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Wut does thie dream mean?

:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Sup :D randomly found this on 4chan and i wonder if da can shed some light on the guy's dream?!?

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">last night go to sleep
>pulled into the spirit world and shown this:
Woman chanting(middle aged)
Seems to be either in real trance or religious self diluted trance(aka fake).
Chops her own right hand.
Other woman uses a bundle of bound sticks that are lit(smoking) to perform some sort of cleansing by smoke ritual on the severed hand(maybe also cooking it, not clear).
The woman that cut her own hand made another in it's stead with leafs as stuffing(can not tell what she used for skin, she is at the fingers having already done the palm...).
Wile making her "new" hand she is also covering with the same leafs a doll(mannikin?!?) that is sited and leaning on a tree. The doll is almost all covered in leaf.
The woman with one hand is crying wile doing this, felt a lot of despair from her.
The other woman was a bit sad, not sure they where in the right doing what they where doing.
I also felt other women watching.

ps: the doll is human sized made of wood and cloth apparently, not very well made at all. You can tell it's a wooden mane chin right of. It's wearing old clothes."

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:iconknightster:
Knightster Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
"The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Silly rabbit *pet pet pet*
Everything on 4chan is fact and one should govern one's life based upon it :3
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:iconknightster:
Knightster Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
All these years I have been deceived! :crying:
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Yes you have sir! And you have none other then me to thank for you're sudden realization \o/
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013   Digital Artist
You have to take into account the dreamer. Their associations to things is key to the representation. Also, depending on the person this could be more or less normal or trivial, it really depends on what is normal imagery and activity for the individual.
I could have a dream about hunting a white devil across multiple planes of existence, chasing him across several different dream spaces before running into someone that I knew lost in a maze; while they could be having a dream about being in a womb of light and watching pulsating balls of color bounce around, and it could be the same dream. And it was, true story.

It depends on how the individuals brain chooses to represent the common elements in the dream. Think of it like a rose is a rose by any other name but with abstract concepts. If I call a bear a bear and someone calls it an ursus, we both understand it to be the same thing. Likewise, in a dream what I may represent as an elevator moving between floors which are all their own separate universes, someone else my represent as a river, or a beam of white light.
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Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
"more or less normal or trivial" yea cause every one just loves to chop of their limbs off... :\
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siantjudas Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013   Digital Artist
If that's the kind of dream you always have it can be normal, just because that kind of dream isn't normal for you doesn't mean it isn't common for someone else.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The guy should get back to his culture, he is obviously spiritual at heart.
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:iconseth2012chaos:
seth2012chaos Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Seems like just a regular dream
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
What the... is this the sort of stuff you dream?!? In my book that is not at all regular :(
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seth2012chaos Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Not the same but I had quite similar dreams yea. I always have weird dreams, one of the weirdests I can remember was me dying, seeing heaven and hell and then talking to god and many more.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
Not sure you can really analyze a dream outside of individual context.  My tendency would be to ask what the person was feeling about what was going on.  Was there a sense of reverence or awe?  Or did they feel uncomfortable, scared?  This is obviously a female dominated magic ceremony/ritual, probably absorbed from references in the culture.  Dolls are not uncommon in these rituals and might be some kind of fetish or represent an individual.  Is the dreamer male?  The women might be anima figures.  A priestess or similar figure might be a particular archetype.  But again, it's important to draw out the relationship the dreamer has to these things to fully understand the dream.

My immediate impression in that the loss of the hands is important.  It's obviously a sacrifice for spiritual/religious purpose, not an uncommon theme.  But then we need to consider what a hand represents and what the significance of recreating a new hand might be.  Why does the other woman feel bad?  I'm not entirely sure what's going on.
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Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I would say uncomfortable\scared from the tread over on /x/
Yea, the dreamer is male, seen him there before.
anima figures =? what do you mean?
The dream revolved around the woman that cut her own hand.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
I mean anima in the Jungian sense, referring to a man's feminine aspect, i.e. [link]

If he was feeling fear or discomfort, then it might signal a Shadow element. The Shadow is usually some dark aspect of ourselves (or the culture) that we fear or hate and deny is part of us.

