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Why did God do Satanís bidding?

:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Why did God do Satanís bidding?

Christians are too religious to follow their moral sense and spiritual natures. Religion is directing your morals instead of your God given intelligence, moral sense and spiritual nature. I urge you to follow the teachings of spiritual teachers like Bishop Spong. A moral man.

[link]

Galileo -- "I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use."

Job 2; 3 And the LORD said unto Satan: 'Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a whole-hearted and an upright man, one that feareth God, and shunneth evil? and he still holdeth fast his integrity, although thou didst move Me against him, to destroy him without cause.

Fellow believers and Gnostic Christians like me; if you are a literalist or fundamental Christian or idol worship the God you have found in the Bible, I urge you to think of the story of Job and note from the wording that God is being manipulated by Satan. Satan bid God to move against Job without just cause and God did just that. God let Satan manipulate him.

I know that your mind set is to think that God is controlling Satan but as the wording and Godís actions clearly shows, this is not so. Satan ruled God that day.

Psa 5: 5 For Thou art not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness; evil shall not sojourn with Thee. 6 The boasters shall not stand in Thy sight; Thou hatest all workers of iniquity. 4 For you are not a God who delights in wickedness; evil may not dwell with you.

As Job 2;3 shows, evil definitely dwells in God and definitely sojourn.

Some of you will say that regardless of the immorality of Godís actions, you can ignore them as you have a new covenant with Jesus. I see this as a cop out on your part. Jesus was not born divine. He had to become divine as we all must according to scriptures. These say he was a Rabbi only and had to force his apotheosis the way we all must through seeking God.

Job 25; 4 How then can man be just with God? Or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
Hebrew 5; 8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

If a man did what God did to Job, Christians would soundly condemn that man yet you elevate God for doing the same immoral actions. You do so because your fear death and crave heaven but your poor moral position insures that hell will be your end result as immoral souls do not earn heaven. Let evil be in your heart as God does but remember that recognizing it is what is important. Not the fact that it is there.

Do you realize that your morality has been compromised by religion and that you are not following the law of God that is written on your heart?
You are giving God a pass when you should be giving him a fail, ---- just as you would give an evil man?

Let your spiritual nature guide you. Not a corrupted religion.

Regards
DL
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:iconcandanceamy:
CandanceAmy Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
I really have this hard time placing the Christian "god" on the same page with the Hebrew "god".
From what learned Jesus came and told all those idiots to stop hating each other because God is not a bad guy and he is only good.

So what I see here are different interpretations of divinity colliding into one religion.
The results are this big mess humanity faced the past centuries.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Things are improving as fewer minds are falling into belief based on faith and more into intelligent thought.

More are asking why, and fewer are settling for, --- duh, this is the way we have always done it and thought so it must be right.

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DL
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SpacelanderRyo Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Student General Artist
God is just making Satan feel in control to make a point is how I always interpreted that, but then I always saw God as omnipotent but not omnibenevolent, but rather sort of apathetic really.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Yes. If he cared for us, he would come out of hiding to be questioned and teach.

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DL
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:iconmaddmatt:
maddmatt Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
It's funny that you use those terms. If you really had read Job, as it is clear you haven't, it details exactly what kind of position created man would have in trying to question the Creator God.

Maybe if you weren't so bent on your bigoted hatred you might gain some wisdom.
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:icongvcspecks:
gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
oh god, another one who quotes a few passages, inserts their own translation and understanding and decides they have disproved an entire religion and that everyone should stop practicing it.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
A religion based on human sacrifice and the notion that it is good to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.

Your morals have been compromised my friend.

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DL
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:icongvcspecks:
gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
why have my morals been compromised?

you are just spouting shit and not achieving fuck all, and you know you aren't achieving fuck all.

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putting regards at the end of every post makes you look a cock.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Here is an example of why your religion has compromised your morals and created a double standard.

[link]

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DL
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:icongvcspecks:
gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
i do not give enough shits to click the link.

your intelligence has been compromised by one fundamental error.
I am not religious, i have no religion.
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:icontotally-dead:
Totally-dead Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Another one? This one has been doing it for a while.

Though he has some good points 1 time in 5.
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:icongvcspecks:
gvcspecks Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
still pretty pointless, he isn't swaying anyone.
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:icontotally-dead:
Totally-dead Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That is for sure.
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:iconpuppy-dangerous:
puppy-dangerous Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Why did God listen to Satan? Because he GAVE HIM THE JOB. Come on, it's pretty basic Christian theology here- he was in charge of testing peoples faith and suggested ways for God to do it. That was before he decided he didn't like the way things were run and came to Earth.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Tyranny is rather boring in heaven.

