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A Lesson In Religion

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nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
If humans wait till population doubles or triples and don't set a system to give animals and nature rights then every animal on Earth that survives will be under Humans dominion and the rest will be cursed to extinction. Sounds like a world full of demons to me.

A decent farm wont exist because it will be no longer efficient and only factory farms can be. The forests will be turned into agriculture to meet the growing demand for food.

The consumerist system needs some change now.
Satan's name means to consume in ancient Hebrew pictographs.

A good man takes care of his animals, but wicked men are cruel to theirs." Proverbs 12:10.

"The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it." (Genesis 2:15)

Jesus was born in a manger because he was born to take care of the animals.

"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me." John 10:14

God put animals in Eden where they are free not in a cage.

God does not control us. That is not the way of love, but gave us free will so that we can understand the beauty of freedom in the Garden for all creatures, not dominion over them but to protect them.

Jeremiah 2:7 - I brought you into a fertile land to eat its fruit and rich produce. But you came and defiled my land and made my inheritance detestable.

Ask yourself this. What is Heaven and what is hell?
God does not create hell only Heaven as we received from the start. Hell is something only we can create. In the ancient book of Adam and Eve, they were cast from the Garden when they desired to eat of the desires of flesh, clothed themself in animal hide and went into "The cave of treasures." look at your house stored with all its treasures.

Hell is like Plato's parable of the cave where everyone is chained in an illusion and suffer in eternal torment so that a few may live as gluttons and consume anything they wish.
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:iconseth2012chaos:
seth2012chaos Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe God would chain himself somewhere with greenpeace fellaz too sometime when he's pissed enough with human screwing the earth.
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:icondragonflae:
Dragonflae Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
So you're basically saying that we need to conserve the planet and its animals because the bible said so?
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macker33 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Its as good a reason as any
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
He should take it to a local church. Christians in general don't seem very environment-friendly.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
So chrianity is to blame for the hole in the ozone now?
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
I didn't say that. I meant that Christianity focuses more on the next life than this one,so many Christians don't put the health of the planet as top-priority.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
maybe, but they do tend to be conscientious.
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xTernal7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually, there won't be any such event as "doubling" or "tripling" of population as the population is expected to see a drop in a relatively short time. [link]


Satan's name means to consume in ancient Hebrew pictographs.
And Alduin (that wyvern you saw in Skyrim) is a world-eater. Hey, that makes sense!

"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me."
Term "sheep" refers to a group of people, who blindly follow things (e.g. religious people and iSheep).

God does not control us.
I can't really comprehend how an imaginary creature could control us either.

Ask yourself this. What is Heaven and what is hell?
Two imaginary places?

In the ancient book of Adam and Eve, they were cast from the Garden when they desired to eat of the desires of flesh, clothed themself in animal hide and went into "The cave of treasures." look at your house stored with all its treasures.
Oh, I've heard that tale too and I must disappoint you — you are incorrect on that one.
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:iconda1withdalongestname:
In the past, there has been civilizations who preserves or live accordingly to nature. They are destroyed by the expansionist & imperialist people then making everybody think that way of life is wrong. So it is wrong to blame humanity as a whole for destroying nature.

Heaven & hell is where you want them to be. Individuals have different perception on where they are.
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PippinTookoftheShire Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
All I heard was this:
Something overpopulation something animal cruelty.
Something something satan something gematria.
BibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBibleBible.
Something sounding philosophical.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I want to thank everyone for your helpful criticism and thoughts.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I am not responding anymore to questions. Have fun researching.
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:iconsmkiller:
Smkiller Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist
Oh, you're one of those now. Shame. I thought this was going to be interesting.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Me too.  I am disappoint.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I am not here to prove the scriptures but to correct them.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
You seem to intent on proving a particular interpretation/explanation of scripture. That's what exegesis is.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Well, that's frustrating.  :hmm:
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Satan's name means to consume in ancient Hebrew pictographs.
Huh?  I thought Satan meant "the opposer" or "adversary."  Where are you getting this?  Source plz?  Also, what ~Lytrigian said about Hebrew.

