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~ExplosionAnomaly
May 10, 2008, 5:47:23 PM
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May 10, 2008, 5:47:23 PM
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"Not anywhere as elegant as a walrus." - alternatis
"Please do not reply, I am sick of these pathetic responses after I have showed you again and again." - GlassArrowz
[link] - DA Religious Forum
Faith in Humanity: 280
~Daimanius
May 10, 2008, 6:09:08 PM
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*Eman333
May 10, 2008, 6:44:57 PM
Now I didn't even need to watch the video to know this sort of shit was going on.
This is pretty much how any religion works. Someone declares they have supernatural powers and are recieveing prophecy from the supreme creator of the universe, and hordes of gullible people believe it. It's no different from Islam or Christianity. It's just on a smaller scale.
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George Carlin 1937-2008
He's down there smiling up at us.
May 10, 2008, 6:44:57 PM
Now I didn't even need to watch the video to know this sort of shit was going on.
This is pretty much how any religion works. Someone declares they have supernatural powers and are recieveing prophecy from the supreme creator of the universe, and hordes of gullible people believe it. It's no different from Islam or Christianity. It's just on a smaller scale.
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George Carlin 1937-2008
He's down there smiling up at us.
~DeannaColeman
May 10, 2008, 6:45:36 PM
Poor kids.
May 10, 2008, 6:45:36 PM
Poor kids.
*Eman333
May 10, 2008, 6:59:29 PM
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May 10, 2008, 6:59:29 PM
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George Carlin 1937-2008
He's down there smiling up at us.
~GlassArrowz
May 10, 2008, 7:03:40 PM
This is pretty much how any religion works. Someone declares they have supernatural powers and are recieveing prophecy from the supreme creator of the universe, and hordes of gullible people believe it. It's no different from Islam or Christianity. It's just on a smaller scale.
The difference is, religion on a bigger scale has less power over its subjects. I can be a catholic and get an abortion. Its against the rules, and I shouldn't, but what power does the church have? They really aren't brainwashing here.
But still, hordes will believe anything.
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May 10, 2008, 7:03:40 PM
This is pretty much how any religion works. Someone declares they have supernatural powers and are recieveing prophecy from the supreme creator of the universe, and hordes of gullible people believe it. It's no different from Islam or Christianity. It's just on a smaller scale.
The difference is, religion on a bigger scale has less power over its subjects. I can be a catholic and get an abortion. Its against the rules, and I shouldn't, but what power does the church have? They really aren't brainwashing here.
But still, hordes will believe anything.
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DA political forum: [link]
DAPF Club: [link]
~MMartz
May 10, 2008, 7:19:10 PM
I am curious though...in the video it said that their predicted "end of the world" date was October 31, 2007 (interesting they'd use a major Pagan holiday-Festival of the Dead to conceive the end of the world). Well, that date has obviously come and gone, yet I don't recall hearing of any mass suicide amongst this cult.
Hmm....sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
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May 10, 2008, 7:19:10 PM
I am curious though...in the video it said that their predicted "end of the world" date was October 31, 2007 (interesting they'd use a major Pagan holiday-Festival of the Dead to conceive the end of the world). Well, that date has obviously come and gone, yet I don't recall hearing of any mass suicide amongst this cult.
Hmm....sounds like a bunch of bullshit.
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"I like to do all of the things that the censors won't pass" -Marilyn Monroe
*Eman333
May 10, 2008, 7:20:46 PM
You can bet if plain old vanilla brand Christianity were compressed down to the scale of this cult, it would be just as noticeably wacky.
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May 10, 2008, 7:20:46 PM
You can bet if plain old vanilla brand Christianity were compressed down to the scale of this cult, it would be just as noticeably wacky.
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George Carlin 1937-2008
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~Malkavius
May 10, 2008, 7:21:24 PM
I think one of the key differences is how cults isolate themselves from the rest of society. Legit religions dont do that.
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-C.S. Lewis
May 10, 2008, 7:21:24 PM
I think one of the key differences is how cults isolate themselves from the rest of society. Legit religions dont do that.
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"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.
-C.S. Lewis
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A recent documentary was (re) aired and can be viewed here [link] (that's part one of five)
The man leading this group claims to be the Christ and/or Michael (arch angel?). Either way, he claims with certainty that he is divinity and humanity combined, sent by God to deliver 'His' people at the end times (now).
What I've found most notable about these folks, is there LACK of disconnect from the outside world - quite the contrary. Now, 'cults 101' tells me this is one of the prerequisites for forming a good cult...cut off your flock from outside influence and information.
This group is quite tech savvy, have there own site, make elaborate videos, and regularly communicate via their site, blogs, and even youtube accounts. Does this make them any less a 'traditional' cult? Could it make them less dangerous (less prone to end up a lot of dead bodies) since they have this daily communication with outsiders? Or is it perhaps an ingenious recruitment tool?
Secondly, it would appear that all of the minors were finally removed as of a couple of weeks ago. With earlier allegations of a possible mass suicide, and the more recent allegations of child sexual abuse, few would argue this was a bad move (though if you do, please argue away!).
But, at what point does it become acceptable for the state to move in and stop the ADULTS from their practices if it does in fact appear to be moving toward a mass suicide? Is there ever a point when the state and its' laws trump religious freedom (suicide being against the law)?
I've found this a fascinating, if frightening case, and am currently in communications with one of the members. It's been a truly odd inside look.
Curious to hear your views on the goings on there, their modern tech-cult approach and where the boundaries of the state's power might lie?
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it's not the best day for digging . . .