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Why do people act like all religions are the same?

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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2012  Student General Artist
Not all religions believe in a nice, fuzzy, personal, omnipotent sky daddy. Not all religions believe in Jesus or Zeus or Thor. Not all religions have a god of evil or really an important concept of evil at all. I see the biggest problem in religious debates as a semantics problem, because there are all these undefined terms like god and benevolence, similar to undefined terms in mathematics that you just have to know intuitively, but unlike mathematics tend to be warped through interaction and reflection, as if them being intangible and invisible was not bad enough already. Religion is too often used as a synonym for Christianity and Greek mythology. In Buddhism there is no god (although you can still have one), in Judaism the afterlife is generally not a concern as is proselytizing people, and in most religions besides Christianity, the favor of god(s) is about your virtues and not about kowtowing in the typical interpersonal manner. Christianity is generally a very interpersonal religion, because it's all about having a relationship with Jesus who is nice to irredeemable scum like you (that's why he had to die for you), although there are apparent exceptions with recluses and stuff. Relgion is not a crutch for the weak, even if some are, because what if there is an omnipotent malevolent entity? That's not much to relax on, but many people do believe that, and it's still a religion.

Yawn, I'll stop now and log off. If you have any questions ask me because I've logically though out everything I could think of and if you want to start arguing my personal beliefs or something you can. I've already used all the standard atheist arguments myself and that's how I got to my current conclusions.
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i-am-a-retro-lass Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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OmicronWanderer Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
From a scientific perspective

Religion stems from at its most basic, a fear of the unknown. people (I hate to say create but it's really the only word that seems to fit) religions and myths to attempt to explain the questions science is either unable to answer at the time.

most religions have a strong tie to the idea of an afterlife or a life after death. this tends to be a primary thread between them.

However the most common tie between religions is the belief that the world came into being as a result of a being or beings or occured spontaniously alongside said beings.

An interesting thing to look at would also be flood myths. take a look: [link]
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
I think it's a lazy way of saying that all religion seems to be driven by more or less the same impulses.
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mystichuntress Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Not all religions are exactly the same, but they have similar concepts. Which suggests that all religions were derived from a single one which had eventually split off and changed.
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staple-salad Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
IMO all religions are the same.

There is one deity. That omnipotence can be described as a single corporeal being, multiple corporeal beings, male, female, genderless, all genders, conceptual, a grouping of emotions, a person, or really any other way that a deity may be conceptualized. The names are changed, multiples are rolled into one, one is broken into multiples, etc.

Then the religion uses that deity to describe a general moral and social code that more or less creates a social structure motivating followers to be mindful of others and generally not be selfish pricks that would lead to the downfall of society, along with some localized rules regarding specific cultural and environmental traits (shellfish, beef, pork taboos, etc).

The rest is merely explanation for things that science cannot yet explain and elude most other forms of philosophy.

But more or less the message is the same, the deity is the same, but the names and stories are changed to fit a local culture.
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destroyedeggo Featured By Owner Dec 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Because they all have the one thing in common. Us and our destiny.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There's mud and then there's clay. All religions dish them out equally.
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Svataben Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you think Zeus and Thor fall into the "nice, fuzzy, personal, omnipotent sky daddy" category, you're badly misinformed.

"Christianity is generally a very interpersonal religion, because it's all about having a relationship with Jesus"
No, that's not what Christianity is. That's what one branch of Christianity is. One aspect.
The very extreme Jesus fixation that happens in some branches simply isn't practised in others.
For instance, when I got my confirmation according with the tradition of Danish protestants, the priest did talk about Jesus but much more about God directly.

I don't think most people act like all religions are the same.

I do think lots of ignorant people spout off about religion in badly created OPs like this one. :lol:
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BlueWingedCoyote Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
Because to an atheist you are ALL delusional... the shape and colour of your hallucinations don't matter to the outsider's diagnosis of looniness.
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Sabby1300 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012
All religions might be different in some way or another, but they're still inherently the same. According to the ancient Romans, what made a religion an actual religion was the worship of a deity. Didn't have to be polytheistic, either, you just had to have a deity to worship. That's what made it a religion and not a sect or form of philosophy. And a lot of people still define religion in the same way today. When I think of all the different religions I've learned about over the years, they all share one thing in common in my opinion and that is the worship of a deity or deities. The means of worship vary from culture to culture, but it's still worship. That's why I personally act as if all religions are inherently the same. Now if you want to talk about philosophy, that's a whole different ballgame.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Writer
All religions are based on the same thing, which is to be stupid and 'Ignorance is power'. (got the last bit from 1984 by George Orwell)
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As far as I've seen on this site anyhow. People always assume the word "religion" means "Christianity" the current workaround I use is to emphasize very clearly that religion is not Christianity & what religion I am talking about.

