The AIAA (Professional organization for Aerospace Engineers [link]) Executive Director Robert Dickman (ret. Major General USAF) testified before the US Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation that "At a funding level of only a fraction of a percent of the annual federal budget, NASA is being systematically starved."
He went on to testify:
"NASA is being forced to eliminate or severely reduce some very important work, to the detriment of critical aerospace research and development, and more broadly to the detriment of our aerospace strength and our industrial base. The Vision for Space Exploration was an aggressive, forward-looking proposal when offered by the President and endorsed by the Congress. However, while NASA has undertaken a positive exploration agenda, funding levels have not been at all sufficient to meet those goals.
... For example, research cuts since 2003 have reduced fundamental space-related life science and physical science research programs by 85%, affecting over 1,700 scientists and nearly 3,000 students. NASA is the sole steward of this research. If NASA doesn't do it, it won't get done at least not in this country. At the same time, China, Japan and other nations are continuing robust research in these areas, and those countries are poised to assume the scientific and technological leadership that we are letting slip away.
... In 1994 NASAs aeronautics budget was $1.54 billion. By FY07 the aeronautics budget was cut to $594 million. The FY09 budget reflects further cuts at $447 million.
... government investment in advanced launch concepts ... has dropped to nearly zero ... Absent investment in the truly breakthrough science and technology that would lead to revolutionary changes in space transportation, US access to space in 2040 will not look significantly different from 2020, or 2000, or 1980.
... Without NASA, this country would be a very, very different place now.
...In 2003, there were over 1,000 research projects focusing on basic non-exploration space physical and life sciences across the United States, which supported over 1,500 scientists, and over 3,000 students. Today, only five years later, there are 85 such research projects, supporting approximately 300 students. This is a decrease of 90%.
... - We are not doing the work we should be doing in basic aeronautical research and development ... for education ... for life sciences ... for space sciences ... for solar science. - And we are not going to be able to succeed at the exploration program with the budget weve got. ======================================================= AIAA 07 May 2008 Public Testimony: [link]
I know several of us have set up arguments for NASA and their appalling lack of funding, but here you have evidence of it. 90% decrease in aeronautical research, 85% decrease in life & physical science research.
Why? Because NASA is forces to redirect all nonessential funding to a white-elephant program the Bush Administration placed on NASA with a frozen budget. That was years ago. And yet once NASA's budget was unfrozen the funding still hasn't come.
NASA is synonymous with America's Technological prowess and wellbeing and neither Senator's Clinton, Obama, or McCain have any plans to revive it. What are your thoughts: -With regard to the upcoming elections? -With regard to China and India's rising technical prowess? -With regard to politics in general?
I'm actually starting to wonder if the space program should be moved to the private sector. It's not so much a national effort like it was in the 60s and 70s.
I think they'd get better funding from private enterprise than distracted bureaucrats.
NASA fulfills a need for unconstrained research. Without NASA the only aerospace research would be toward products and we'd miss out on a huge number of advancements. Product R&D is important, but those stay as company secrets. General R&D is released to the public and advances the technical state of the art for everything. That's something the private sector can't replace.
The cutting edge of Manned Spaceflight will always be a General R&D Problem and until it's reliable, cheap and safe, it won't make it into the Product R&D stage.
It's sad, it really is. America as a country really needs to get it's head out of it's ass as far as what it's spending money on. We could do a whole lot better, but the fact of the matter is, we simply don't care or aren't trying. The kind of fundamental change required to fix things is so beyond the aspects of governmental power, it's a question of social change completely. Nothing will change with more funding, the only thing that can save the nation, save our prestige, save what's left of our image, save our children, secure our future, and ensure the kind of America that will once again shine as a symbol of what people can be if they try, is giving a shit.
Once we've got that down, it's a hellish uphill battle for the rest of time, and then all that matters is never giving up.
The world still looks up to us, though they may say otherwise, they say it 'cause they care. They sit here and look at America and go: "Hey America, what's wrong? You used to be cool."
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The world still looks up to us, though they may say otherwise, they say it 'cause they care. They sit here and look at America and go: "Hey America, what's wrong? You used to be cool."
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All they need to do is convince the Pres that them pesky Martians have a stockpile of weapons of mass destruction, with the ability to deploy big metal tri-pods in thirty seconds.
Watch the funds roll in.
On a serious note; NASA have done some incredible things. They fire the imagination and that's wonderful.
Tell the world the Stargate program is based on actual events and that they need more money. If certain people believed the War Of The Worlds radio broadcast, theirs a good chance some people will increase their contributions.
Would you have the private sec make their findings public, or does that mean if they discovered something of value they would be able to monopolise it?
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He went on to testify:
"NASA is being forced to eliminate or severely reduce some very important work, to the detriment of critical aerospace research and development, and more broadly to the detriment of our aerospace strength and our industrial base. The Vision for Space Exploration was an aggressive, forward-looking proposal when offered by the President and endorsed by the Congress. However, while NASA has undertaken a positive exploration agenda, funding levels have not been at all sufficient to meet those goals.
... For example, research cuts since 2003 have reduced fundamental space-related life science and physical science research programs by 85%, affecting over 1,700 scientists and nearly 3,000 students. NASA is the sole steward of this research. If NASA doesn't do it, it won't get done at least not in this country. At the same time, China, Japan and other nations are continuing robust research in these areas, and those countries are poised to assume the scientific and technological leadership that we are letting slip away.
... In 1994 NASAs aeronautics budget was $1.54 billion. By FY07 the aeronautics budget was cut to $594 million. The FY09 budget reflects further cuts at $447 million.
... government investment in advanced launch concepts ... has dropped to nearly zero ... Absent investment in the truly breakthrough science and technology that would lead to revolutionary changes in space transportation, US access to space in 2040 will not look significantly different from 2020, or 2000, or 1980.
... Without NASA, this country would be a very, very different place now.
...In 2003, there were over 1,000 research projects focusing on basic non-exploration space physical and life sciences across the United States, which supported over 1,500 scientists, and over 3,000 students. Today, only five years later, there are 85 such research projects, supporting approximately 300 students. This is a decrease of 90%.
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- We are not doing the work we should be doing in basic aeronautical research and development ... for education ... for life sciences ... for space sciences ... for solar science.
- And we are not going to be able to succeed at the exploration program with the budget weve got.
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AIAA 07 May 2008 Public Testimony: [link]
I know several of us have set up arguments for NASA and their appalling lack of funding, but here you have evidence of it. 90% decrease in aeronautical research, 85% decrease in life & physical science research.
Why? Because NASA is forces to redirect all nonessential funding to a white-elephant program the Bush Administration placed on NASA with a frozen budget. That was years ago. And yet once NASA's budget was unfrozen the funding still hasn't come.
NASA is synonymous with America's Technological prowess and wellbeing and neither Senator's Clinton, Obama, or McCain have any plans to revive it. What are your thoughts:
-With regard to the upcoming elections?
-With regard to China and India's rising technical prowess?
-With regard to politics in general?
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