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Is humanism a niche for nuts?

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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
All the humanists I know are stark raving mad.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Methinks you don't know the meaning of the word, if you think all humanists are crazy. Let me help:

"Humanism is a group of philosophies and ethical perspectives which emphasize the value and agency of human beings, individually and collectively, and generally prefers individual thought and evidence (rationalism, empiricism), over established doctrine or faith (fideism)." [link]

You basically called all agnostics, atheists, and even religious people who put greatest stock in logic and reason crazy. Good luck with that.
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I take it that none of you who have commented so far are parents? Until you've brought life into this world you know NOTHING of what it is to be human. Maybe you've all met the wrong people. We are very fortunate to be humans. At least we can think about the world and what it means. Lots of people lay down their lives for total strangers. No other animal does that. I'd rather be a Humanist than believe in an invisible being in the sky. If we all learnt to appreciate ourselves and others then the world would not be in such a mess.
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Strangemass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
What? How does not being a parent mean I don't know anything about being the thing that I am? There's more to being human than child rearing. Also, altruism is not something unique to humans; it's a trait that's been observed in many other social animals.
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
You'll learn one day.
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Strangemass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's a nice non-answer ya got there. :v
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't have to explain myself to you :v
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Strangemass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
True, you have no obligation to do so. Not that I'd expect a response with any actual substance anyway. :v
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oooh! I've been B*tch slapped :iconpervygargyplz:

Hope you thaw out sometime in 2013.
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Strangemass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
This is what I mean - nuts!
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Speak for yourself. But then you seem to hate the whole world at the moment.
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Strangemass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I see what you mean. :v
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Humanity literally has no value. We are nothing but a bag of meat sitting on a tiny insignificant blue rock.
And if it weren't for those you call raving mad, every single person on earth who couldn't accept that fact would have committed suicide by now.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
In comparison to the Universe, the earth is nowhere and somewhere. Humanity has value because it is the custodian of this beautiful planet. People matter, earth matters and nothing else does.
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But who gives us this value but ourselves.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Who is there to give it to us but ourselves?
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No one, as of yet, but even a hypothetical external perspective would find us purposeless.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
A hypothetical externality is just that hypothetical. It is something that Plato forgot.
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, what about Aliens or even God for that matter?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Hypothetical at the moment.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Writer
Humanity is pathetic. Humanists, doubly so.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There's nothing more pathetic than a self-loathing human being.
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Why would you even care of a self-loathing being?
When you comment, your just allowing him to troll you into a dead-end conversation.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Student Writer
1. It isn't a troll, it is a philosophical opinion. My comment is not meant to be a troll, but if that is what you find this, then either you or me have to improve on their understanding of the concept of cyberbullying.
2. Some people are self-loathing and finds nothing wrong with it.
3. I'm female.
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1> The word troll has meaning outside the realm of the internets and my usage of it is not related to cyber-bullying. Should I have said 'pull'?

2>Because they can't look at themselves from an external 'external perspective'.

3>and I'm male... Why are we stating our genders?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
1. A troll finds everything funny.
2. To loathe one's humanity is uncivilised.
3. She was called a he.
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NickKartha Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1> Off-topic

2>I don't believe in in civilized societies. I believe in individuals.

3> Sorry, English is a masculine language.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
1. A troll forgets that he is human and becomes a demon.
2. Civilisation ensures the rights of the individual.
3. The masculine in English is overused.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Martin Luther said that if there was no laughter in heaven - he didn't want to go there.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Mark Twain said the same thing in a loving way; that mankind was pathetic, and that there was no laughter in heaven for there was nothing sorrowful about heaven.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Passion is the genesis of genius. - Galileo

Humanism has forgotten this.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Writer
Thank you. How flattering.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You're welcome, but how is it flattering?
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Writer
I simply love it when I am criticized. I appreciate everything said about me because that means somebody actually bothered to comment.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
When someone says something obviously meant to offend, I go on the attack.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Student Writer
I just quite dislike the way a lot of people use the sentence "Oh, for the sake of humanity!" And usually they are exaggerating. No living being is perfect (for atheists, at least), and humans do have a large amount of flaws. Not that I am saying (typing) that only completely perfect is allowed,but as you said (typed), all humanists you know are raving mad. I do not have anything against madness in the usual acceptable form, just these guys are, pathetic about it.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Humanity is humaneness also.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Most humanists are put out by the ingratitude of the general public towards the service of humanism to humanity. Christ, we killed Robespierre for them.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
Who the hell do you know?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I was a member of an Australian humanist society for 11 years.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
There's your problem. Australians.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What do you know about the Secular Party of Australia? Nothing, I suppose.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
I know that it is comprised primary of Australians, and that their goals generally have a secular bent.
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WadoIchimonji Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012
Is humanism a niche for nuts?

No.

All the humanists I know are stark raving mad.

That's nice.
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Do you know what a humanist in real terms is?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
A humanist is a contradiction in terms. He will not serve, yet he is a servant. (James Joyce)
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mkr Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Professional General Artist
Humanism isn't a niche. It's a central feature of most modern religions.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Most religions don't know what humanism is.
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Vanhir Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Do you know what humanism is?
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