Otherwise, interesting exegesis.  How familiar are you with the ascetic Jewish and Gnostic sects of late antiquity?
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nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I do not learn from the scriptures. When I learned that Satan's name meant teeth after seeing 5 teeth in a mirror. I then looked at a dream archive to find that all who dream of teeth dream of Satan. I saw it in a dream and researched online to find it as truth in ancient hebrew pictographs. The way you and I find truth are different. Truth comes to those who knock, not by the words of a dead book but by the living truth of God.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
Also, you're making assumptions about the way I find truth.  And you never answered my question about your familiarity with ascetic Jewish and Gnostic sects of late antiquity.  Based on the OP, you might find them interesting, though little detail is known about some.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
Then why refer to that dead book at all?
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:iconxternal7:
xTernal7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I couldn't help but to notice that you made two replies on each of his comments.

If that was done on purpose, you're awesome.
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional General Artist
Haha, it wasn't intentional.  More that I thought of things to add after I'd already replied.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
the letter 'Hey' is intended to get one's attention. It's a picture of a man with raised arms, and it's meanings include 'look' or 'reveal' or 'breathe'. It also carries many associated meanings such as 'behold', and it can even mean 'praise'. The particular meaning that is used in each instance would depend entirely on the intended context, and yet they are closely related.

ShinThe second letter of 'haSatan' is really the first letter of his name, and it is the letter 'Shin', which the original Hebrew depicts as two front teeth. The meanings for this word include 'two' because of the two front teeth, but it also carries the meanings of 'sharp' or 'press' or 'eat/consume'. All of these meanings can be associated with teeth, and again, context determines which particular meaning is implied.

TetThe next letter of this name is the letter 'Tet', which in ancient times was depicted as a basket. This basket was a very understandable symbol for the meanings 'surround' or 'contain', because that is what baskets do. imprisonment is a related concept as well. However, it also carried the meaning 'mud', presumably because that is how mud was carried in the making of bricks. But it can also mean simply 'basket' or 'container'.

NunThe last pictographic letter in this name is the 'Nun', whose symbol was a seed. As you would imagine, the meanings of this letter are all associated with what results from seeds, and include 'continue' or 'heir' or 'son'. And as with all the other pictographs, it can also mean 'seed'.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
OK, what you're saying it not total BS, according to this website:  [link]

But there is also a warning, stating:
While the study of the pictographic script can sometimes yield insight into the underlying meaning (etymology) of Biblical Hebrew words, it is generally to be avoided as a stand-alone exegetical principle since this can lead to speculations and doubtful interpretations.

Of course, I know you won't respond, this is more for my own purposes of remembering.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional General Artist
Again, source plz? I've never seen any claims that the characters you refer to are pictographic. I'm willing to accept if you can actually point me to a reputable source backing this claim up. I do know that Hebrew characters also represent numeric values and each of these corresponds to a location on the Tree of Life, but these correspondences were probably not in place when the texts you cite were written.

What you're saying is all very interesting, but I put more stock into reputable scholarship than wild claims. No offense to you, it's just my inclination as a student of religion/spirituality.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Which literally means "To praise he that consumes the inheritance."
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
"To praise he that consumes and imprisons the inheritance." ****
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
:icontealdeerplz: If we don't follow your particular brand of religion we will automatically go to the place that your religion has deemed a detestable location for all eternity. Wow, mind blowing man. I've never heard that one before.

Also, how is this relevant to anything else? It's like you people just throw in random nonsense to confuse the weak minded.

"I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me." John 10:14
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I am not a christian........ ive said this 3 times already nor am I part of any religion.
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:iconaapis:
Aapis Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013
I didn't call you a Christian. :lol: Then again I already know that your types don't really like reading.

