Obama won so people will get fired. It's already happening
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You can't disagree with this, it's just fact. People are being laid off off in droves, and it's because of the unbelievably high costs that businesses are being burdened with due to Obamacare.
Not playing devils advocate, but what about the stats about unemployment is up? Isn't it true that if there are 2 people, they might take 3 jobs, and make it look like the economy is up?
I do wonder though.
I do wonder though.
Well, that doesn't exactly have much to do with my comment. I was only referring to the fact that hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people have been laid of since Obama's reelection, and the employers have stated openly that it is because the added costs that Obamacare is placing on their companies. They can no longer afford to keep as many workers.
Here's the real kicker, what if everyone was on welfare. The economy will crash for sure. You know? If the '1 percent' elite can't provide for anyone.
I'm sure it's such a shame for the Democrats that we need rich people or they couldn't finance their ridiculous spending programs.
I never met a poor person that owns a business.
Neither have I.
Let me get this straight, especially since I just got back from a long trip to Kansas and am ready to start fuckin' with some heads.
President Obama implements a Republican healthcare program because Republicans didn't favor the Democratic healthcare program. Despite this, the Republicans had issue after issue with the Republican part of the healthcare program becoming law, and now they're complaining that the Republican part of that program kills business, but still disfavor the single payer system? My mind is just going @__@ right now.
President Obama implements a Republican healthcare program because Republicans didn't favor the Democratic healthcare program. Despite this, the Republicans had issue after issue with the Republican part of the healthcare program becoming law, and now they're complaining that the Republican part of that program kills business, but still disfavor the single payer system? My mind is just going @__@ right now.
Wait, why were you in Kansas? XD
I went to visit my sister for a weekend. 
Oh wow. Well, I was gonna say... I live in Kansas and I love it here, but there is NOTHING special about it.
I didn't think there was anything special about it. Even the city named after Kansas is in fucking Missouri. That point aside, was a fun trip.
False. KC in Kansas is still cool. We've got the better sports team, anyway. >D
We've got the better sports team, anyway. >DRepublicans didn't really want this at all. I think it was stated, that they denied it was a tax, then it was a tax. I'm still wondering about that part. What about work requirements to get it. How long do you have to work to get any insurance? What if you are unable to work yet denied SSD and SSI? That's a whole another issue as well.
Work requirement? You're not forced to work. You only have to purchase insurance if you can afford it, meaning more than 35,000 a year. If not, you automatically qualify for Medicaid.
The fact that the Republicans have been complaining about Republican-designed healthcare solely because the Democrats implemented it and "LOL Dems Bad", despite the fact that it only exists because they also complained about Democrat-designed healthcare, has been known for pretty much ages now.
And you wonder why I roll my eyes at the Centrist Cultists.
And you wonder why I roll my eyes at the Centrist Cultists.
If you rolled your eyes at them, we wouldn't have a problem. It's really the yelling and the cussing we don't like.
1. I inherited my temper from my mom. If you think I'm bad, you should meet my mom and her side of the family.
2. You spend your entire time doing all the research and crafting up thoroughly-explained points, only to have them mostly ignored and unaddressed, bonus points if the person then lies you didn't give any facts or explain your point, and see what it does to your disposition and frustration levels. I find people treat me like dirt no matter how I behave, so I might as well vent some steam.
(And then add on that I get to deal with a whole lot of crap offline, too. My mom, in particular, loves to blame me for her own goofups, and my landlord is a lazy slumlord dick who threatens me with eviction every time I ask him to do anything that needs to get done in the apartment.)
2. You spend your entire time doing all the research and crafting up thoroughly-explained points, only to have them mostly ignored and unaddressed, bonus points if the person then lies you didn't give any facts or explain your point, and see what it does to your disposition and frustration levels. I find people treat me like dirt no matter how I behave, so I might as well vent some steam.
(And then add on that I get to deal with a whole lot of crap offline, too. My mom, in particular, loves to blame me for her own goofups, and my landlord is a lazy slumlord dick who threatens me with eviction every time I ask him to do anything that needs to get done in the apartment.)
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Just... So, I give a nice, calm, well-reasoned explanation of why I act the way I do and what my motivations are, and all you can do is give a smartass "lol nope" reaction which you know, like I said:
"[giving facts] and crafting up thoroughly-explained points, only to have them mostly ignored and unaddressed, bonus points if the person then lies you didn't give any facts or explain your point,"
And, well, like I said:
"and see what it does to your disposition and frustration levels. I find people treat me like dirt no matter how I behave, so I might as well vent some steam."
