmite.

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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
so why are you telling me this on this post?
Are you responding to something that was written in that blog article?
Did you read the blog article?

Are you just posting random propanganda on anything I say?
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Things are much more simple than that article, they just should live in peace and problem solved.
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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
How most of the world views the Israel / Gaza conflict: [link]

There is a reason Israel was put under pressure to stop the invasion. The old lies of Israel being the victim don't work anymore.
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meanus Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Iran is the aggressor...the palestinians are just tools
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Iran is just a puppet of China.
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meanus Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
china is just a puppet of the USA
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
The USA is just a puppet of idiots.
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meanus Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
if only we were more like the Soviet Union or Somalia!
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
If only....
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meanus Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
yes, and all the whiners would be starved to death, shipped off to some gulag, or simply disappear
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You'd enjoy living in a gulag? :noes:
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angelxxuan Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student General Artist
maybe those were the ones who didn't the memo? but there will always be a few more firing for good measure to get their point across, whatever that might have been.
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DutchConnaisseur Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
That's a nice biblical number.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think its time to have a sticky thread for Israel like we did for Kony 2012, with all other threads on the subjecvt locked to stop the proliferation of duplicate posts on Israel.

how do you know it was Hamas rockets and not some splinter group? You don't is what I am guessing, unless Hamas has actually acknowledged that they are responsible.

The situation with Hamas is very unstable and no Israeli should be surprised by that. It's what happens when one keeps on killing the leaders of an organisation to remove effective control. That means that, when control is required, such as when they declare a truce, there is nobody who has enough experience to exercise it totally and thouroughly. Reap what is sown.
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defense2 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
You want to be the governing body? That comes with responsibility to govern, to be accountable for the people under your charge.

Think of it like this. If a Texan fired rockets into Mexico, and the US government doesnt stop this man by any means necessary. Should Mexico not have the grounds to send its military into Texas and kill the persons launching the rockets?

I couldn't blame Mexico, I would however blame both Texas and the us government.

You can say that the US has the resources to police Texas and this isn't a fair comparroson... But if Hama preached peace, and used their terrorist forces to police the terrorist who disobeyed Hamas... Then this would make the Hamas the government of gaza and now the gazans have their own country.
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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
something I forgot to mention: Hamas undertook to stop any other terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip. he is the sovereignty in Gaza and he is responsible for actions there.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
yes, and Israel keeps assassinating Hamas leaders - go figure why control cannot be exercised with any totality.
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defense2 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
That is because Hamas has chosen to support terrorist actions against Isreal.

Just because you choose to wear two faces, doesn't mean you are obsolved from past actions.

Hamas must prove it wants peace with action, this means that it MUST avenge the rocket attacks on Isreal by those within gaza and must stop all Hamas lead attacks against Isreal.

This doesn't mean Monday Hamas attacks Isreal and in wensday the two nations are friends. It means that Hamas leaders who were the terrorist must remove themselves from power and hand the reigns to their underlings whom they should have been training to act in peace with Isreal, not fighting a war with Isreal.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
it still doesn't change the fact that you cannot maintain effective control if the people trying to exercise it are regularly assassinated by Israel.
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defense2 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Then the people who chose a early life of violence and terrorism should surrender to Isreal and make room for the moderates that they should have trained.

If there is no moderates, tough luck Palestine. The bull dozers should be sent, trucks loaded with the people and dropped off in Egypt.

Problem solved. They chose not to have peace, those who survived the occupation of gaza are sent to a nation who is sympathetic to their plight.

Isreals military is mighty enough that the egyptian soldiers won't challenge the drop off points and if the slegyptian soldier becomes foolish and desires death... The Isreali would likely be all the accommodating.
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CouchyCreature Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
twaddle.
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ZCochrane Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student Photographer
The one shooting the rockets is the aggressor, obviously. But that's not what matters. What matters is: Do these twelve rockets allow Israel to start the war again? In a purely legal sense, sure. But that's not a practical attitude.

Israel is a modern state with a well-organized army of people who listen to orders. If they tell their people to stop firing, they will. But this is not true of Hamas, which is mostly a bunch of extremists and nepotism. If someone there has a supply of rockets and thinks it's still a good idea to fire them, then Hamas is not actually able to stop them (and not all parts of it may be willing to do so).

Israel cannot reasonably expect Hamas to act like a modern, responsible state. I think we all agree that the world would be better if Hamas did act like that, but that's not the reality. So if Israel decides that this is enough to restart the military campaign, then there won't be peace at all, unless Gaza is destroyed completely.

I think the best outcome for Israel is a government in Gaza that does not want to destroy Israel, and that is able to stop those of citizens who do. Israel won't get there if it treats every single rocket as an offensive act by all of Gaza.
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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
something I forgot to mention: Hamas undertook to stop any other terrorist organization in the Gaza Strip. he is the sovereignty in Gaza and he is responsible for actions there.
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Novuso Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
Israel will always be the aggressor until they end their apartheid racist state by either accepting the Palestinians as equal citizens or giving them their own state. Israel is willing to do neither so they deserve every rocket they get.
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punker--rocker Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Clearly you don't know what the word "apartheid" means. Apartheid was institutionalized racism supported by the government of South Africa. Blacks were prohibited from participating in government, and segregation was everywhere. The situation in Israel is completely different.

I suggest you visit some time. Palestinians have the same jobs, serve in the military (as volunteers--they are not conscripted), serve in the government, and even play on Israeli sports teams. There is no segregation, and Israeli Arabs have the right to vote, own property, etc., just like every Israeli Jew does.

The only Middle Eastern countries to which the term "apartheid" could possibly apply would be Arab nations with significant Palestinian populations, such as Syria or Jordan, where Palestinians live in ghettos, have no access to education or healthcare, and in some cases, are not even given citizenship. In Lebanon, Palestinians are not even allowed to own property. Where is the condemnation of these Arab governments?

One final point: Israeli Arabs--and I mean those that live in Israel proper under the democratic government, not in Gaza which is governed by the iron fist of the PLO and Hamas--say outright that they would prefer to live in Israel than in any other Arab country. And with the terrible conditions that Palestinians are subject to in Arab countries and not in Israel this isn't in the least bit surprising.
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fulup Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
LOL

so now the Israeli authorities in the West Bank that began in 1967 is the reason that an Arab country has sent troops on the other hand kill/deport the Jews in israel in 1948? This is the reason that the Fedayeen was sent by the arab countries in the 50th to murdered tens and hundreds of innocent Israeli civilians?
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
[link] I put this link because it explains very well why Israel is not an apartheid state. Palestinians or Arab Muslims (whatever they want to call themselves) have full citizenship with full rights like any other Israeli or any other ethnic that has citizenship in Israel.
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RandomXeno Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Without links, your ''facts'' are nothing more than an opinion, OP; learn to research sources next time =P
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
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RandomXeno Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That what the OP should have done in the first place, which make my point still valid; if he/she doesn't make the effort to put the links after stating something, then why should people care about that person said?
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Vel-drawings Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Fair enough ^^
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