Again, not knowing anything about the dreamer personally, it's difficult to say what this all means. I don't believe that imagery in dreams is always some stock symbolism, that if you see a hand it means X. It needs to be read in context of the situation and the dreamer's own emotions, experience, and associations. Simply asking himself what each element means could lead to some further understanding.

I'm still curious what the doll might represent. Is it him? The woman? Or a more general archetype/idea? Additionally, what is the function of the doll in the ceremony? The doll is made of the same leaves as the sham hand. What is a doll but a sham human? Is this why the other woman is sad? This might be the key to reading the dream.
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Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
The /x/ tread 404 ed, but before that i fallowed it till the end, this is what i got so far:
Yes, he said in the dream he felt uneasy, fear.
He said the doll might have represented the woman(he did not sound sure do).
He did not know the function of the doll.
Yes, the leaves all came from the same pile, she would stuff some in the sham hand then in cover the doll with some. Repeat wile chanting something.
Hm... he felt despair from her. Maybe regret cause she cut her hand, maybe regret cause she felt the ritual would fail?!? Again he was not sure.
Guy seemed to witness the scene, did not take part. He also not only seen it, but felt some of the emotions of the ones present.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
Without the dreamer's input, anything I could offer is a best guess. If the doll represents the woman cutting off her hand, then I would venture that she's sacrificing parts of herself to become a false image of herself. The other woman might be sad because she feels this is in same way wrong. The dreamer could be feeling that as well.

But again, this is someone else's dream. Why are you so concerned about what it means?
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
"false image of herself" What would be the point in that?!?

Well... i am very curious. Some stuff randomly interest me, some which should, do not. Plus, it sounds like some sort of Wicca ritual. And if it really exist i wanna know what it is meant to do.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional General Artist
I don't know. It would be up to the dreamer to provide further context. I doubt that the dream refers to an actual ritual. It is more the idea of a magical ritual or the dreamer's unconscious drawing reference to various rituals that is important. It is possible btw that the dream is in reference to this: [link]
But again, dolls and the like appear in lots of different contexts, serving different purposes. So I wouldn't say it is Wiccan per se.
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
I am familiar with that wicker thingy... I will try and find an answer to this. If only for the original story :D
Thank you for the help *hugs*
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skulkey Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
anima is a Jungian term for a particular archetype. in short, a feminine figure in the subconscious of a male, that is said to hold the opposite personality traits to the individual. as a male you can learn quite a bit from conversing with your aninma.
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Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
hm... subconscious of a male?!? I was not aware we had one 0_o joking.
You mean talk to myself... that would be disturbing, and plus i am mean. I will end up just making myself sadness ;_;
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thesurrealisticMind Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Dreams are the personalized myth of the unconscious. We could interpret them as we see fit, but ultimately, it's up to the dreamer to decide whether the dream holds a meaning or not. :)
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:iconskulkey:
skulkey Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
smoke more krack.
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:iconelmida:
Elmida Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
You could also just let the people who do believe in this stuff reply.
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:iconskulkey:
skulkey Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
or maybe i've had this same dream while smoking krack.
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:iconelmida:
Elmida Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
It seems smoking crack also eats up your capitals.
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:iconskulkey:
skulkey Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
oooh, a wise-crack!
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:iconthegman0:
theGman0 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist
You crack me up.
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:iconelmida:
Elmida Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Well I figured that if you were going to be childish it was best to return your methods the same way.
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:iconskulkey:
skulkey Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
you missed the pun. or maybe you didn't and you just have no sense of humor...

did it occur to you that me responding to this thread (a copypasta from 4chan, of all places) in a non-serious manner in no way prevents someone from responding to this thread in a serious manner? people joke on threads that i take seriously - no skin off my back. you want to take this seriously, be my guest. just keep in mind its origin.
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:iconmihaihen:
Mihaihen Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
You have no idea what you're talking about. Sure 4chan is retarded 99% of the time. But this seems legit, even if it's not i still wanna know the sauce on it.
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:iconelmida:
Elmida Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
I just get a bit pissed off about all the "science rules and anyone who believes in other things is fucking retarded" people on this forum and this was looking like it was going in the same direction.
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