So hey, thanks for proving my point with your reaction, dude. Thanks for proving 100% why I don't waste my time trying to be nice versus just yelling and cussing at people.
Tell you what, when you folks stop treating me like dirt and ignoring/insulting my every attempt to hold a civil, well-reasoned debate, I'll stop getting frustrated and venting at you. How's that sound?
I know, inb4 asshole smartass response ignoring and refusing to address a single point I've made and then going, "LOL, but you're still wrong for not being love and sweetness to me even as I'm an asshole to you, LOL." Seriously, I don't get what you people want from me.
Why did you bother telling me I "shouldn't yell and cuss" if you were going to be an asshole to me the second I tried being nice and giving you a civil response? It's like, if you're going to act like an asshole to me every time I try to be civil and nice, then why exactly do you expect me to waste my time being civil and nice?
Seriously. It's just hilariously stupid. "LOL, don't yell and cuss, while I do the very thing that makes you want to yell and cuss!"
Just... So, I give a nice, calm, well-reasoned explanation of why I act the way I do and what my motivations are, and all you can do is give a smartass "lol nope" reaction which you know, like I said:"[giving facts] and crafting up thoroughly-explained points, only to have them mostly ignored and unaddressed, bonus points if the person then lies you didn't give any facts or explain your point,"
And, well, like I said:
"and see what it does to your disposition and frustration levels. I find people treat me like dirt no matter how I behave, so I might as well vent some steam."
So hey, thanks for proving my point with your reaction, dude. Thanks for proving 100% why I don't waste my time trying to be nice versus just yelling and cussing at people.
Tell you what, when you folks stop treating me like dirt and ignoring/insulting my every attempt to hold a civil, well-reasoned debate, I'll stop getting frustrated and venting at you. How's that sound?
I know, inb4 asshole smartass response ignoring and refusing to address a single point I've made and then going, "LOL, but you're still wrong for not being love and sweetness to me even as I'm an asshole to you, LOL." Seriously, I don't get what you people want from me.
Why did you bother telling me I "shouldn't yell and cuss" if you were going to be an asshole to me the second I tried being nice and giving you a civil response? It's like, if you're going to act like an asshole to me every time I try to be civil and nice, then why exactly do you expect me to waste my time being civil and nice?
Seriously. It's just hilariously stupid. "LOL, don't yell and cuss, while I do the very thing that makes you want to yell and cuss!"
You give a pathetic justification for treating most of us like absolute crap and then whine when I make fun of you for it? And that is your definition of civility? A passive aggressive few paragraphs filled with accusations of wrongdoing against most of the forum, and then a plea to understand your circumstances and that we shouldn't hold you to such a high standard because you need to "blow off steam"?
Your definition of a well reasoned debate is "I made an assertion and now you must prove it wrong." Even when we provide sources, you just say "nope, I have sources, thus you're wrong." There's no reasoning with you in any circumstance.
Grow up. You're what, a decade older than me? Surely you did SOME maturing somewhere in there? This is embarrassing.
Your definition of a well reasoned debate is "I made an assertion and now you must prove it wrong." Even when we provide sources, you just say "nope, I have sources, thus you're wrong." There's no reasoning with you in any circumstance.
Grow up. You're what, a decade older than me? Surely you did SOME maturing somewhere in there? This is embarrassing.
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I equate their contempt for the healthcare law while rejecting the "s"-word option to being anti-abortion but being anti-contraceptive at the same time. They've become the party of contrarians, rejecting even their own philosophical ideals based on who it is that implements them. If John McCain won in 2008 and implemented the ACA, they would support the healthcare law (just the same as I might oppose it). If John McCain killed bin Laden, they'd give him credit instead of the "Seal Team 6 did it". @______________@
I'm centrist in that I think the healthcare law is actually good. Do I get the eye roll?
I'm centrist in that I think the healthcare law is actually good. Do I get the eye roll?
Bingo. The Republican Party is, right now, the Party of Hating the Liberals. Well, and a side of Help the Rich.
And, no. There's a difference between centrists (little c) and the Cultists. Hell, I'm a moderate/centrist myself, I just accept that at the moment the liberals are putting on a MUCH better show as a general thing than the conservatives, unlike the Cultists.
And, no. There's a difference between centrists (little c) and the Cultists. Hell, I'm a moderate/centrist myself, I just accept that at the moment the liberals are putting on a MUCH better show as a general thing than the conservatives, unlike the Cultists.
You don't strike me as a moderate.