The Party of Bipolar Disorder - Observations of the Republican Party


mgonzales041090's avatar
On numerous topics, I can't help but notice that Republicans have this habit of shifting positions based on how much the Democrats agree with it. Take for example, healthcare reform.

The majority of the American people love Obamacare. They just don't know it.

Parts of Obamacare people like (based on Reuters):
80% favor the creation of insurance pools and banning the lifetime healthcare cost cap.
70 percent supported regulating private insurance companies to make sure they offer comparable coverage.
82% supported a ban on denying coverage because of preexisting conditions.
86% agreed companies should not be allowed to cancel policies when the owners become ill.


The other provisions of the bill, such as the allowance of children to stay covered on parents plan, the extended life of Medicare, and the expansion of Medicaid to people with under 36,000 dollars, have all received overwhelming support amongst the general populous of the United States.

So what does this tell us?

It gets broken down to one part, the part most people disagree with. The mandate. Here's a slight history on the mandate. The first idea for a healthcare mandate came from Republican President Richard Nixon. It was further supported by G.H. Bush. It was implemented as law in MA by Mitt Romney. The bill's original provisions were thought up by the Heritage Foundation, a Conservative think-tank. So what does this tell us? The part of the bill most people despise is the Republican part of it. Even Republicans despise it. Those of us educated people kind of go "wtf" about it. Those of you morons out there don't notice the provisions and arbitrarily hate the bill because of the "Obama" part in it. And thus, based on polls of the bill's provisions, we can conclude that the American people ultimately LOVE the bill, except for the Republican part of it. This tells me that Republicans are incredibly good at propaganda.

They can continually push through ideologies which are plain bad, yet get sold so well to the American people. Iraq is a threat to our nation? From a continent and an ocean away? There's a persecution of Christians in this country? Despite the fact that most of the country is controlled by people of a Christian religion? It's just retarded. Everything said is detached from reality or plain bad, yet the common people bite into it. Bravo Pubs. Your skills at propaganda are unmatched. If the Obama administration had your talents, the number of people supporting Obamacare would practically be doubled, especially considering the number of people who support each individual provision of the bill still hate the bill.



And immigration reform? The DREAM Act was originally thought up by Congressman Orrinn Hatch, a Republican. When the idea to add military service as a means of obtaining residency status was proposed, it had bipartisan support. Today, it doesn't. As we know, when the Democrats begun to favor it, and brought it up for passage, it failed in the Senate, and has continually failed, despite Republican-favored provisions being added to the bill. The spite is so great that Republican Presidential nominee Mitt Romney has pledged to veto the DREAM Act should he become President.


Same thing applies to climate change. Republicans used to believe that climate change was a very real threat, one which Bush 41 sought to remedy by use of cap and trade on carbon emissions. Now that the Democrats have sided with the remedy of cap-and-trade for climate change, Republicans plain deny climate change exists. One could speculate that this has a lot to do with the fact that oil companies basically have the Republican party on their payroll.


And while we're on the subject of environmental concerns, the EPA was supported and created by Republican President Richard Nixon. Now it's called a job killer, and a waste. Some Republicans have even called to abolish the EPA altogether.




So the question is, what the fuck happened to you guys? Just take your medication and stop pretending Dems have germs every time they support the same thing you support. Discuss.
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TheAwsomeOpossum's avatar
"On numerous topics, I can't help but notice that Republicans have this habit of shifting positions based on how much the Democrats agree with it. Take for example, healthcare reform. "

Yeah, that's the way it goes. Democrats are the more 'central' party, right now, whereas Republicans are the 'opposition'.

"The majority of the American people love Obamacare. They just don't know it."

Well, why don't you get a survey about the things they don't like about Obamacare too. It does no good to just list supporting things.

"And while we're on the subject of environmental concerns, the EPA was supported and created by Republican President Richard Nixon. Now it's called a job killer, and a waste. Some Republicans have even called to abolish the EPA altogether."

Yeah, the EPA was created... wasn't it when Theodore Roosevelt was president (might need to double check that)? However, you need to remember, Theodore Roosevelt was pro-unions, which tends to conflict with the Republican party today. Just as at that time, the Democratic Party was pro-seperate-but-equal. Which tends to conflict with the Democratic party of today. Parties shift over time, and so they aren't always going to support things they used to support. It's also important to know people will be more moderate on issues they disagree with in their home part so that way they can assert stronger support with issues they agree with. So parties have a 'centralizing' effect, of sorts.

