Basically, while there's been plenty of attention focused on creating jobs to begin with, I find it frustrating that there seems to be little to no focus on actually getting people into jobs. Oh sure, there are a bunch of resources out there, but they all still involve you being forced to play "The Game". And "The Game" is pretty damn complicated, and has many, many, many places where it can go wrong for even the most job-desiring, hard-working job seeker. Consider.
1. There has to be openings within your skillset to apply to begin with. Anything from being trapped in the wrong area for your skillset because you don't have the thousands of dollars needed to move somewhere that would match better (if your lower-class momma gave birth to a great <x> in a region where <x> has almost no use, sucks so much to be you), to many of the jobs you would be suited for being ones listed only internally and you not knowing anyone who can give you an in (70% of jobs are found via networking, which means someone who is skilled and capable yet has no network usable for job searching is more or less boned), can produce problems here.
2. Your resume has to get noticed. And even something as small and impossible to know beforehand as putting the job titles for each previous job in the wrong spot before or after the company's name, so that the keyword scanner of the company you're applying to doesn't properly scan your resume, can get your resume never seen.
3. The company has to not discriminate against you for reasons unrelated to your ability to do the job. Like passing you over because you've been unemployed too long even though you had a good reason (like an illness or injury, or, oh, nobody giving you a job because you've been unemployed too long), or too many jobs because all you could find was temporary work, or requiring a degree for a job with zero job requirements that require a degree, and so on.
4. If you actually get the interview, you have to nail it perfectly. And as anyone who's been job searching lately will tell you, this is difficult due to there being a crapload of different questioning tactics hiring managers employ. Anyone who's an introvert or otherwise not a natural socialite might as well give up now, even if the actual job would require less social skills.
5. And even you nail the interview, you might still lose the job because the interviewer just liked another applicant's hair better, or they decided to fill the job internally at the last minute, or such.
The end result of all of this is that currently 42.8% of unemployed people have been unemployed for 27 or more weeks. [link] These people are ready, willing, and able to work, (since the official counts are people who are actively looking for work) but issues with "playing the game" are keeping them from being able to do so.
Meanwhile, many other people are underemployed or misemployed, stuck in poor jobs that either waste their skills or are a mismatch for them, because that's what "the game" left them with.
So the question is: What can we do about this? We can create jobs until the cows come home--and should do so, for that matter--but if we're falling down on getting unemployed people into those jobs then it's not going to help much. And the fact that more than 40% of unemployed people are long-term unemployed tells me that yes, we are definitely failing miserably in getting the people who most need/want jobs actually into them.
And under- and misemployed people end up both wasting potential productivity, and blocking those jobs from people who would be better suited to them.
And even those who manage to successfully navigate The Game, it can still take weeks or even months to do so. I feel like there has to be a more efficient and less wasteful way to get people into jobs.
Now, I know by this point some of you are rolling your eyes and pfffting and not giving a shit, because "not everyone is entitled to a job", or "it's their own fault if they can't play the game", or something like that. To which I say, use your fucking brains for once. Every person who is ready, willing, and able to work yet unable to get a job to hire them due to "the game", is a person who is draining unemployment, welfare, or other public assistance budgets when they could be self-supporting and paying taxes instead. People who are underemployed also often need to rely on one form of assistance or another. If you genuinely want to cut government spending, then you support trying to find realistic ways to get these un- and underemployed people into good jobs.
And of course, like I said, there's the loss in productivity to society caused by people's skills going wasted or someone trying to do a job they're ill suited for. Which is why "well, they can just get a burger-flipping job" to an unemployed college-trained person is also a pointless argument, as it both wastes the skills of the college trained person and blocks someone without a lot of skills from being able to get a job because the college student is currently stuck filling the unskilled job that would otherwise serve as a viable opportunity for the unskilled worker.
Welding can be highly complicated and is getting more so. Laser welding, inert gas welding, stir friction welding, plasma welding and so on… there are a lot of specialized technologies out there, and using them correctly does take some skill. I don't know how much of that is maths, but it isn't nothing.
Yes, but it's not one of those tasks that you need a $100,000 degree and a talent in engineering. I like to think that needing to learn a task doesn't automatically rule out 99% of the population.
Hmm. I do feel that's part of the problem; we're doing an absolutely shitty job of getting people going into schooling to go into the right fields of schooling.
Was there a more specific/different reason it nags you?
At least among graduating college students, there is suppose to be a higher amount of unemployement as soon as they graduate. But looking at my degree on the list, Computer Science, it is actually lower than the average among everyone for those who are activily looking. And to agree with *Omega-WereWolf, companies like Microsoft have quite a few openings that they do want to fill for their Redmond, Washington area. Also looking at the seniors who have just graduated from my college, which is by no means MIT among colleges but not a DeVry, all of them have gotten jobs that they like so far (one only posting on Facebook of how much he loves his job.)
So seeing how I somehow walked into an industry that is hiring like mad, my sister on a similar boat as me but with an industry that just has a scarcity of possible workers versus booming, and a friend who only went to a technical school for 2 years and still found a job, I'm kind of left wondering exactly how the unemployement is broken up overall among education levels, what kind of education, and where. Does it still hold that since everyone these days are getting a college education that you should as well just so you are about the same intelligence as the other person? Is the unemployement or under-employement lingering because there are a English majors in an area that doesn't see a lot of immigrants or has that many schools? Is some of the unemployement because the now available jobs are on the other side of the country for those who have settled down with a family before the jobs dried up there? Is there really not enough jobs? Or is there something else?
