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November 10, 2012


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GOP: You're done, son.

gussiejives Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nothing more to be said, really, but it's worth explaining. Now that this election is over, we can see how devastating the loss was to the GOP.

I want to make one thing clear up front: when I say "conservative", I mean American small "c" conservatism, and I equate it to being a Republican. Are there moderates out there? Of course. Are there moderates who self-identify as conservatives? Absolutely. But they've been excommunicated from the Republican party, leaving American conservatism firmly in the hand of the Republican Part and the Republican Party only. Your David Frums and Andrew Sullivans have been cast out to wander the wilderness, or just become a "conservative" Democrat.

I consider American conservatism to be at best the David Brooks-style snake oil salesmanism or Rush Limbaugh fire-breathing moron. This is how I use the term.

Okay, that said, it's a dying brand with no return. Nationally, conservatives, the GOP, are done. You likely won't win a national election again.

Why? Two reasons:

:bulletblue: Simple aging of the base.
:bulletblue: The cruelty of the policies don't appeal to the minorities and young people.

We saw the "moderate" face of your extreme policies in Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. And American rejected them wholesale. We normal people aren't the bigoted bastards who capriciously deal out suffering through cuts that they thought we are, or would vote on. We don't like Randian orthodoxy that hurts poor people just for the sake of a hierarchy. We don't like the guys who obsess over forcing women to give birth to their rape babies for Jesus. We don't like people who suggest making the lives of immigrants so horrible that they self-deport. Sure, you kept the House with gerrymandering, but that's all that saved your asses. Sure, you can capture State Houses, but how long with that go on for when your base dies off?

Conservatives, Objectivists, religious fundamentalists, you need to change and grow up, or you will be the outliers within the next 25 years.


:bulletred: Is it possible for these groups to admit how flawed their policies are?
:bulletred: Can moderate polices actually make a comeback with, say, a third party? (Think red Tories in the Canadian tradition).
:bulletred: Will they march into the abyss, or actually make a change?

And the question I want to ask directly to conservatives in the States:

:bulletyellow: If you consider yourself a moderate conservative, why do you hitch your wagon to the GOP, the party of the crazies and fundamentalists?

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AlGideon Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Not really, The republicans still got 47% of the vote,

More over their policies and political campaigning might return with vengeance just as it did in 2010.

For the GOP, they could change their policies to reflect the power of solid voting bloc's such as single women and single moms. Or they could just focus heavily on strengthening their base, registering voters and create new wedge issues.

Abortion? Forget about it. Perhaps focus on taxes, pit it as this sort of question "Why should X tax dollars go to fun Y groups choices?" You'll find the GOP back once more.
Scnal Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't think they're done. They already got a half-popular candidate that people know the name of, whereas Obama can't run for another term and the democrats don't really have anyone left that people know and would vote for. Republicans want revenge for Obama getting in, while democrats are relatively pretty satisfied for now.

If they play their cards right, they've got one term pretty much already. Not sure what'd happen afterwards.
miletich2 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I am politically neutral, which makes me neither conservative nor liberal. Hers's what I want to happen in America. Here's what I'm saying to President Obama. If he's fed up with the death threats and the crybaby Republicans such as Donald Trump, these are his objectives.

:bulletpurple:Stop the reckless spending and pay off the national debt. I don't care if the president doesn't care if it's not too important to deal with.
:bulletpurple:Ensure that big cities such as Los Angeles and Bakersfield have far cleaner transportation like subways. I am aware that public transportation isn't so flexible and hardly anything can be done to make it so.
:bulletpurple:Gay marriages should be legal all over the United States. Not only is it a good way to control population growth, but also to make things more flexible to gays and lesbians.
:bulletpurple:Like Mitt Romney said, it's time to turn the page. I want to see no more recessions and no 2nd Great Depression. Also I wanna see no World War III between the GOP and Democrats.
DefineDeviancyDown Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Conservatism is on the ascendancy. Watch out, it will sneak up on you as it is the dominant thought in American politics ie the majority agree with conservative ideas. Of course you'll deny this! The traditional, old guard Republican party is dying. The party of Bush, Rove, McCain, Graham, Boehner and their ilk. Conservatives have been betrayed by these people and that betrayal has led to their own demise.
JackMolotov3 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
"Conservatism is on the ascendancy."

probably no. It peaked around 2011, with 2010 being the peak election cycle. At best its plateauing, if anything on a slight decline. Not to say the conservative movement is in any bit finished, but its hardly the dominant thought.

If anything a good chunk of the new conservative base is now libertarian.

" Watch out, it will sneak up on you as it is the dominant thought in American politics ie the majority agree with conservative ideas. Of course you'll deny this!"
and the liberals claim the same thing, with the same polls full of skewed loaded questions.
GH-MoNGo Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional
Meh... enjoy Fox Noise complaining about it for the next four years. The electorate can and will change at the drop of a hat.
SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heh, "Fox Noise". Rather like that.
GH-MoNGo Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012  Professional
I can't take credit for it. Keith Olbermann started using that name on his old show "Countdown".
Unvalanced Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
2% less popular vote = "Rejected wholesale"

Funny, how did that whole 2004 election go?
snuffles11 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Where have you been? D:
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