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Does religion make children of men?

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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Are the meek a blessing or a curse?
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Saeter Featured By Owner Feb 14, 2013
Be like a child [link]
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
If I get my hands on them they are either slaves or dead. Who am I?
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Iriastar Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Meek people have as many negative and positive qualities as the ones who aren't meek. Power is overestimated in our society, leaving kindness and other feminine qualities in a state of underestimation.
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KillianSeraphim Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student General Artist
What does meekness have to do with maturity?
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Depends, religion, as in the cult type attitude, people must do certain things to be praised, perhaps, but faith, that personal belief, I don't see why.

There is a quote that kind of, makes sense.

You can either live thinking nothing is a miracle, or everything is.

So, what is the harm in embracing the world, I'm not religious, but it would be damn nice not to be terrified of dying.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I like the quote, it tempers my attitude a little.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Me too, its suited for either super positive people or negative. I'm a positive person, I may not see it as a "miracle" per say, but I do see the world in wonders :)
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LudwigvanKickass2 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
The meek shall inherit the Earth, but the poor shall inherit the debt.
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ryan1147 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
who cares you gotta catch 'em all!
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macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
well atheism doesnt make men of children, if nothing else i'm suprised that you dont find the meek good for your ego.

I'm like that with atheism, no matter how bad things might get i know i will never be as badly off as atheists. I like the meek, theyre generally more supportive.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The meek are good for nothing.
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist
God says, the meek shall inherit the earth.

"When God arose to judgment, to save all the meek of the earth. Psalm 76:9."
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So God prefers children to men, that sounds about right.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I dont see any harm with the meek.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
In Australia, we talk about the tyranny of distance. It applies in ethics as well as economics.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Understanding weakness is very important. i dont know what tyranny of distance is.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Distance is weakness.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
distance is freedom,
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Distance is isolation.
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think its the other way around: manchildren use religion as a crutch to act badly. If they couldn't use religion they would probably take the more modern excuses instead like they have assburgerz or *insert mental illness they almost certainly don't have*.

For the record I am not saying all religious people are manchildren because someone is going interpret that as such just so they can yell at me, I'm saying a lot of immature pussies use religion as an excuse to bully and oppress other human beings even if in the context of their religion what they're doing is a sin. That's the wonders of picking and choosing what verses of the Bible "still count".
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So pogroms are just bad?!
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
pogroms? I've never heard of that word before *checks dictionary.com*


pogrom (ˈpɒɡrəm)

— n
an organized persecution or extermination of an ethnic group, esp of Jews.


I'm pretty sure that's a little bit further then "just bad" :stare:. I'm not sure why you're bringing that up since we were more discussing if its religion that makes people bad or just bad people that use religion as an excuse to be bad but I guess its kinda relevant. So yes, pogroms are really really really really really bad, you shouldn't exterminate or persecute anyone especially not just because of their ethnic background. That's absolutely horrible.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Then, does evil exist; and if not, why not?
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Evil and being a dick are two different things. There is logic against murdering the shit out of each other unless you're one of those nihilist types that thinks existence in itself is pointless in which case I'm really not even going to bother trying to explain why its detrimental for a social species to randomly kill off perfectly good members of its species on the basis they're slightly different.

But if don't subscribe to that stuff then simply put its illogical for a heavily social species to actively kill members of its kind unless they're existence is detrimental. Pogroms would be logical in the past when humans were tribal and resources were a lot more limited but in modern times humans no longer have that excuse. Now its just humans being paranoid and short sighted that causes that kind of behavior which is why as a species were generally appalled by it and call it "evil" as we don't really understand the concepts certain things can be wrong without attaching religious black and white morals to them.

Even if I can't prove there's some higher purpose to this I go by I want humans to succeed so I based my understanding of what's good and what's bad on that concept rather than any religious black and white morals. Its obviously not always easy to identify what's best for humanity, you can always be wrong, but ya gotta at least try... well at least if you care about the continuation and success of humanity. If you don't then do whatever?

Really I can't make you not go on the murder spree, same with every human outside myself, I can only recommend against it and give a few reasons why you shouldn't do it. Its really up to you what you do with your life. I try to avoid hypocrisy when possible so I'm not going to be like a religious person and tell you what to believe.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The past is strange but too strange as to be alien.
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
A bit yeah.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
like using oil as an excuse to privatize 60% of a countrys assets and holdings while they had oil right in the sea next to them
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
in risk of sounding ignorant exactly what are you referencing? o.o this seems only very vaguely attached to what I said.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
you said people use the excuse of religion to act badly. and i said people also use the excuse of economical decline to act badly. its supposed to be supporting your claim.
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, alright. This is true as well.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Religion promotes very simplistic thinking. It tries to turn every decision into a black or white one where one choice is completely good and the other completely bad. It promotes blind obedience and blind acceptance of authority. In that sense it trains the majoirty to be meek sheep. For most people being compared to a sheep would be an insult but various religious people don't have any problem with being called a flock.
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Trampire Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
You mean the Movie? I think it was cool!!!
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013   Digital Artist
No, P. D. James wrote it.
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Lupina24 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think the meek are a blessing rather than a curse. The meek are more responsive to being a conduit to take action I guess. Meek means submissive, humble or gentle (kind, easy to teach) which are good qualities to adapt leadership values to. A proud person however often have prejudiced themselves to be qualified and set their standards for or against a purpose or considers a situation 'not their concern'.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So should we all be sheep?!
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:iconlupina24:
Lupina24 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
no. I think we should be willing to learn, act and adjust ourselves to what the situation needs us for.
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kimsy2358 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
They are fun to rape, nuff said.
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neurotype Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Depends on whether or not the circumcision goes as planned. D:
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
If so, then kudos to them. That's one of the best movies ever made.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
True.
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Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
*Insert atheistic rhetoric*

*Insert Christian rhetoric*

(*Insert rebuttal*)
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
*insert pompous Muslim interjection*

*insert jewish silence*

*insert crappy insert joke*

*insert smartass reversal joke*

*insert spiral into madness*

*insert coin*
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Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
GAME OVER
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alzebetha Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Since when can Christians argue?
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Rhetoric doesn't imply a valid argument. :B
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alzebetha Featured By Owner Feb 13, 2013
hmnn accepted.
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mondu Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Christian rhetoric? In DA?
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
Yes. Welcome to dA.
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alzebetha Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013
ZING!
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GalacticGoat Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
*insert completely irrelevant plz account*
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