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America, drowning in debt

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Right now, America is more than $15.7 Trillion dollars in debt. That's $15,700,000,000,000. Each citizen's stake in that debt is approximately $50,000. And that's if you include the retired and babies. If it's just tax-payers, then it's about $120,000. This is a bad thing. Because that debt is costing America more than $241 billion a year.

Think about that, $241 billion that could have gone to do good, instead simply goes to servicing the debt. In essence, evaporating from the useful economy.

How much is $241 billion? Let me put it this way, with that money you could fund the discretionary funding of the following Departments (2012 budgets):

- NASA: 18 billion.
- Environmental protection agency: 10 billion.
- National Science Foundation: 7 billion
- Department of Commerce: 11 billion
- Department of Labour: 13 billion
- Department of Justice: 24 billion
- Department of Energy: 42 billion
- Department of Agriculture: 27 billion
- Small Business Administration: 1 billion
- Corporation for National and Community service: 1 billion
- Department of the interior: 13 billion
- Department of the Treasury: 14 billion
- Department of Homeland security: 46 billion

And that still leaves $20 billion to spare. You can blame Bush, you can blame Obama, you can Blame Clinton, you can blame the first Bush. The truth is that they're all guilty. US public debt was flat since World War two before exploding in the 80s, and it hasn't let up. This isn't a problem of politicians but of the people who elect them, whether Republican or Democrat, both parties supporters were happy to keep supporting a party that spent them into the ground without a thought for the consequences.

The only question is how long you can keep going as the cost of servicing that debt grows and grows. Paying off this debt is going to take generations. And maybe that's what it's about: generations. This is a problem that the generations in power now has caused by selling their own children and grandchildren's futures in the interest of feathering their own nests. Right now every new graduate comes out of university laden with debt, into an economy of low paid jobs to work to pay for healthcare and retirement of a generation that despite selling their children's futures still hasn't managed to put anything away.

I'm not sure what the point of discussion here is, I don't see any solutions (though I'd love to hear any ideas). Frankly I'm just disgusted and pissed off by the stupid selfish short sighted thinking that got us into this mess.
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~skulkey May 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
People who think that we can eliminate the deficit simply through cutting or taxing are mistaken.

i daresay more than mistaken... but yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
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:icontheredsnifit:
I could have used more derogatory terms there, but I generally try to avoid going that route.

Well, most of the time, anyways.
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:iconmeanus:
here is how we get out of debt
1. promote gay marriage
2. buy contraception for everyone
3. run all industry out of the country
5. force all capital investment to go to china
6. Provide free abortions
7. Provide safe houses for pimps and their underage sex slaves
8. send Joe biden out to explain how poor guys like him are gonna get those awful rich people
9. Pay billions to rich bankers
10. Bail out the big Unions so GM can build plants in Mexico and China
11. Like my wife explained to me...you have to spend your way out of debt
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~mgonzales041090 May 29, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I don't think anyone actually believes you're married.
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:iconmeanus:
am I supposed to give a fuck what anybody thinks about me? What difference does it make to me what people think...I'm not their mother or Priest
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=Jeysie May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
...I come here and realize Defense already covered a fair bit of what I was going to say.

Basically, our deficit is due to three things:

1. The brilliant idea to run two expensive wars while cutting taxes.
2. A recession and high unemployment requiring more support payments than usual.
3. Exploding healthcare costs.

As a result, the only way to reduce it is:

1. Raise taxes on everyone who can still afford it.
2. Create enough living wage jobs for everyone.
3. Real healthcare reform aimed at lowering costs without leaving millions of people out to dry.

Because otherwise, it's like, even if spending is too high, what do you intend to do about it? Our infrastructure is already underfunded, outdated, and crumbling; our public services are underfunded, understaffed, and overworked; and too many people have no alternatives but to accept support payments right now. As a result, the only thing you could touch cut-wise without collapsing some aspect of the country is probably the military, but that alone isn't going to help much.

Also, I'm getting kind of tired of Obama being blamed for the debt. Yes, he had to increase spending to help get the country out of a fucking recession when the two usual tools--house equity and credit--were unavailable. What was the guy supposed to do, exactly? If Bush hadn't ballooned the deficit with tax cuts and costly wars, we'd currently be much less underwater. The tax cuts alone have cost us almost a trillion dollars over time.
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*Anobu May 29, 2012  Student General Artist
Obama almost lost to a convicted felon in Kentucky.That's how much people are fed up for not receiving any change after 12 years.
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=Jeysie May 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You mean all this change we haven't received? [link]
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*Anobu May 29, 2012  Student General Artist
Where's the "he created thousands of jobs". Where's the jobs?
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:iconmeanus:
despite record high unemployment any liberal will tell you Obama has created millions of jobs...yeah, I know, I don't get it either
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