Union Wins Victory by Killing Twinkies and 18,500 Jobs


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Hostess, an already struggling company who had just settled with one striking Union could not handle the second strike of a second union holding them hostage.

Some workers had crossed the picket lines while the union threatened heavy fines to poor workers if they tried to go back earning a living. This stoppage of production put a dagger in the heart Hostess.

So because of the union strategy, at a place that did not have any unsafe workplace issues, instead of workers have a small cut in pay to keep the company afloat, everyone lost all their pay. Instead of taking a little less and having the time on your own to seek other employment or something you liked better, you are now jobless along with thousands of others who will be competing for the same very few jobs.

So is a victory of a striking union worth the death of a beloved company and thousands of jobs?
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Agburanar's avatar
Sorry, Madmatt - Hostess' failure was one of leadership. The company would not be in a position of such weakness if not for years of mismanagement and executive profligacy.

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This is pretty cut-and-dried. The union's seeming intransigence was simply a predictable reaction to repeated provocation by the Hostess execs.
maddmatt's avatar
Maybe, maybe not. The issue on the table is a union decision to halt production effectively killing the jobs of the people they represent with threat of fines if they did not strike.
mosobot64's avatar
The issues here are much more complex than that and go back several years of mismanagement by the upper staff that led to the striking in the first place. They filed their first bankruptcy in 2004, long before any striking took place: [link]

Anyway, good riddance anyway. Their employment policies were lousy, their Wonderbread honestly sucked and they're not the only ones capable of making Twinkie-like cakes anyway.
maddmatt's avatar
Yeah screw the thousands that are paying for this union peeing contest.
mosobot64's avatar
Y'know what? All this shit went AFTER unions were dismantled, not before!

Stick that factoid up your ass and suck it!
maddmatt's avatar
Not true. In fact hostess is still negotiating with the unions.
mosobot64's avatar
Actually, Hostess is currently liquidating their assets and getting the paperwork signed to sell their trademarks to the highest bidder.
maddmatt's avatar
Currently, yes. After the initial decree to close, bankruptcy judge ordered mediation attempts with the union stating the union had serious flawed logic in striking. Those attempts to reason with the union has now failed again.

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mosobot64's avatar
I say again that it's not the union's fault the company was failing so badly in the first place.
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mosobot64's avatar
Not at Hostess, but unions around the country have been being dismantled for years, which have led to declining wages, which have led to decreased sales, which in turn, along with increased competition, led to Hostess' collapse.

Big picture, folks, it's not that hard.
meanus's avatar
unions are certainly doing there part to increase the Bum Nation
StephenL's avatar
What will Fred Sanford do without Twinkies?
What's next the orange drink Tang?
meanus's avatar
I thought you said that article would be interesting
ndifference's avatar
Sorry mate, I was talking to Matt. I'll let you know if I find a Hooked On Phonics version for you.
meanus's avatar
thanks man!!!
VISIONOFTHEWORLD's avatar
A "beloved company"
You people are truly sick in the skull. Looks like your pathetic attempt at propogandizing and hating on wage earners kinda got stuffed. Damn. What a shame. You love that company, they went out of business... looks like you lost your lover.:no:
TortelliniPen's avatar
B-but the free market will fix it!
meanus's avatar
wouldn't it be great if we actually had free markets? fuck Big Brother
TortelliniPen's avatar
Any free market worth its gold standard would've killed any company that was so poorly managed and that failed to adapt on the level that Hostess was. Hooray for capitalism!
meanus's avatar
well, when you have union involvement, naturally the company is going to fail
TortelliniPen's avatar
You keep on thinking that now.
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