The reason is to why, I believe it's their hubris. But to the part where it's getting weird, I've seen & in contact with some Christians who goes by the logic that "if you believe in goodness & blahblahblah, then you believe in god. Because you believe in god, you must convert now so you can be saved!" Preposterous I'd say.
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist
Because, some of them are unexperienced, but that doesn't mean they are bad christians. They are just lack of the word of God of the Bible. But, if you really study the depth of the Bible, then we know that no religion can convert anyone to believe in God. Because, the Bible teaches very clear, all men are "spiritually dead" and no man can come to God, unless He draws you first (John 6:44). Only then, we can start to believe in God with all of our heart, mind and soul. That is the circumcision of the heart, (not the part of our foreskin) and it is done 100% the work of God, not man nor any other religion that is in the world today.
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:iconda1withdalongestname:
So I see you're in a good mood enough to brought up that people should be Christians because they liked the religion & not because we all need to pay our debts.
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist
That, would be up to God and no man can repay their debts. The only way you can repay your debts, if Christ paid it all in full. Otherwise, you have to pay your debts on your own, which is death. That, is what the Bible teaches...
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:iconda1withdalongestname:
We all still die, so the debt is not "fully" paid

And merry Christmas & happy new year. I'll just dance & sing.
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist
But, if christ paid your sins at the cross, then you will be ressurected on your last days. If not, then it would be a 2nd death and you will not rise again nor any conscious existence nor come into remembrance. Because, the law of God says, "The wages of sins", is death both body and soul shall die. (Romans 6:23). In another words, there's no such thing called hell and burning forever and ever. God is a merciful God, He doesn't want to see anyone to suffer for billions of years or eons. Only, mankind dare to think such evil ways. Because, God has set up the law, mankind are not to be punish no more than 40 stripes. And, that's exactly where Christ has experienced, He was punished no more than 40 stripes.

Mankind was created in the images of God with Soul or Spirit. Not, like animals, they were not created in the images of God,
thus they donn't posses souls nor they have to answer for their sins, when they die. They are dead and they do not come back to life nor any conscious existence.
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The Muslims also said the same thing about their god. Oh wait, you 2 shared the same god. If your god is half as merciful as you've claimed, then I don't need to be a Christian if I being virtuous according to your god's law. Isn't Ruth a non-Christian? Wait, i remembered all she ever did was treating her Christian mother well. So that means I should get a Christian wife & treat her well, so it doesn't matter if I'm a Christian or not then.

What's the point of living forever? eventually, everything will be said & done, you'll have a dull life. At least, if you die, you'll value your moment in life.

So your holiday joy is running out & you're starting to quote the Romans? The very people who turned Christianity into a political tool. Remind me, isn't it the Roman Christians who burned down & raid non-Christian religious buildings?

Again with this image thing, yet people interpreted differently. So I ask you then, what is this god's image?
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Hobbyist
No. Ruth was the child of God. It's not whether you should get a christians wife to get your ticket to heaven. Like, what the bible teaches, if your sins is fully paid by Christ, then you will become the child of God. Now as far as leaving forever. Did you know death is just the beginning of life? Now, how do you know living forever and ever is a dull? Why, have you experienced death and came back to life?
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TimeHasAnEnd Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
Because, there are only remnant who follows the "Word of God of the Bible", which is the "Law book of God." Other religion, has created their own "man made religion" or they have created their own "man made salvation program." Therofore, creating their own doctrine, that has nothing to do with the Bible. Therefore, whorshipping other gods, other than the "Almighty God", the Creator." Which is contrary to the Word of God of the Bible. Wherefore, ending under the judgment of God.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2012  Student Writer
`GASP`!!! You didn't quote bible?! Couldn't believe it.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
american youth: instead of looking up the theological references and researching something to actually learn about that thing, they just make a passive-anarchic semi complaining 1/4 trolling and 3/4 trollable thread in some forum corner of the internet, and than makes a half lazy comment like

Yawn, I'll stop now and log off.

which represents most of how his schooling have went.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
There's so many false assumptions just in these replies it's giving me cancer. That's exactly the problem though - as soon as the word 'religion' pops up, people assume they know what you're talking about. They don't; the reality is even theologians can't agree on a definition for religion that is completely accurate because there are NO unifying characteristics among them, except ones so broad and general they could apply to many many things other than religions and even those are debatable.
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It is born from ignorance my freind, they simply have not gone out and researched the other religions of the world. I believe that every religion (well main religion, wouldnt want to be teaching the poor children about pagans) should be taught in school, so people can understand and respect the main religions of the world.
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Smkiller Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
wouldnt want to be teaching the poor children about pagans
Over tooo
so people can understand and respect

