I love metal but I must say, is a lot of theatricality around there. Being a tough guy in pink pajamas is hard so of course must be leather and chains and tattoos and death. I don't think "Only Death is real" is meant to be a life statement (would be too ironic) so must be a way to collect in a single phrase the values of a culture. Is a brand!
Acknowledging your death may give you the push you need to live as you want, despite society's norms but if you push it too far would be as if trying to enjoy a party thinking you will play Russian roulette between drinks and dances.
i believe that in a way we are all connected to death, not just our own but to those of the people around us, as we are connected to their lives; our life is merely a step along a greater journey, one that reaches beyond what we think of as life, were are, in a way, life and death itself. As equally as there is no life or death.
Sorry for the very late reply, Im think is most like try to say that all have and end, (for the living things, all finish in death) So, I dont think that really claim for exclusivity but also be conscious of the finiteness of life
I think a lot of extreme metal bands want to be more badass than they are, and they seem to be under the impression that being morbid all the time is the super highway to badass. In that context, it strikes me as a lot of bluster.
I think the most of the bands work in that way, that for sure, but I think that are bands that make work that ideas in their music with a little more serious intention (in the way than the try to express something) than only be badass
Unless you put a lot of stock into Rene Descartes, then no, that's a pretty insipid philosophical statement. Of course, even Descartes believed in himself, which would include at least life and death with it.
I've been a pretty diehard metalhead for as long as I have been listing to music, but that statement smacks of "trying too hard to be extreme". Metal is about the music, any metalhead and decent metal band will tell you that.
From a philosophical standpoint...It's still a rather stupid phrase. Solipsistic dribble about an illusionary life with death being the only true reality. Bollocks, pure and simple.
First time I've heard of it. Almost every extreme metal band I've listened to say "We just like making this music." They often tend to have secular humanistic outlooks, if they even bother to speak philosophically, which has no relation to what you're on about.
So I have no idea what the hell metal culture is. Maybe I'm just too mainstream for these people, but metal 'culture' to me consists of anyone, from students to lawyers to engineers to metalworkers with a plurality of background. So I'll say you're entirely wrong and I have no idea where you got such a ridiculous idea from.
Well, everybody have his own opinion, and is welcome, in the first place I want to know all your opinions, that the reason for the question I made.
I think you not wrong in what you said about the people than conform the metalheads. What you said its true. A lot of people from different backgrounds and ideas enter in the world of metal.
But when you said than I wrong, I dont understand very well... Im not make that statement, I want your opinion for that, but not anyone have a total truth, so I think no anyone have a total error... not me or you have an absolute truth about nothing, but anyway, thanks for your opinion its was very interesting and sorry for the late reply
I dont think only have effect only in people who listen metal, I made that question because is the part of my interest to know. For me that statement is true, and for me have effect in everyone no only to metal fans, is like if I say that gravity only have effect in the people who know the work of Newton
It's pretty accurate in the sense I'm seeing it. If only death is real, it's because only death is reliable (everything dies eventually and there's tight limits to faking death) while everything else is deceptive.
On second thought, though, it sounds more like romanticizing death as some sort of ephemeral final high where only truth exists. There's potentially some accuracy in that, but it strikes me as more of an image/sound thing than an actual philosophy. People who think that for real are suicidal and under informed.
I agree with you, except in your final lines. I dont think that necesary people who think that are suicidal or underinformed, some people that trust in that statement, for the same reason that they believe that only death is real, and live have a time limit, want to fill their live with meaning and significance (I dont say that all that believe in that doing this actually, but I think like in everything, be exception to the rule)
I think you're conflating the two interpretations. Psychologically speaking, you can't romanticize death without an underlying death wish if you understand it as a concept. I stand by my earlier opinion that it sounds more like an image thing than an actual metal philosophy.
Oh, its a very interesting point. Diverting a little the conversation, you think that some death wish come to the writters of old romantic and gothic novels in the way than you say than you can't romanticize death without an underlying death wish if you understand it as a concept? Oh, and sorry for my late reply