Or maybe you just don't understand what you're writing, because all of that is stuff from the Christian bible. So either you're in denial, or you're an idiot. Take your pick.
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:iconxternal7:
xTernal7 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
> If we don't follow your particular brand of religion or religious belief we will automatically go to the place that your religion has deemed a detestable location for all eternity. Wow, mind blowing man. I've never heard that one before.

Fixed.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
"Holding onto anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing at at someone else; you are the only one who gets burned."-Buddha
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:iconsolum-ipsum:
Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh, hey! Welcome to Kali Yuga. :D [link]

By the way, the Parabol of the Cave is an onthological example, and has to do more with spiritual enlightenment and transcendence to primordiality (and beyond).

Also, Satan means opponent or enemy. [link]
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I have responded concerning this many times. I am not trying to interpret Plato's meaning of this I am simply using this to explain the concept of which I am presenting.
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:iconsolum-ipsum:
Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I apologize. Also, I feel like emphasizing that I agree with your points.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
<3
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:iconiriastar:
Iriastar Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I don't see why so many people are getting butthurt at you. Even though you're speaking from a religious point of view, I don't find anything besides the religious references to disagree with.
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Thank you <3
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:iconiriastar:
Iriastar Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
No need to thank me. :shrug:
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:iconempiredice:
empiredice Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Well, that escalated quickly.
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:iconbohobella:
bohobella Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
God's an asshole for making pigs so delicious in the first place. A good God wouldn't tempt his children with a tree of knowledge and then say "But you can't have any".
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:iconnucleuzz:
nucleuzz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Speaking to a fool is like fighting with a skunk. In the end you will always stink.
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:iconbohobella:
bohobella Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
You think I'm a fool because your God is a huge asshole? Okay then. Cute.
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:iconlytrigian:
Lytrigian Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
The ancient Hebrews didn't write in pictographs. The apocrypha with all these stories about Adam and Eve are of late (as in AD) composition; the genuine Old Testament is more "ancient" by many centuries even if you happen to think the whole thing was written by Ezra. "Desires of the flesh" -- I'm taking your word for it without checking any of your source texts so I'm trusting you that it actually says that -- is not an ancient Hebrew idea. It's pure Christian asceticism.

So... are you going to set the example by getting rid of all your stuff? Practice first, then preach. Of course, since your "treasures" include your electronic toys, that would leave you without a computer, so that would make it hard to keep posting to online forums, but hey. At least you'll be doing the right thing.
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:iconvicsor-s3:
Vicsor-S3 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I stopped reading once I saw Bible verses.
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:iconkillianseraphim:
KillianSeraphim Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student General Artist
I'm not sure what the point of this post is supposed to be, but yes, God created both Heaven and Hell, and they are actual places. God gave Adam and Eve animal skins as clothing, and they were kicked out of Eden because they believed they weren't made in God's image, and God provided them with the animal skins as clothing.

Aside from the fact that several of the verses you mentioned are out of context, I reiterate, what exactly is the point you're trying to make?
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:iconself-epidemic:
Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
They are actual places?

Proof?

Other than linking me some bullshit verse from a book written by a bunch of men.
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:iconkillianseraphim:
KillianSeraphim Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student General Artist
In that case, I have nothing you would consider proof, because few people seem to be interested in events that can neither be proven or dis-proven, (Unless you want to wait a few more years for a two thousand year old prophecy to be fulfilled, but by then it would be a little late to do anything about it.) According to the text, in both Hebrew and Greek, both places are referred to as actual places, not states of society. If you want actual, physical, proof, you'll have to test the book, yourself. That's the way I did it.
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Self-Epidemic Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
So your proof is just belief, meaning its personal. Not truth.

As far as I'm aware hell was named hell after a pile of corpses of criminals were set a blaze, thus that name was born.

So yes, it may exist in technical on earth terminology. I wouldn't consider something ancient Greeks say as truth though, considering a very long time ago they didn't know the earth was round. If they can't get that right, how could they get the after life right?
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