All this babbling about what Christmas is or isn't or what it is or isn't about is ridiculous. Christmas is about whatever the hell the people celebrating it want it to be about. People celebrate it differently all around the world. For some people it's entirely about Jesus, for some people it's about food and family and gifts. Why does anyone give a shit who celebrates it and what it's about for them?
In Belgium, some over-the-top secular people wanted to rename Christmas "plaisir d'hivers" (Winter pleasures) and get rid of the Christmas tree for being too christian... a frigging tree whose origin isn't even christian... seriously...
I perfectly embrace the commercial aspect of the event and only celebrate Christmas for the food and the presents but that's a really silly move imho.
The way I see it, Christians modeled Christmas the way they did around the pre-existing Pagan holidays so that it could become more popular. Now it has. It's become part of our culture, which is exactly what they wanted, so now that non-believers in that culture want to adapt and celebrate the holiday they have no room to complain.
The fact that the early Church chose to locate the celebration of Jesus' birth around the time of a midwinter celebration -- such is near-universal in European cultures -- and that it inevitably picked up some as secular features some elements from those other celebrations, does not make it "not Christian" to begin with.
Midwinter is a great time to have a party. The days are short and dreary. When better to throw a huge log on the fire, and feast and drink with family and friends? If you're not religious, so what?
You should know that Xmas is actually a MORE respectful way to write "Christmas", not less as some might have you think.
Thanks for that. I've become too used to people acting like 1) If I don't celebrate it I'm heathen scum and 2) If I do celebrate it I'm heathen scum. It's nice to have people actually be nice about it. I just want everyone to be happy and well, and this has always been good family time for me.
"Mas" is the part of Christmas that has all the food, dancing, decorations, presents and family get-together, right? The "Christ" part is what? The nativity scene and a church visit. Have a merry Christ, then. You're allowed to celebrate a little mas in case it gets boring.
This is true! I came from a family that packed up and went to Catholic Mass on the morning of, or the night before. And believe you me, if there is one group who takes Christmas protocol super cereal, its the Catholics.
Meh, I don't care whether I'm being wished a happy christmas from a christian, an atheist or anyone else, as long as they don't use it as another opportunity to advertise their stance on the subject. Gets a little tedious. Just enjoy the damn party.