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Is philosophy a waste of time?

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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well, is it?
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chirohito Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that was a philosophical question itself. haha. not really...
i dont think it is.
what is the purpose of life?
why?
when?
universe?
pudding?
think about it, humans always look for shortcuts or easy stuff right? they never use uneccassary work or thinking, its all just pointless. so why has philosophy survived throughout the centuries? humans are very curious beings.
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SSPirate Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yes
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chirohito Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
no
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Debit Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think philosophy can be a waste of time if all one cares about is to pick up a bunch of quotes from well-known philosophers to superficially impress others.

The deeper part op philosophy delves into questions about life, ranging from sciences to social contracts. The grueling job involves laying out one's train of thoughts out in the open then trying to piece together something coherent, whether it be a belief system or a scientific method. So. if one is willing to take time and energy for this grueling task, then philosophy is not a waste of time.

Philosophy is not as easy as it appears.
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LucemFerre1776 Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
as with everything else, it depends on the circumstances... for someone who is materialistic and spends thier whole life chasing "things" then yeah, i would say that philosophy would be a waste of time for them... but on the other hand, someone who is spiritual and spends thier life questioning and looking for the deeper meaning behind humanities purpose on this earth then i would say that philosophy is very important...
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AellaWalker Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Only as much as everything is a waste of time
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Nenril-Tf Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
depends on what you want...money?if you are good you can earn with it, a moral law?it is useful, try to understand the world?it can be. But as every over-construction it can or not be useful, but it is interesting and that's all.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Do I amuse you?
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Nenril-Tf Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
in which of your post?
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Doesn't the idea of waste (as something being fruitless in terms of advancing toward a destination) already assume a purpose, which thus suggests an implicit ontology?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Purpose is waste. I don't think so.
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VictorianExcentric Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If it ever stops being (a waste of time), run for cover.

Ever notice what happens when someone decides to lead a country based on definite ideologies, religious beliefs, philosophies...it ain't pretty.

VE.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
lol
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
No.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Why?
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
It might be a waste of time in particular situations, if it does not change or improve someone's ability to think about the world, or if it's used as an escape from life, or if it provides no practical application. But that doesn't mean that philosophy in the general sense is a waste of time. At the very least, saying so would be ignoring thousands of years of human culture. Or ignoring the basis of the sciences in philosophy.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Does philosophy have anything to say that is concrete?
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
Sure, it can refer to things that are concrete, though of course it is not by nature concrete. That is, it's not about building something useful in a concrete sense, like a chair or a table, but it can ask questions about why something is useful and what makes it so.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
What is useful?
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
That would be the next logical step, yes.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Is love useful to reason?
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staple-salad Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Philosophy did lead to modern science. And science is useful.
It also has bits of anthropology in it (as far as understanding how others see the world goes) which is very useful.
And it's nice brain exercise.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
It is said that logic is a "nice brain exercise", however cyclical argumentation concludes every exercise in logic, therefore logic defeats itself.
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SlimT Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
i don't see philosophy doing anything useful. to be honest i took a few advanced philosophy classes. all i learned was how to categorize different people with mental perspectives on the world, and apply a name to them.
But then it could be i'm just not one for overly complex disciplines.

either way it's useless to me.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
What is useful?
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SlimT Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
useful is something that can be put to reasonably productive use, i would guess.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Like science, perhaps.
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SlimT Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
spose so. but then science is actually very interesting to me. it's much less needlessly complex in general
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It was for me when we had to study that in high school.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
An education should not get in the way of thinking.
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I find it Ok when talking with a group of friends with drinks and the conversation turns out that way

But when you had two years mandatory of that in high school... ugh, specially when you failed it and the teacher could not tell you why... ugh
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Who did you study?
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SpaniardWithKnives Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Platon, Aristoteles, Nietzsche, Marx...

And extra head spinning shit that our crazy teacher added from his own mind. He appeared fueled by drugs too, lol
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
God, no wonder you were disencouraged. One, Plato is not a philosopher. Two, Nietzsche and Marx are hard pills to swallow. Three, Aristotle requires close reading. Plus, philosophy is not meant to bewilder, it is meant to enlighten.
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outsidelogic Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wait, Plato is (was) not a philosopher? Can you elaborate on that?
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Plato was a theologian.
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KittyTheNekoAlien Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wouldn't really think so. I could imagine if people really wanted it, we could get a philosophy team to determine what things were ethical once and for all, but the overly religious probably wouldn't like the answers >.>
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ethics are just public opinions. As Nietzsche would say, laziness.
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
If you do it in place of earning a living, forming relationships and tending to your personal hygiene, yes.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well, that writes off the cynics.
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:iconjuliabohemian:
Juliabohemian Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Yes, if only I were an optimist like you.
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theGman0 Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist
Sort of.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Maybe, perhaps.
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Iriastar Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
It's only a waste of time if you hoard knowledge without putting it to use.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly, but how do you use philosophy?
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Iriastar Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
"Philosophy" means love for knowledge, so... I don't think it'd be very hard to figure it out.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ontology and epistemology are not two different things. To be is to know thyself.
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thisismyboat Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Personal philosophy is what informs decisions. How someone views the world affects how they act in it, and it is one of the major driving force behind government decisions. Do you believe criminals are worthless and should be killed, or do you believe they're people who've made bad decisions and should be rehabilitated? Do you think all's fair in war, or do you think there should be limits to the kind of weapons used? Do you think people who use drugs are criminals who should be punished, or sick people with addictions that need treatment?

All rhetorical questions, but philosophy explores those kind of things regularly. How a government chooses to explore philosophy will impact the lives of those who live within it. On a smaller scale, your personal philosophy will impact how you interact with the world and others.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
THe personal is politics, would you say?
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
A waste of a person whose time is better spent than yours', maybe.
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