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the nature of arguments

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GGordonS Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Arguments are bound to separate people, dividing them into groups. We have so many walls separating people from other people.
If these divisions get really charged with emotion they become "flammable" and ignite all kinds of aggressive action, such as rebellions, wars, and hatred.
How can an argument solve a problem?
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Arguments aren't the cause of division, they are a result of them.
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GGordonS Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, thats a different take on the situation entirely and the shoe fits :)
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TheAwsomeOpossum Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Argument can't solve a problem, but the question really is; do problems cause or remove problems? Which is worse from your perspective... a place where lots of people disagree with each other, or a place where everybody is forced to hold the same opinion? I'd prefer the first, tbh... that's just the way I look at it.
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GGordonS Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Everybody being forced to hold the same opinion is when people are disagreeing the most lol
Thats the kind of situation that makes anybody thankful they can have a voice
but my voice being heard doesn't mean I have to disrespect you, arguing and calling you wrong
I'm on a more personal level saying we would have more contentment if we stop at least one argument thats ongoing with someone in our personal lives, like say, that guy that always wants to argue we all know. If we don't take the bait and argue with a family member or a co-worker or something like that, we do ourselves a favor every time.
It got very muddled, the political system is one thing, but I'm trying more to make a comment on personal lives and dealing with people.
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TheAwsomeOpossum Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
"Everybody being forced to hold the same opinion is when people are disagreeing the most lol"

I mean inherently... like through social structures... not through physical force.

"Thats the kind of situation that makes anybody thankful they can have a voice
but my voice being heard doesn't mean I have to disrespect you, arguing and calling you wrong"

Definitely. It's better to be polite in my opinion too. But sometimes I do think it is necessary to point out somebody wrong; it's just best to do it in a very kind way as to avoid other difficulties one might have.

"I'm on a more personal level saying we would have more contentment if we stop at least one argument thats ongoing with someone in our personal lives, like say, that guy that always wants to argue we all know. If we don't take the bait and argue with a family member or a co-worker or something like that, we do ourselves a favor every time"

Oh, I'd agree there too. It's just I don't think argument is totally useless. It creates problems, definitely, but it's not a total problem maker.

"It got very muddled, the political system is one thing, but I'm trying more to make a comment on personal lives and dealing with people."

That's the best type of commitment to make imho =).

Best of Wishes,
-TAO
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TheAwsomeOpossum Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012
Woops, mixed up the sentence there. It should be "Argument can't usually solve problems, but the question really is; do arguments cause or remove problems?
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sinisterwonderland Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
there is a difference between an argument and a debate. debates are positive and can help resolve issues. arguments are essentially contradiction and are a bit pointless, i'd agree. but if nothing was debated, we might as well be in a socialist state, and we all know how they turn out.
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GGordonS Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thats it, thats the part right there. debate emphasizes something very different, like keeping it a discussion, where as argument is very personal, not talking about a thing so much as talking about the person who represents it. I think the difference is in the attitude, drama never solved anything, we can address the problems without losing our temper or feeling hurt about them... where it needs it of course you stand for what you stand for and don't back down from your position. I don't know about any of you, but I can't think right when I'm angry, how could anybody else
Im not in the politics section because I'm not talking about that really, I'm talking about philosophy. More on line with like dealing with other people in personal life.
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sinisterwonderland Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i see what you mean. i suppose arguments are part of human nature, in a way, although i also do not see the point to them. i think that when emotions are running high it can often be almost impossible to just calm down and talk, though.
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Debra-Marie Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Unfortunately this is the internet, where people use a computer screen to hide themselves, therefore acting as rude and mean as they possibly can.
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