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Why do you belive or disbelive in evolution

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abeautiful-world Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012
okay I have read a lot of posts on here where People slate creationist and keep mentioning how evolution proves them wrong and having heated arguments with name calling where no real points are getting raised so I am confused.

How does believing in a god change the fact of evolution?

if you don't believe in evolution at all why not?

if you believe evolution is an uncompleted theory with not enough facts why do you believe this.

hopefully we can have a decent conversation and I can find out why people believe what they do.

but bearing in mind this is the net i am sure we will get some trolls and people who just want an argument so this is how i will work.

if you insult me or anyone else I don't care how good your so called points are I wont bother acknowledging them.

if you don't agree with someone else points feel free to say why you don't agree but don't call them names.

now hopefully we can all learn something thought im sure the trolls will see this as bait.
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EchoInTheVoid Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student Writer
This is my teen mind speaking but, I feel that God put us as a fish first and gave us the resources to evolve, just like the big bang I believe it happened but I am convinced that God caused it.
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TheWerewolfPuppy Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe in evolution because atm it's the best explanation we have. Besides, scientists have found many "proofs" that strengthens the theory of evolution :)
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Panthera--Shadow Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Student General Artist
DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS. IT'S JUST HOW I THINK OF IT.

I believe evolution is a possibility. It could be how humans were created.
How else could evolution work? It would take far more than three or four billion years for single-cell chemosynthetic organisms to evolve into humans, with our complex brains, perfect balance of chemicals for emotion, and optimal anatomy for our role on earth. It's like taking a grain of sand and expecting it to turn into a self-sustainable nuclear power plant that interacts with its customers entirely on accident.
I have similar views on the Big Bang.
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VictorianExcentric Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
>It's like taking a grain of sand and expecting it to turn into a self-sustainable nuclear power plant that interacts with its customers entirely on accident.

I don't know about a grain of sand, but if you take a pile of hydrogen, that will actually genuinely happen spontaneously. Just saying...your argument underestimate/fails to grasp the power of large numbers...which is what makes evolution and much of modern science possible.

VE.
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Panthera--Shadow Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Student General Artist
I understand that, but I was using a visual example.
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VictorianExcentric Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So was I, but since it seems better we be straightforward in order to convey my meaning and clear any confusion between us, well, here we go.

My point stated more clearly is that while we understand "the everyday world" and the "everyday math" that comes with it in a very intuitive fashion, the world of the very large, the very small, the very long (in time), the very short (in time) are all rife with activities/possibilities that escape our "everyday experience".

So that a statement such as It would take far more than three or four billion years for single-cell chemosynthetic organisms to evolve into humans, with our complex brains, perfect balance of chemicals for emotion, and optimal anatomy for our role on earth. is only a reflection of the difficulty we may have in intuitively grasping those things that occur at different scales than the one of our daily lives.

As such, we can not trust our intuition, but must rely on other tools. So that statement of yours appeared to me as too "anthropocentric", hence my use of a (scientifically correct) adjustment to your argument showing that when expanded to other scale where suddenly, it makes sense, where suddenly the strange not only can, but does occur.

Have a nice evening,

VE.
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HametsuNoCharge Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I believe in evolution for the sheer fact that there is no way in hell god managed to make all those species in one afternoon. That and creationism it doesn't explain how species adapts, mutate, become extinct and why the dinosaurs are supposed to have feathers on :stare:
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Didj Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013
Creationism doesn't really explain anything at all. Only that everything just sort of popped into existence by the will of an impossible being because... magic.
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HametsuNoCharge Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lol that's technically an explanation. A shitty one but an explanation. I would love to be able to use "...because MAGIC!" as an answer =P
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thehistoryfreak13 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student General Artist
Well in my opinion its really a pointless debate. I mean I believe that we all went through evolution, but I don't think we were monkeys at first, i just think we adapted so much to our environment. But does it really matter? What good does this do for our future? I mean I constantly see people argue over the smallest of things, even though they have more in common than they think. It just seems that people always want to prove that they are the right ones and they are on top all the time and honestly that is just unnecessary.

I mean instead of talking about something that happened millions of years ago, shouldn't we be talking about the world and how to mmake it better? I mean there is so much shit going on all over. The shootings that happened, the fact that alot of people don't have the chances to get a decent meal, the fact that right now people are dying in the Middle East for their freedom, like we Americans did 200 years ago and no one is helping them. The fact that the world is always in constant conflict... I mean isn't that more important? Why live in the past?
For hundreds of years people have always been fighting over the smallest of things. Europeans fought over Protestantism and Catholicism and caused so many deaths, even though they are still both Christian and believe in God. They believe in the same thing yet they fight. And not just Christians, other religions too it is seen constantly. Buddist monks in Burma want all the Muslims there to die even though they both could just live in peace.
Is there a point in living in the past? Why cares if we were in monkeys or weren't monkeys? What matters is here and now and our future that is what we should be focusing on. We should instead of fighting strive for a better tomorrow, where less people are starving, where people can get together in talk about what they love, where no one has to die to have a peaceful life.
THAT IS WHAT MATTERS! THE NOW, NOT THEN!
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