Seriously though, California has some serious problems with figuring out how to manage their money. Weren't they going to build a multi-billion dollar high speed train from L.A. to San Francisco without the actual high-speed train? (Correct me if I'm wrong; I bugged out of there before the issue was done being debated. XP)
They pay federal tax, state tax and even county or municipality tax. It's not that their tax is only 8.25%. Plus in England you have everything in that 20% package, in California they have nothing but highways.
To those of you that are comparing your sales tax in other countries to California's, just remember, you are getting a lot more for your tax dollars than we get in the US. Our system doesn't support us as well as other countries. So even a slight increase actually sees far less in returns to the taxpayers. And when those politicians tend to not want to disclose how the tax revenue is being spent, people are a little bit upset.
Trying to convince other countries that we wouldn't mind paying higher taxes if we got something of value for those high taxes is an uphill struggle. Trying to convince them that we have zero confidence in our politicians to spend that money correctly is even harder.
Some places in Europe pay like, 35% tax? Some places even more. Get over it. Its not a one person country. There are THOUSANDS of people that are struggling to make ends meet. Its about common courtesy.
GalacticGoatFeatured By OwnerNov 14, 2012Hobbyist General Artist
Oh boohoo, in my province in Canada we pay 16% taxes on most things and yes I'm happy to pay it because I rather pay high taxes then have streets falling apart, no police protection, no one to stop fires, no decent schools for the children of the community, no where for the children to go after school and have to pay 2-3 times out of my pocket for basic medical coverage.
Taxes can be bad but they're also beneficial for a country to run properly. Unless you're getting ridiculously overtaxed which btw under 9% is far FAAAAAAAAAAR from overtaxed you need to just deal with it. Instead of complaining about taxes, especially ones that are low by comparison to much of the world, criticize HOW those taxes are being used. The worse thing people can do is assume all taxation is evil without even knowing how that money is spent. You'd be surprise of all the very good things that money goes towards that would really fucked the shit out of your community if that money wasn't there.
I guess I should have been more specific, but I'm upset with the fact that the California government doesn't spend the money they say they will, so I didn't trust them on the specific proposition. They have been raising taxes every single year, but my streets are falling apart, the education system sucks, etc etc. I have no idea where the money is actually going to.
You account for every single penny that they spend now? Just because you, little tiny insignificant you can't see everything that they do, that they're doing nothing with it?
Guess what, money is HARD, life is HARD, people are struggling to feed themselves and their children, people are living in places where murders are happening next door but have no money to get out. Guess what, the education system sucks, but its better than not having one. If its such a big problem. Go get a petition up, get people involved.
Or sit there, in a pub, slagging off a group of people about their work that you've done nothing to even attempt to research in.
Californian Reporting in. I am by no means a wealthy fellow, but I'd rather work towards lowering our State's debt than go without a coffee a couple times a week. It's definitely not that big of a deal, especially considering the situations everyone else is in heheh. Oh, and in a Depression, it is a viable method to raise taxes to cushion its effects, pretty sure we can handle it, cuz yknow, we're badass
Californian here. You're an idiot. We had an 8.375% tax a few years ago. We dealt with it then; we can deal with it now. At least the money goes to the state's education budget and paying down the state's debt. And for fuck's sake, it's a QUARTER OF A CENT INCREASE. If you spend $100, you pay an additional 25 cents. Get over it.
My dad is an accountant. HE told me about the change. Its different depending on the area of California you live in. No, I'm not stupid. I'm pretty sure I can trust someone who deals with taxes on a daily basis.
This fact means absolutely nothing to me. If you looked at the General Election packet it told you all the information you could possibly need about the bill. Assuming most people read it, they felt the increases were justifiable, and with good reason.
There are over 35 million people in California, and this legislation is going to potentially add $6 Billion to state revenue, which we need right now to cover the soaring costs the state has been incurring across the past six or seven years.
I did read the packet. And I think the money isn't going to go to education. The California government had lied in the past, and they will do it again. But I could be wrong. We will just have to wait and see I guess. (was it really necessary to call me stupid? )
My apologies. I'm a stickler about government policies. There are a lot of people I know who want things and aren't willing to pay the necessary taxes to afford them. It's bad math and usually requires other things being cut (for example, my dad's pay has been cut every year for the past five because he works in public service).
I believe the government just doesn't know how to properly spend the money California has. They keep pulling out money and don't know how to manage it. I don't think the problem is how much we have. And Swartznagger definitely made the problem worse. I think we need more financial experts in the California government.