"So the question is, what the fuck happened to you guys? Just take your medication and stop pretending Dems have germs every time they support the same thing you support. Discuss."

Well, that's the way the Democratic Party was at one time. There usually is a 'center' party, and an 'opposition' party. It's just happened to switch over the last few decades.

Also, statements like 'take your medication and stop pretending Dems have germs' don't help you convey your position; they just make you look kinda... well... a bit like a jerk. So don't do those, and you'll have better input from Republicans, okay? =).

Best of Wishes,
-TAO
mgonzales041090's avatar
Also, statements like 'take your medication and stop pretending Dems have germs' don't help you convey your position; they just make you look kinda... well... a bit like a jerk.
I'm a bit of a jerk anyways. What's the fun part of politics without the controversy?
TheAwsomeOpossum's avatar
"I'm a bit of a jerk anyways."

But you know how to not act like a jerk. So don't do it... People will like you more =D, and that most of the time a good thing!

"What's the fun part of politics without the controversy?"

You can have controversy, just don't be a jerk while doing it =). They aren't mutually inclusive =D.
zodiacgal's avatar
Republicans are floppy, that's all there is too it! :dummy:
sonrouge's avatar
Republicans are politicians just like democrats, so it shouldn't be any surprise they flip-flop on things. However, this doesn't automatically make what they flip-flop on right.
raidpirate's avatar
Climate change is a load of crap. When are you people going to get it through your heads that you're being cheated? What are the higher powers doing about climate change? Obama talked about how he's driven in more oil than the Bush term. Obama goes around in a helicopter that releases more CO2 than any one average American's car. Al Gore lives in a house with higher AC than anyone in his state. Global Warming? Climate Change? Open your eyes!
viberunner's avatar
LOL... next you'll be telling me the Devil placed the fossils to test our faith and then wibble on about the "Hollohoax".
raidpirate's avatar
No, that would be ridiculous.
viberunner's avatar
Yes. As ridiculous as a lone internet voice angrily denouncing any other scientific consensus...
dadona777's avatar
how old are you?
raidpirate's avatar
Fill a cup with water. Put it in the freezer. When its ice, have it melt. It won't overflow.
viberunner's avatar
You're missing the point about the Arctic and Antarctic. The Arctic is just, as you say, a big ice cube. The displacement of it melting will be negligible.

HOWEVER, the Antarctic isn't an ice cube. Like, say, Greenland, it's ice on rock</>, so if and when it melts the ice goes into the sea and adds to that volume.

Where did you get your education? Oxford? Cambridge? An evangelical Texan community college?
dadona777's avatar
no, put a cup with some ice in it on the counter, then watch it melt. it will overflow
raidpirate's avatar
By putting ice in it, you're adding more than what you started. The ocean isn't being added water. The ice caps are just water from the ocean that froze over time.
dadona777's avatar
no, that's not how it works

say you have a bowl of water, but 1/4 of the water is frozen. as long as some of the water is frozen, the water level does not reach the top of the bowl. if that frozen water melts, the water content increases and the ice content decreases. the water level will reach the top of the bowl and the ice will shrink

now imagine if this bowl was the oceans and outside the bowl was dry land. the ice is collected at the north and south poles. the ice is also stacked up on itself so that it takes up less space than liquid water would. if that ice melts, then the water will run off into the oceans, causing them to become more filled with water and overflow onto the dry land. the coasts of the dry land will become flooded because the oceans will have gained more water from the frozen ice that was originally packed together at the poles
raidpirate's avatar
But the water in the ice caps wasn't ALWAYS frozen. What you're saying is to add more than what was there. The dinosaurs had no ice caps, but there was still land, wasn't there. Obviously cause dinosaurs were land animals.
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RestInMotion's avatar
Hilarious. It's a load of crap yet you can't provide any evidence that it isn't happening?
raidpirate's avatar
What's a load of crap? Climate Change? Global Warming?
RestInMotion's avatar
So you have no evidence?
raidpirate's avatar
Yes, it's cold outside. Warming means, warm. It isn't warm. Where's your evidence?
RestInMotion's avatar
So you have no evidence?
raidpirate's avatar
I gave you mine, I'm asking for you.
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