This nag doesn't like to go away as the news media as a whole usually only talks about unemployement as a whole, as if computer programmers have the same issues as female elementry teachers*.
*Something I can't confirmed, but supposibly schools are more willing to hire a male teacher over a female due because there are almost no men teaching in elementry school.
Probably, considering those kinds of jobs are in higher demand due to the nature of the economy and where society likes to place resources. Though it is still probable that non-technical or math heavy fields could be easy to get a job in if an area has a lot of positions to fill and not enough people who can and will do the job. For example, there might be a nowhere town with nothing there that is getting a lot of tourists so the demand of chefs for new, nicer restaurants. If no one in town is a very good cook and no one wants to learn, a person who has been trained to be a chef can move into the town and easily get a job when it might be impossible in other cities with plentys of chefs, like New York City.
So it is possible that a good chunk of the problem is people studying for something that society doesn't need and is hard to translate into something else.
1) certifications - completely useless training (that costs money many people don't have right now) for a piece of paper that is required for many jobs right now.
2) commodification of the individual - you are not a person; you are a collection of data points. if your overall compatibility score aggregate clusterfuck is outside one standard deviation of the mean (i'm guessing) you don't get an interview.
Certifications(and by extension, licenses) are certainly useful in in a number of areas. They also provide a recourse system if those people happen to screw up, that license has a number, you can track the person associated with it, ect..
But I agree that there are a number of "data entry certifications" that require you to attend a specific school at a specific time(that is usually right in the middle of whatever shit job you already have) and cost a couple hundred dollars, and then you have to take upkeep courses which cost more money.
i was thinking mainly of the IT realm. lots of Microsoft certs, which are just an excuse to make people money. i actually have a certification as a nursing assistant (expired), and i agree stuff like that is generally important.
1. There has to be openings within your skillset to apply to begin with. Anything from being trapped in the wrong area for your skillset because you don't have the thousands of dollars needed to move somewhere that would match better (if your lower-class momma gave birth to a great <x> in a region where <x> has almost no use, sucks so much to be you), to many of the jobs you would be suited for being ones listed only internally and you not knowing anyone who can give you an in (70% of jobs are found via networking, which means someone who is skilled and capable yet has no network usable for job searching is more or less boned), can produce problems here.
2. Your resume has to get noticed. And even something as small and impossible to know beforehand as putting the job titles for each previous job in the wrong spot before or after the company's name, so that the keyword scanner of the company you're applying to doesn't properly scan your resume, can get your resume never seen.
3. The company has to not discriminate against you for reasons unrelated to your ability to do the job. Like passing you over because you've been unemployed too long even though you had a good reason (like an illness or injury, or, oh, nobody giving you a job because you've been unemployed too long), or too many jobs because all you could find was temporary work, or requiring a degree for a job with zero job requirements that require a degree, and so on.
4. If you actually get the interview, you have to nail it perfectly. And as anyone who's been job searching lately will tell you, this is difficult due to there being a crapload of different questioning tactics hiring managers employ. Anyone who's an introvert or otherwise not a natural socialite might as well give up now, even if the actual job would require less social skills.
5. And even you nail the interview, you might still lose the job because the interviewer just liked another applicant's hair better, or they decided to fill the job internally at the last minute, or such.
The end result of all of this is that currently 42.8% of unemployed people have been unemployed for 27 or more weeks. [link] These people are ready, willing, and able to work, (since the official counts are people who are actively looking for work) but issues with "playing the game" are keeping them from being able to do so.
Meanwhile, many other people are underemployed or misemployed, stuck in poor jobs that either waste their skills or are a mismatch for them, because that's what "the game" left them with.
So the question is: What can we do about this? We can create jobs until the cows come home--and should do so, for that matter--but if we're falling down on getting unemployed people into those jobs then it's not going to help much. And the fact that more than 40% of unemployed people are long-term unemployed tells me that yes, we are definitely failing miserably in getting the people who most need/want jobs actually into them.
And under- and misemployed people end up both wasting potential productivity, and blocking those jobs from people who would be better suited to them.
And even those who manage to successfully navigate The Game, it can still take weeks or even months to do so. I feel like there has to be a more efficient and less wasteful way to get people into jobs.
Now, I know by this point some of you are rolling your eyes and pfffting and not giving a shit, because "not everyone is entitled to a job", or "it's their own fault if they can't play the game", or something like that. To which I say, use your fucking brains for once. Every person who is ready, willing, and able to work yet unable to get a job to hire them due to "the game", is a person who is draining unemployment, welfare, or other public assistance budgets when they could be self-supporting and paying taxes instead. People who are underemployed also often need to rely on one form of assistance or another. If you genuinely want to cut government spending, then you support trying to find realistic ways to get these un- and underemployed people into good jobs.
And of course, like I said, there's the loss in productivity to society caused by people's skills going wasted or someone trying to do a job they're ill suited for. Which is why "well, they can just get a burger-flipping job" to an unemployed college-trained person is also a pointless argument, as it both wastes the skills of the college trained person and blocks someone without a lot of skills from being able to get a job because the college student is currently stuck filling the unskilled job that would otherwise serve as a viable opportunity for the unskilled worker.