there is no son-murdering god in any other Abrahamic religion than christianity. what are you talking about?
this is the problem with pop-atheism\vauge-agnosticism. they think everything is christianity which had the misfortune of being the religion that was being employed while they have having their teenage angst tantrums
The reason that Christianity says to love other people is because we are imperfect and can change. Demons are fallen angels with supreme intellect and power who made an intelligent choice to oppose God (according to the Christian demonology) who will never change their mind back.
That's why loving demons is a waste of effort...according to Christian demonology.
But then again, maybe this whole of human history in which Satan is allowed to stir crap up with impunity is sort of like the situation in Job. God has faith in his follower, Satan thinks he can break him, and God goes, "Prove it" and gives him time to try.
I dunno, that's the only thing I could come up with off the top of my head
"Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit (Satan) that now worketh in the children of disobedience...Ephesians 2:2."
Satan is believed to be our original god by a lot of people. The only sin in Satanism i read is just being stupid. SUCH AS: Jumping off a house. asking for directions when ITS RIGHT THERE. (friend does this a lot. XD)
God made everything. So... If he made the all powerful light, he CAN and DID make the all powerful dark. So Satan isn't really evil. he's just looked at like that 99% of the time.
I've seen your reasoning, what I'm asking for is your sources.
Satan and his demons are the embodiment of sin. They want nothing more than to torment and destroy mankind, as we remind him of the One who cast him out, we are made in His image after all, even if that image is only a shadow due to our sinful nature.
Hate, in of itself, is not a sin.
By that reasoning, no God is sinless. He wouldn't be God otherwise.
The purpose of hell is to house Satan and his demons for punishment. As Jesus came to save man, not Satan, there is no redemption for them. Mankind has been called to be formed in God's image. Through Jesus, mankind can be transformed into that image. Without Jesus, it is impossible to achieve this. Thus, one could argue that heaven is for those who are God-like, and hell for those who aren't.
God's love is unconditional, but He isn't a pushover either. Look to Israel in the Old Testament for examples.
Sin isn't necessary for mental growth, but spiritual growth.
"As to the snake, God in Eden told you what it is. You should heed his words."
See, here is the thing, I take you, and your religion, and your religious works about as seriously as I take greek and roman mythology.
Its fun, its interesting, its been at the heart of great culture, and present along with great civilizations. In fact I'll even say both have inspired great minds.
You can also say the same about star wars, the matrix, Beowulf, Gilgamesh or other great works of fiction, contemporary or classical.
However, rationale minds don't take mythology at face value.
in your own deluded mind you think that somehow we are all being tricked by this fictional "satan" character, when the only trickster is a real flesh and blood frothing at the mouth lunatic.
you. You are making the enemy you with to fight later.
When you do it in an argument its called a strawman. When you do it too a group of people its called a provocaeuter.
You want the anarchists to be bomb throwers? get some of your own people to dress like anarchists and throw bombs.
You need Muslims terrorists? Recruit your own with freshly caught felons of unrelated crime, and drag in anyone so broke and desperate that $100k in cash for mass murder is an option. (along with the alternative of being fed, and housed in prison for the rest of your life)
So I guess when some fundies need to prove the rest of us are all tricked by satan, greatest-i-am comes along to dredge some up out of nowhere.
So if I am wrong, and your seriously turned off by the whole concept of god, why do you waste time quoting the bible. By doing as much as acknowledging the bible as unquestionable truth, you pin yourself as an adherent of the Christian faith, and the bible says Satan is wrong.
I did not mean "All Christians". Not all Christians are frothing at the mouth lunatic fundimentalists. In fact most aren't. In fact I think most Christians, as a whole are good upstanding moral people.
even many of the slightly more "conservative" ones aren't as derpish as the extremists, or their political mouthpieces.
Christian is also a very big group. So is the protestant subgroup.
You have episcopalians and methodists who tend to me more liberal.
you have the evangelicals and baptists who tend to me more conservative.
You have the catholics who are conservative on social issues, but progressive on fiscal issues.
Then of course there are the anabapist groups, all of which are strict pacificts.(quakers, luddites, etc..)
Nor are all "liberals" or "progressives" as dopey as every last yuppie corporate/social ladder climbing hypocrite, nor most anarchists bomb throwers, nor are most modern day socialists revolutionaries in any concept.
That said, most stereotypes have at least one living example somewhere.