You need to calm down and really educate yourself. Think about the latest movie, cartoon or things you use everyday. Did you think those things that entertain you were stupid? All these in a way were conceived by artists. Or like think of your favorite musician. Thats an artist too. All these behind the scene stuff are all done by artist that are credited more then the movie stars them selves, and yet the majority the public don't care or bother to notice their talents.
Being an artist is REALLY rough. None of us can be top notch perfect to everyone like a math paper with a 100 written on it. We have a practice for years and strive to be good enough. It's hard to be noticed. People are HARD on us. The people around me have no bone in their body to respect art. Look at those websites you go to, ARTIST DESIGN THEM. Look at your purse because someone designed that, too! Your house, wallet, school, pillow cases, shirts, underwear, EVERYTHING. An artistic mind and soul created that. Without us, people, it wouldn't be so appealing. Think about the shows you watch. Someone wrote that. Writing is art. Is it animated? OH GOD SO MUCH WORK WENT INTO THAT YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT.
"Stupid? Sir, I'm going to go out and do the things I love to do. What are you going to do with your life?"
How I answer would depend on who and how I'm asked. Mostly my response would be, "Because I enjoy it," (or something to that effect.) As for the "Artists are stupid," attitude, if I'm feeling argumentive I may give a list of careers and individuals who have discreditted the claim, but the rest of the time I'd probably just roll my eyes and walk away.
I've never seen any correlation between intelligence and success in life (in the sense of having lots of money and power). In fact, it seems to be the other way around. The most stupid and illiterate people end up being rich, famous or politicians. So, rather than being stupid, artists are just impractical. The same can be said about those who choose a career in theoretical sciences like mathematics or physics. They rarely end up earning more money than those who choose a business career. But are they stupid? No, not in the least.
As someone who was one of those people who was told that I was "too smart" to do the things I wanted, I'd say that it's an absolutely awful bit of advice to listen to. I want to college for 3 years as a Computer Science major and dropped out because I was bored and hated it. Not surprising is the fact that the only A's I received were in my creative writing and other English & Literature electives.
There are differente type of intelligence...but i didn understand why and artist is stupid, i mean lot of scientist were artist and an artist can anticipate the eras also in lot of philosophies the artist is the one that can comprehend the real essence f reality...so, i don't know...on what bases they have to say it...?
There are 3 different types of intelligence: informational, creative and practical. For some reason, the public at large does not comprehend that. It's like saying the person who physically built your iphone is less smart than the person who wrote apps for it. That's not true. They just have different areas of expertise.
And if we are talking informational intelligence, the person in question has obviously never been to proper art class. Sure it's not the rote vocab memorization, or experiments blowing your face up, but it takes a lot of sheer brain work to get your basics down. For one thing you have to understand balance and movement BAM! PHYSICS! You have to understand anatomy BAM! BIOLOGY! You have to understand how light affects colors and be able to manipulate your materials to do what you want them to BAM! CHEMISTRY!
There are three types of intelligence: informational, creative, and practical. Artists simply have more of them than the idiots who have no choice but to hate.
I would be so mad at the person. And I think it's sad, that some people think such things about artists. I've experienced it myself, when I told some family that I quitted Highschool (In Denmark you call it Gymnasium, usually people from the age of 16-19 or 20). To go to a Danseschool. - But I feel sad for people, who don't know how it is, to be and feel creative. All the things and feelings you can deal with, and the beautiful things you can create
Welcome to the forums! One thing you should know - don't make excuses for yourself or your thoughts. It only makes things worse. If you have a perspective, own it. Defend it to the best of your ability because that's what we're all here to do. That's what this type of conversation is. If, over the course of that conversation, you find that your perspective changes, then have the humility to say that your mind has changed. It might not be fun, but it'll make you a better debater in the end.
So, on to the topic at hand.
First, I'd slap anyone who said that to me. Why? Because sometimes, people need to be slapped when they're being morons. Second, I would get them an ice pack, because I'm not a monster, and I would say "I'm looking at art as a career path because I'm intelligent. Because I'm bright. I'm not willing to jockey a desk and use only a fraction of my ability because it's safe and secure. Artists aren't stupid. Artists are the people who drive innovation. Artists are the people who build multi-million dollar industries. We're the ones who have the courage to think differently and to solve problems. We're the ones who design your iPhone and who make your Xbox work. We're the ones who create whole new worlds for you to explore in film and on television or in books. We're the ones who work out how to filter drinking water practically and cheaply. We're the ones who have the unique perspectives that lead to the things you use every day. If you're asking me to take up something worth my time and intellect, then you're asking me to be an artist because there is nothing more worth my time, talent, and intellect than that which allows my mind and my enthusiasm the free-reign necessary to create."
