god is everything, not some being trying to dominate us and keep us controlled, judging me whether i touch my prick at night or not... If people judge themselves and obey their own ignorance, then that action is part of "god". Ignorance itself is a necessary force, even if we usually view it as bad. God to me is life itself, progress, good and evil, space, time, infinity but to put in words would be an understatement, we are part of god and god is part of us. in reality there is nothing separate from itself, everything is one. Only through our ego and the way we are programmed do we see separations, labels.
but really i dont believe in free will, since we are basically a victim of our past, our environment and things that are much bigger and have a lot of influence on us, things that drives us day to day. but its a lie that makes us feel good, that makes us think we have some power, that some microscopic dust in the infinite cosmos is able to withstand the waves of winds and stay in place.
If freewill exist it would only be in a small percentage, but to have that small percentage you would have to change your lifestyle, your thinking patterns, overcome your human condition. basically its a waste of time even thinking about it, why cant we just live in the present and live our best without any need for justifications of what exists and what not
Well yes that is a possibility. However if we are not capable of free will and the God of the bible exists then we are not responsible for our actions and if there is free will and the God of the bible then we are still not deserving of eternal punishment for finite crimes.
A) An omniscient being knows everything it is possible to know B) An omnipotent being can do anything it wants C) An omnipotent being can grant a person (libertarian) free will D) A person with free will has dominion over their own future E) The future of such a person is unwritten F) It is not possible to know the future of a person with free will
A) God creates humankind, knowing they will sin B) God grants them free will, knowing they will sin C) God then determines the outcome D) God absolves himself of responsibility while still creating the entire situation E) Pontius Pilate was the true messiah
Yes, I understand that. However, a clairvoyant does not create time and space. God created the universe, with perfect understanding of that creation. The future course of the creation is thus dependent upon how God created it to begin with, as his creation includes its own future. Every particle of the universe has to interact with every other particle in the manner in which God created it. There is no element outside God's control. Even the choices that humans appear to make are simply a result of their own nature and the environment in which they exist, both of which were dictated by God when he created the universe.
Laws and principals supposedly made by that omnipotent power with the express purpose to behave that way.
But let's go back to your example. If someone can see into the future in a limited capacity, the prediction may be ultimately wrong. But if the person absolutely cannot be wrong, then the fortunes cannot choose against that fortune, even if they know of it. It's become pre-ordained. And you have no choice but to make that decision.
The free will you're thinking of doesn't exist, according to the Bible. Those within Christ have limited free will, much like children have limited free will under their parents, and those outside of Christ are slaves to sin, thus having no free will at all.
Free will is a copout argument that Christian apologists use to explain the existence of evil. A means to relieve God of any responsibility for the undue suffering on innocent people. Everything is our fault for not following God's orders. Which is funny because the very same apologists claim that God gave us free will so that we are not mindless robots but the only choice we are given is to do evil. So in the end God IS still responsible for evil.
Why is your only choice to do evil? You can open a door for an old woman with an armload of groceries or trip her when she walks by you. If your only choice was to do evil you would slam the door in her face and steal her groceries.
There is evil because men have evil hearts. Evil comes in the form of power, wealth, sex,and greed. People in search of power and wealth will step on anyone and not care if what they do kills or sickens others. Greed is just wanting more of the same. Sex and lust breeds more evil than you would imagine. The only thing that holds a lot of supposedly good persons back is the fear of being caught. A lot of good people have evil hearts and do things in secret that men may not see but God does. You can't blame God for evil, blame His adversary the devil who would love your company in hell and wants to take as many with him as he can. Even Satan had the choice to do good or evil and he chose evil.
Oh I remember you! Your the cute girl with the brightly colored hair but is unfortunately severely misinformed/indoctrinated.
" Evil comes in the form of power, wealth, sex,and greed. People in search of power and wealth will step on anyone and not care if what they do kills or sickens others. Greed is just wanting more of the same. Sex and lust breeds more evil than you would imagine."
I won't argue with much of that because it is in our nature. But I'd like you to take note of your second sentence. If you read the bible you see God doing all the same but is he considered evil. From my perspective yes. The problem with your perspective is that you excuse God under the argument that it is all within his authority. In this same context is how tyrannical dictators are allowed to commit heinous act and in God's schemes you are nothing more than a slave to his whims.
"The only thing that holds a lot of supposedly good persons back is the fear of being caught."
Yes it does but getting caught by whom? Cause what does it matter if I sin or not so long as I confess and ask for forgiveness all will be forgiven (save not believing). Law are put in place and policed to deter criminal activity but so does social status and relationships. A lot of what we do is often related with how we are perceived by others and our interactions with them. As social creatures we seek the company of others and so we model ourselves to appease our peers. Committing acts that would betray the perception others have of you; their trust endangers your relationships. As such that nagging feeling is the result of you expressing your empathy toward an other person and how you may effect them.
Of course I could blame God should he exist as described in the bible for it says that God can do anything, know everything and is supposedlyall loving. What I'm getting is that he allows the Devil to exist and by so allows evil to exist. An all powerful being could have created an existence without evil or if the evil being from something outside it's creation would be able to remove it. If evil was something that would have invaded (or spontaneously formed) then an all knowing God would have equipped us from inception to resist it. If God is truly all loving then he would do everything within his power to prevent evil to befall us.
From experience an observation we see that this is not how things are so those who claim God exists have to blame something else.
It's not that I truly blame God for anything as I don't believe that there is a God that has ever been described actually exists but for the sake of context i made the statement.
'Even Satan had the choice to do good or evil and he chose evil.>/i>"
Now if an angel in heaven is free to choose evil does that mean that we all are still capable of evil in heaven?
No, because we are higher than the angels when we are in heaven. I wish the Bible had explained more than to take all the time talking who begat who. There is much unanswered. Surely God did not need us. He did not need us to give Him power.