anything the government gets involved in will be totally and completely fucked up to the max...witness our bizarro health care system. Lyndon Johnson and his pals started dumping money in it and now its the most fucked up, hurtful thing in the universe
Replace taxes with a swarm of individualized public service billing accounts. (e.g. a monthly bill for road use, national defense, police, fire brigade, parks & recreation, libraries & museums, schools, environmental & health regulations, etc.) Make these accounts look more convincing by calculating charges based on per-use pricing. (e.g. per mile, per gallon of gas, per pound of metal, per hour, etc.) Afterward, let anti-tax complainers sort out their monthly bills on their own.
It always amazes me how conservatives keep saying that government should be run more like a business (or run by the businesses), yet how many successful businesses do you know that give people services and let those people pay for them only if they feel like it? Yet that's pretty much what right-wingers say the government should do.
Actually, when I feel like clogging my inbox up with more crap from people again, I should make a post showing how the country would actually be run if it was run like a successful business. (Basically, the right-wingers would hate it a lot more than the left-wingers would.)
If you have followed my train of thinking, you would probably notice that it leads to accounting nightmare.
Let-s take roads: Should we partition them into an array of private properties, then impose toll charges accordingly? If so, we need to set up a system to account for each road users. Furthermore, different road segments belong to different owners, each sending out their own billing statements. Hmmm ... more jobs for collection agencies (well ... delinquent payments must be dealt with!). Adding additional layers of administrative overhead!
please excuse my rant being hitched to your wagon... That maddmatt, he is such a kidder. Taxes are paying for some kind of product or service [link] ...hah.
Taxes pay for the infrastructure and services that a government feels they have an obligation and mandate to provide to the whole of the society they govern.
Does he whine about roads if he doesn't drive? Does he complain about the postal service if he doesn't get or send any mail? Does he whine about the FAA if he doesn't fly? Does he complain about the costs of the military if they aren't fighting a battle he has a personal interest in? Does he object to taxes being used by the governmment to aid those struck by natural disasters because they didn't happen to him personally? If he does (as is likely) he is just a selfish prick who doesn't deserve to be a member of any society.
Either everybody gets health coverage of some kind, or make it so that only those that can afford it will get treatment and those who cant afford it will wither and die. Either way Im sick of this discussion.
They want social services to run like here, in Europe. That's not necessarily bad. What is bad is that they don't wanna now we pay for that social services. They live in their fantasy world and don't want to meet the real one.
Honestly, I'm not surprised. Most of liberals graduated some shitty majors like gender studies, culture science, English literature or psychology and they catch some warm job in governmental sector or non-profit organisations. They know shit about the economy and how business work.
I think they do. Weren't that you guys, who were accusing gov. Romney for being a rich businessman for the last two years? Barack Obama, on the other hand, have almost never experience real work in private sector.
For the last year gov. Romney was being attacked by the liberals for being a successful and rich businessman. He had been attacked for expecting the others to do the same thing. President Obama, on the other hand, spend all his life in public sector, with an exception of two-year long low level job in some law firm and had been praised for promising stupid people that they have rights to demand money from the others (those, who work hard in private sector). Considering that, it is fair to assume that most of the liberals know nothing about real work in real business while most of the conservatives know at least more about how the economy goes.
"Making other people to pay for your insurance is far away from 'free'."
This argument is the dumbest thing. Seriously. You're okay with paying for other people's education, safety, well-being, roads, and a number of other things but as far as saving someone's life go, that's crossing the line.
Not really. Every American pays taxes (at least every American is supposed to), and that taxes include paying for education, safety, roads and so on. Of course, rich people pay more in nominal numbers but the percentage in income is the same or similar. For instance, in Poland approximately 15% of taxes paid goes for education and no matter if you earn $1,000,000 a year of $10,000 a year, 15% of your taxes goes to education.
When it comes to health care, things work different. Under Obamacare, rich and middle class people have to buy insurance for themselves and (as employers) for the poor too, which is unfair in my humble opinion. Again, in Poland 8.4% of each person's income goes to health care, no matter how much each person earn. In the US under ACA, on the other hand, middle and upper class have to buy insurances while lower class have insurance provided by the government and the others.