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NOM To Blackmail Equality-Supporting Companies By Stoking Middle East Anti-Gay Persecution

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Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) plans to expand its campaign to stoke homophobia abroad to undermine pro-equality American companies, according to audio of a conference call obtained by The American Independent. When asked during the call about Starbucks, which had spoken out against anti-gay ballot referenda, NOM President Brian Brown suggested his organization planned to intensify its campaign against Starbucks and other similar companies in countries where homophobia is pervasive:

Their international outreach is where we can have the most effect…So for example, in Qatar, in the Middle East, we’ve begun working to make sure that there’s some price to be paid for this. These are not countries that look kindly on same-sex marriage. And this is where Starbucks wants to expand, as well as India. So we have done some of this; we’ve got to do a lot more.

This strategy is incredibly irresponsible: by associating Starbucks with gay rights in homophobic countries, NOM is singling out Starbucks employees for anti-gay abuse and more generally stoking anger towards LGBT people. The broader Middle East is home to three out of the five countries in the world where homosexuality is punishable by death. Though Qatar specifically isn’t one of them, its government defends other countries’ right to execute LGBT persons and, according to the State Department, “there was an underlying pattern of discrimination towards LGBT persons based on conservative cultural and religious values prevalent in the society.” The situation in India, the other country NOM singled out, is also dire:

The majority of Indian homosexuals – many of whom still live with the parents – refer to their partners as “friends” for fear of being disowned by their families. Many are forcibly married off, trapped in a cycle of pretence and deception and facing social ridicule if they attempted to come out. And those who can live together do not advertise their sexuality, for fear of being evicted by landlords or preyed upon by the corrupt police who extort money from them on threat of exposure.

Under these circumstances, attempting to associate Starbucks with LGBT causes with said causes is doubly irresponsible. NOM is exposing employees to risk they did not voluntarily take on and potentially undermining the quest for the most basic of equal rights by painting LGBT rights as something foreign imposed by a Western company. That NOM is willing to take these chances with others’ lives and livelihoods — to “pay the price,” in Brown’s words — in an attempt to indirectly (and so far, unsucessfully) influence politics inside the United States speaks volumes about the organization.

Why haven't we persecuted this organization for being a hate group yet?

I feel that groups like this should be labeled terrorist groups as they act JUST LIKE the Taliban and Al Qaeda; except they are more of an actual threat.
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
NOM and FRC are hate groups, I'm surprised you didn't mention the Evangelicals and their missionary trip to Uganda to encourage the government to make homosexuality punishable by death. Christians are evil, and they can't fathom ever being in the wrong.
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Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I wouldnt consider the NOM OR FRC to be Christian by ANY stretch of the imagination
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I don't see any christians denouncing these groups, I see them adhering to their believes whenever my mom watches john hagee, rod parsley, creflo dollar, or pat robertson though
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Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Speaking as a non-Christian; it makes me want to beat my head against the wall because even I have enough knowledge of Christianity to know that what they are doing is not Christian at all, let alone following the tenets of any faith
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Jeysie Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
"Why haven't we persecuted this organization for being a hate group yet?"

Because we still haven't struck a balance between free speech and preventing people from willfully harming others through verbal communication.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I think it's like the problem with the 2nd Amendment; too loosely defined.

In Europe, last I checked, hate speech is punishable.

Here, it isnt.

In Europe, Fox News type journalism wouldnt be allowed.

Here, it thrives.

We have a problem and the balance must be struck

And right wing religion needs to be told to act like adults OR be treated like children and/or terrorists
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Jeysie Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I honestly think we need some kind of checks on the whole matter. What form they should take is the minefield, though.

It doesn't help that ironically the conservatives have co-opted liberal beliefs for their own benefit. Namely, the dogma of tolerance, political correctness, and equal consideration. They know everyone thinks many of their stances are bigoted and hateful, but as long as they can say that tolerance and PCness requires respecting their beliefs, and as long as they can leverage the growing cult of centrism...
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
i know...
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I imagine they escape the terrorist label because a)they don't directly attack and b)they aren't using actual weapons such as bombs or guns. Personally the only difference I'm seeing is that they're taking a roundabout, passive-aggressive route to terrorism. And anyone who's dealt with passive-aggressiveness knows that means they'll get away with it legally, it's "not their fault" people died since they didn't pull the trigger. Which of course, is bullshit. Is a conspiracy still a conspiracy if it's exposed?
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
IMO even passive aggressive terrorism is terrorism
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:iconempiredice:
empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
And in mine, terrorism is still terrorism whether it's dealt by aggression, passive-aggression, or passiveness.
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:iconladysuzaku:
LadySuzaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Agreed!
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yep!
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I... Wha.. I...
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I know right
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I doubt my faith in humanity is ever coming back. Hold me. ;___;
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*hold*
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
*Snuggle.* Why, ~Dkalban, why?!?!
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Because they're hateful idiots Dawn, that's why. But we can stop them
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:icondawnsbreak:
DawnsBreak Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
But how!? It seems so hopeless! :nuu:
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's darkest before the dawn
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LadySuzaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Wait... you mean to tell me that NOM is going to deliberately and intentionally place human lives in danger in countries where homosexuals are daily threatened from anything with kicked out of their families to execution... just because Starbucks supports the LGBT community??? :O

That... is incredibly petty.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Well, look at who their membership is comprised of....
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:iconladysuzaku:
LadySuzaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I am just stunned that they would go this far.

I wonder... how many people who support NOM would actually support this recent action in the knowledge that people will actually be killed as a direct result.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If they did they wouldnt care
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:iconladysuzaku:
LadySuzaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
:disbelief:

Wanna sign a petition against this crap??? [link]
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
done!
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:iconladysuzaku:
LadySuzaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
:D
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Lets hope someone in Congress will rip NOM a new one.
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
If its only National, then what are they doing to meddle in International affairs?
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Because they're are religious extremists who want to spread their hate around
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
That's why I'm thinking of asking the UN to pass a sanction to keep church separate from state, worldwide; stripping them of any legal jurisdiction anywhere. I'd also have the UN remind all nations that the church could end up being the scorecard of the nation, and the USA is currently grade F.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
ouch
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:iconabstract-mindser:
Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
When the church has infiltrated the state at the deepest level, that makes it Grade F material.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Good point.

We should tax all religions as well maybe; or just the more blatant violators.
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:iconabstract-mindser:
Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Yeah, they take 10% of their pay for the preists, and Jesus did say to give unto Caesar what is owed to him, where is our cut?
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Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Nowhere to be seen

Personally; a lot of Christians certainly dont act it
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
I find the name National Organization for Marriage is very ironic, since they're actively trying to prevent a certain group of people from marrying.

Also, nom nom nom SANDVICH AND ME GOING TO BEAT YOUR ASS
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
my ass?
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:iconpakaku:
Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
:iconheavyplz: YOU ARE SO SMALL

IS FUNNY TO ME
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Small but spunky!
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
You can't persecute an organization that has the the same ideals about marriage as half of the country. They can be sued if they do that.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It's less than half the country that believes that.

It's bigotry, plain and simple. Bigotry shouldn't be protected. It should be fought.

Plus now they are endangering lives with this BS
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
They don't care. As long as someone out there that supports gays, they will be hounding them down. Now, Starbucks, on the other hand, can sue NOM to death and back for going after them.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes that would be good
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:iconkitsumekat:
kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Then, they lose their non-profit status.
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:icondkalban:
Dkalban Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Agreed
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