If that doesn't wow them, then you just tell them to fuck off and go draw them falling off a skyscraper.
It depends entirely on what you mean by 'art'. Creating things, like painting? Being more of a commercial artist, such as designing marketing imagery? Or just studying things like art history? Or even the humanities? I would think such derision stems from three sources: perceived value of art; anti-intellectualism; and pseudo-intellectualism.
'Artists are stupid' being the perceived value of art, and general ignorance of what art involves. I postulate that they fail to see the importance of art, both for commerce and leisure.
Anti-intellectualism would be against actual learning, which probably also ties into a low perception of art's value. Learning the history of art, or even the humanities with philosophy, literature, and even law. They'd see this as useless to a career, and thus just pure selfish indulgence.
And pseudo-intellectualism... one which I happen to despise, myself. Some people 'learn' things, but often just vomit buzzword-salad around a few pieces of information. I used to be that person, but now I am glad I'm not. They're not the people above that actually do learn. So not only are they thought 'stupid' for pursuing higher learning in art by anti-intellectuals, but they're also thought 'stupid' for pursuing higher learning but not actually learning.
That's what I can say due to ancedotal evidence, at least.
I disagree with that. My line of creative work could make good money, same chances as striking oil as say someone who majored in business. And business as we all know is just a form of gambling with better control and higher returns.
Only a tiny, tiny fraction of artists make a living of their art. Look at DA. Probably less than 1% of the people here make a living through artwork. For most of us, it will be nothing more than a sideline or a hobby.
As such, as a career choice, "artist" is indeed stupid. And yes, artists who think they'll be successful in the field are very likely to be stupid. Or at best, naive.
That does not, however, mean _all_ artists are stupid. Some are cognizant of the fact that they aren't going to make money off of their artwork. "I know that I won't make money out of this, and I don't care."
There's also the matter of biology. Supposedly, right brained people are said to be more creative. Left brained people are more logical, analytical, objective, and good with numbers. Artists are said to be more right brained than left brained.
If this is true, then, well, there might be some truth to the matter of artists being less intelligent (again, not everyone). Most people consider being logical, analytical, objective, and good with numbers as good indicators of intelligence.
dude, DA is a REALLY BAD example simply for the fact that there's a significant fraction of it that is basically dedicated to ghost accounts of little icon with cute pictures like this
there is literally no threshold of skill required so needless to say, about 70 or so percent of this site is going to be crap. Most of them aren't serious artists, and they're really not expected to be. If it was THAT hard to make a living as an artist the Art Institute and the various art colleges around the world would have collapsed by now.
The majority of artists here on deviantart are adolescent teenagers, who have yet to enter college as well as adults who are still in college. Many of them are on dA looking for help in improving their art, while also (maybe not all) are also interested in socialising with people with the same interests as theirs.
Finding artists on websites like Facebook can be awkward and not all of them enjoy the sensation of feeling awkward. If there is one thing an artist should be aware of, its that it takes time to get a diploma in art, meaning that artists will have to find ways to earn money in order to pay off of the college fees and purchase supplies, not to mention rent as well as food. Particular courses in art college require a certain amount of points in their final exam in school before the artist takes up a course they want in the college itself.
You are also saying that anyone who ever thinks of getting a diploma of art in the future is thick and should drop the idea of ever pursuing a career in art. Of course, it might require some luck but that doesn't mean all artists should drop the idea. What about all those graphic designers for gaming companies or various different industries requiring diplomas in art? What about those animators who are in Dreamworks or Walt Disney? There is also 3D animation which requires a hell of a lot configuration and mathematics in order for it to work perfectly in rhythm with music as well as voice acting, to display the emotions within a character or to set the mood within a sequence, and it isn't 3D animation alone.
Just because someone happens to be left brained doesn't mean they should just abolish plans on pursuing an art diploma in what they are interested in. That's saying all right-handed people are stupid and that every industry that looks for artists should avoid hiring right handed artists. It all boils down to what kind of form of art they work best at as well as their management of time.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Artists are stupid". Most of the time the argument they use basically means that the artist should've made a better career choice because art-related jobs are "difficult" to come by.
If this happened to me, there would be no argument because I sort of agree with them.