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January 23, 2013
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Coexist the Interconnection through Networking

:iconmnemothra:
I made this post because I would genuinely like to meet Deviant Members on here, who'd be open to willingly share their spiritual selves and insight on Life and their perspective on reality. Serious and honestly natural unique people. I want to get to know new people. New minds, eccentric thinkers, not afraid to conceptualize outside the box.

My name is Mark. 26 years old. I'm a Pantheist. An Eclectic Pagan, part Buddhist, Self-Spiritualist, Living being with so many other beliefs as well. Anyone wanting to meet on here learn from one another, each other and get to know others like me whom are like-minded as well, feel very welcomed to respond. You're not alone.

**Anyone who reads this is also welcomed to go to my profile and hit me up on my "Shoutbox". Anyone whom is a Philosophical Free thinker, open minded, Spiritualist, Pagans, Wiccans, Satanists, Buddhists, etc**

Introduce yourself to me. i will reply back. Tell me your interests and what things you believe to be YOUR OWN TRUTH. Tell me your hobbies, type of music you listen to, things you appreciate doing in life, occupation.. anything you'd like to say honestly. Anything goes. Even a simple "Hi!", it's a nascent to initiate and converse.

"As we Learn in reality, experiences with people are Man-made. Interacting is part aspect of evolving."~Me

Namaste~Peace~And Blessed be.

~Mark (Mnemothra)
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:iconvomitbear:
I thought the title meant we were talking about lesbians.......
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Jan 23, 2013  Professional Photographer
You’re probably thinking of scissoring. A reasonable mistake.
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:iconstr8edgeang3l:
I'm not sure what I believe. I got to a fairly orthodox Catholic school, yet half my family is atheist, and a member of my family is any religion but Catholic. I deffinitely believe there is nothing wrong with being LGBT or a female priest. However, I'm struggling with whether I believe in God. I genuinely don't know. I also don't know whether I want to have an opinion.
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:iconlytrigian:
Lytrigian Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Truth *is* absolute. Or rather, our understanding either approaches objective reality or it doesn't. You may like to argue that spiritual truths are different, but there's no real reason for that other than the fact that there exists a plurality of opinion.

However, that puts you on the wrong side of history. Galileo was right. The Church was wrong. The heavens *are* just like the earth. There do not exist different laws for "celestial" things than "terrestrial", and these are in fact just anthropocentric categories created by our own point of view. Both are really the same. Both obey the same laws.

Modern "spiritual" thinkers make the mistake of generalizing not from the side in that conflict that was proven right in the long run, but from the side that was proven wrong. They say: "Spiritual" things are NOT just like "material". Rules of logic that apply here do NOT apply there. Two contradictory propositions CAN be simultaneously true.

Trouble is, this is nonsense. If it's right then everything is true, which is the same as if everything were false. It's not useful and cannot correspond to anything real.

Dogma arises when we apply rules of real-world logic to spiritual matters. Is dogma a bad thing? Only if we disagree with it. If we agree with it then it's a good thing, only we resist applying the label if we've already been trained to think of it as bad. That doesn't make it any less dogmatic. And if the rules of real-world logic are applied correctly, then dogma can really only be false if our starting premises are false. And thus you ultimately have to return to who has a true revelation, since in spiritual things revelation is where all this comes from. If you feel you have a PERSONAL revelation -- you'd probably label it "insight" -- that doesn't absolve you from the need to think about it rationally if you're going to say anything at all about it that you expect to make sense to anyone else.
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KlaxonLithology Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
So, then, pretty much everybody agrees with me that Unitarianism and Pantheism are fundamentally flawed by concept.
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:iconlytrigian:
Lytrigian Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The Universalist aspect of Unitiarian-Universalist thinking, anyway. Unitarinanism in essence is nothing more than a radical anti-trinitarianism. It's when it also became Universalist that it turned soft in the head, so to speak.

I don't think pantheism is either here or there in this discussion, as to me it's one of those things that either is or isn't and assigns definite attributes to the divine as well as asserting that the divine lacks certain attributes such as personhood.
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:iconmnemothra:
You miss my concept of what I'm doing here. I never meant to say Truth as in answers or fact. I meant what others views are and what they believe in. I AM NOT HERE TO DEBATE w anyone. Nor will I.

I just want to connect Spiritually to people that want to relate with me. I'm not doing any of this out of pure ego. It's all as honesty.

I sense that I've automatically offended you in some way. I don't understand how? When I meant by "YOUR OWN TRUTH". I meant exactly "that" to the individualist him/herself. If this is hurtful or came off the wrong way. Then you misunderstood me. There is a significant difference.
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KlaxonLithology Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
This is a forum 'for all your religious and philosophical debates'. Says so right underneath 'Philosophy and Religion' in the forum title. Debate is what this forum exists for. You don't come here advertising your shoutbox as some kind of coexistence domain or saying you want to meet like-minded people. You come here to argue with people about questions that cannot be answered definitively.
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:iconlytrigian:
Lytrigian Jan 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I just gave you my views, and you're complaining. I'm not offended, nor did I give even a shadow of a hint that I might even remotely be so. Is it that you only want to hear views that mesh with a certain worldview?
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