You're a silly one.
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
why should we try to understand and respect pagans?
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kausawolf Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Same reason we should understand and respect ANYONE.
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
why? understand and respect the nazis? Understand and respect rapists? You stupid. You dont understand or repect those people. You just hate them.
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kausawolf Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually I don't hate them.
And I can understand them. They proved they don't deserve respect, so I do not respect them.
Everyone else I try and understand and respect till they prove otherwise.
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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student General Artist
Children already have to learn about pagans. Greek mythology.
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
In england classics is optional.
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Smkiller Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
For the same reason one should understand and respect other belief systems as well.
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
no.
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:iconsmkiller:
Smkiller Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
If one does not understand something, how can they possibly hate it?
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der-freishutz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
easily.
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Smkiller Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist
But if they don't understand it, can one really be sure that they hate what they think they do?
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012
Because we live in a Christian dominated world and it effectively created a negative connotation with religion in my head forever now.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
All religions are bullshit.
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kausawolf Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Its funny how you act like you know about every single religion out there thats ever existed and have personally disproved them all.
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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012  Student General Artist
Usually you quote absurdism, but this time you quote Terroja? Yassassin, Toyota Camus.
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After--Life Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Because most of the religions, if not all, were all created by the same One God.

Over the period of time, some of these faiths have been changed and corrupted by mankind.

Cultural practices have invaded religious practices and influence took the wrong turns.

These faiths have been formed by the prophets' followers, in various different parts of this Earth, and in different times of history.

These prophets were all sent by the divine to reform the societies that God exists and that only he is worthy of worship.

These prophets were sent down to ready the people, to inform them and prepare them for the final laws that God would send down in this world.

According to Islam, all the previous prophet's missions have passed, and they were not meant forever, but only temporary.

The final prophet that God sent down was Muhammad (saw), and his message was for the entire mankind, he was the Khatam Nabiyat, or the Seal of all the Prophets.

All the previous prophets, such as Jesus (as), Moses (as), Abraham (as), Noah (as), Ezekiel (as), Jacob (as), David (as), Solomon (as), Adam (as), Confucius (as), Socrates (as), Buddha (as), Krishna (as), and thousands of others, were all sent by God throughout various different parts of this world in different time periods, to prepare the people for what is to come.

The final prophet has appeared, the truth has become clear from the falsehood, it is now up to our wills to decide, what is right, and what is wrong. The truth is collected in a set of beliefs, and these systems of beliefs is called a religion, a way of life, the sole purpose of living...worship.

Since all the prophets had one GOAL, to explain the existence of the creator and to worship one God, the religions of these prophets of course, have to be similar.

God unveiled more of his laws, however, in the later religions, and the final religion, according to my belief, is Islam, where ALL the laws have been revealed for us to follow and obey, and there will be no new laws until the end of this world.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Because it's easier than really thinking. Knowing how religions are different requires knowing something about them. Much easier to call them all the same and leave it at that.
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
easier to say "theyre all false". i guess thats why rejection increases recently
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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm going to quote this.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Student General Artist
You just outlined one of the roots of the problems in the general population. Finding the easiest way out instead of actually acknowledging there are variations within a group(s).
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hanciong Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
in my opinion, all the differences are "outer skin". for me, every religion teaches us to be happy, to live in peace with one another, forgiveness, compassion, etc. THAT'S the core of religion, and NOT whether Jesus is God or not, whether Mary is a virgin or not, whether earth is created in 6 days or not. Those things are NOT the important things. But apparently most people get confused, and think that the not-so-important thing is actually important.
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puppy-dangerous Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Who is saying this, now?
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superbatprime Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
While I acknowledge and can grasp the differences between various religions the vast majority (if not all) do share a single defining trait... belief in the supernatural.

In this regard they are indeed, all the same.
Buddhism may not have a deity but it is greatly concerned with the concept of an afterlife, karmic balance etc.
Judaism may not concern itself much with an afterlife but it is heavily steeped in mysticism and it's deity.

It is this belief in the supernatural and it's (often profound) effect on the world and peoples lives (sometimes against their will) that concerns me, the minutiae of what gods they believe in, afterlife they look forward to and dogma they expound are simply trappings born of culture and geographical location.

It is of no concern to me that lunatic A thinks he is Napoleon while lunatic B thinks he is Elvis Presley.
They are both insane.
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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Student General Artist
Define supernatural and then I'll say it's nonsense.

Lunatic A is out killing people and some-what taking over territory, while lunatic B is just being mocked for singing badly. Now is it a concern?
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
as soon as you define supernatural, its natural. i mean before electricity was discovered, it was the hammer of thor. you know what i mean
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