Possible to be both Athiest and Anti thiest?
Ok, before you comment, keep in mind this is only about chosing betweeen the concept Athiesm and/or Anti theism in general.
I had a discussion with a few people that claim a person can be an Atheist (someone who doesn't believe in deities), and an anti theist (someone who opposes religion.)
It sounds redundant to me to do both. Some athiests don't like the idea of opposing religion, some do.
Thoughts?
I had a discussion with a few people that claim a person can be an Atheist (someone who doesn't believe in deities), and an anti theist (someone who opposes religion.)
It sounds redundant to me to do both. Some athiests don't like the idea of opposing religion, some do.
Thoughts?
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Antitheism implies atheism.
It's possible to be an agnostic and an anti-theist.
There's one on here but I forget his name
There's one on here but I forget his name
McLandis?
I always seem to argue with him. Every time I see that fucking south park grin in the avatar corner I have nightmares.
I always seem to argue with him. Every time I see that fucking south park grin in the avatar corner I have nightmares.
Oh, I see that.
I'm actually a misotheist. I think God is cruel, and undeserving of our worship.
Cruel, how? Please justify.
Well actually ever thought that there was a ruler of earth?
What, you mean like the President of the United States?
Anti-theist = Against holding the belief that god exists
Atheist=A position which is basically the lack of an affirmative belief in the existence of god.
Anti-theistic is not the same thing as anti-religious as anti-religious=Against religions in general.
Against holding the belief that god exists =/= Against religions in general
Thus, Anti-theist=/=Anti-religious
It seems that it's mandatory to be an atheist if one were to be an anti-theist as evidenced by the fact that a person who supports anti-theism must be against holding the belief that god exists. So therefore, it is possible to be an atheist while being an anti-theist.
Atheist=A position which is basically the lack of an affirmative belief in the existence of god.
Anti-theistic is not the same thing as anti-religious as anti-religious=Against religions in general.
Against holding the belief that god exists =/= Against religions in general
Thus, Anti-theist=/=Anti-religious
It seems that it's mandatory to be an atheist if one were to be an anti-theist as evidenced by the fact that a person who supports anti-theism must be against holding the belief that god exists. So therefore, it is possible to be an atheist while being an anti-theist.
Stating one is both anti-theist and atheist is a bit useless, because you can't exactly be anti-theist without being atheist as well. Meanwhile being atheist does absolutely not mean being anti-theist.
I see.
I think you have to be an atheist in order to be an anti-theist. Atheism is merely not believing in god. Anti-theism is hostility towards religion in general - you reject the general idea of religion, not necessarily a specific one.
think of atheism as a subset of worldviews (religion would be another subset). now atheism itself has a subset called antitheism. atheism actually has an intersecting set called spirituality (i.e. it is possible to not believe in god(s) and still believe in spirit). but the antitheist subset does not intersect with spirituality, and is generally opposed to it.
Very interesting.
Religious or non-religious, you can still be an asshole.
Yeah.
from a recent forum discussion on the definition of atheist i found out there are basically two types of theist and two type of atheist as follows.
- Gnostic-Theist (Theist): I KNOW there is a God/gods.
- Agnostic-Theist: I won't pretend to KNOW, but I BELIEVE there is a God/gods.
- Agnostic-Atheist (Atheist): I won't pretend to KNOW there isn't a God/gods, but I haven't seen sufficient evidence to accept any God/gods [i.e, I have lack of belief in a God/gods].
- Gnostic-Atheist: I KNOW there are NO God/gods.
I believe for most part we fall under the "agnostic" category unless one is some sort of fundamentalist / extremist. more from this article "atheism: understanding a lack of belief" at this link www.lackofbelief.com/.
Wow. Nice analysis.
yep. i don't know who wrote. i found it by google search. i think it shows that some of the arguments we have in these forums is that we don't clearly identify from what position we argue from. also sometimes we swing unknowingly from agnostic into the more dangerous and unprovable realm of gnostic. i say dangerous because in the gnostic realm one risks a closed mind mentality of "guilty until proven innocent".
Wow, guilt until proven innocent? Today's society's mentality is like that.