Regards
DL
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:iconpuppy-dangerous:
puppy-dangerous Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
lol EVERYTHING is rather boring in heaven. Peace. Psssh. Who needs it.
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Jay-Hyena Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Considering God also had to "start over" with the human race in the Bible, I would suppose most Christians fool themselves into thinking God is perfect simply because he's God. I think that were he real, he'd be a being capable of making mistakes. The Bible has many instances of that.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
For sure.

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DL
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:iconlupin-da-3rd:
Lupin-da-3rd Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
God didn't. Instead he Daffy Duck-ed him with the whole duck season rabbit season trick
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
That's wabbit.

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DL
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:iconmaddmatt:
maddmatt Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
:rofl:
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:iconrockstar1009:
rockstar1009 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
G-d intended for Satan to intend for him to do his bidding. All part of the plan, mate. G-d is the ultimate chessmaster. :no:
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
He does like to play with his human pieces for sure. Mary for one.

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DL
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:iconmagusthelofty:
MagusTheLofty Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Everyone's unacceptable to peer pressure at one point or another.
Maybe God was afraid that Satan would think he wasn't cool.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
We are all susceptible to those pressures for sure but I did not think God had peers.

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DL
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:iconmaddmatt:
maddmatt Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
Awww...look who needs more attention.
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:iconenuocale:
EnuoCale Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don't know. Why did my dick do my hand's bidding?
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:icontotally-dead:
Totally-dead Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I don`t think it had much choice. It was manhandled.
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Professional General Artist
Something worth considering in context of Job specifically: [link]

Have you read Jung's Answer to Job yet? It is an interesting interpretation of the story in a Gnostic Christian context.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
I have not but if in a Gnostic context, it is guaranteed to be good IMO. We tend to look at things from all possible angles.

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DL
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
Jung is one of the primary reasons I regard myself as a Gnostic. He's worth knowing.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
I have his PDF on Job but have not read it as yet. I will.

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DL
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:iconsaintartaud:
saintartaud Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Professional General Artist
His interpretation is definitely intriguing, though I think some grounding in Jungian psychology is useful to get where he's coming from.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
No argument there my friend.

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DL
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:iconsiegeonthorstadt:
siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
"doing his bidding" is your interpretation. your opinion doesnt define the reality. you call it bidding, i call it lesson, someone else might call it challange; it doesnt change the fact that satan is the enemy of human. if you want to excuse yourself of faith at least stop trying to sound smart and do the bigotism and hypocrisy that you accuse the christians of doing.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Satan is our enemy?

Who gave him dominion here and the power to deceive the whole world?

God did.

Who has killed more of us in scriptures?

God did.

You follow a genocidal God and blame the one God has sentence and has rewarded instead of punishing.

I would say that your moral sense has been compromised by your religion.

Regards
DL
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siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
do you know how many ants die every day?

how many bacteria?

how many cells get decomposed?

you cant even count.

for some reason killing animals and plants and devouring them for your pleasure and satisfying your hunger is wrong. but you cry and bitch when God takes your life.

its a part of nature. if you dont want to live in nature than thats your problem.

God gives you the life. God takes. cant you handle this simple fact?

or do you want to have your own tyranny over death? with all your weak mind and justfying nature?

you make your own morality and try to judge God with it. well good luck. from here you just look like youre making excuses for a failed life and looking for something to blame.

i would say that my morality condemns lazy asses who whine and cry about God at every second and try to find a blame for the fact that the world they created themselves sucks.

you let people die, dont blame God for it.

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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Had to ignore my simple questions Eh?

You did not like your own answers.

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DL
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:iconsiegeonthorstadt:
siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
You had a question? It was a rhetorical shoot-at that doesnt have any backing, as it could be proven by how you didnt answer my reply.
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
People need to stop going over these stories over and over again, and just write most of them off as untrue or distorted.

Lucifer = A term used to describe the King of Tyre and Babylon. Incorrectly translated from Latin. Has NOTHING to do with Satan.
Sataan = A term used in the old testament to describe an Adversary, Human, natural, or supernatural of Yahweh. (Pronounced Sah-tan) It means adversary.
Satan = The Devil in the New Testament only.
The Serpent = in the Garden of Eden, is implied to be Satan in the new testament, but the Torah clearly describes him as being a snake and nothing else.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
We likely would ignore it if it did not distort Christian morality that says it is ok to punish the innocent instead of the guilty.

It is our duty to correct poor moral thinking.

Regards
DL
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:iconcammieobscura:
CammieObscura Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
And snakes have the ability to talk?
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:iconkalinka-shadows:
Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
There's a talking donkey in there too. In the Bible, certain animals can talk.
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:iconcammieobscura:
CammieObscura Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
But it was God talking to therm through the donkey. In the case of the serpent talking to Eve, it was the devil.
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:iconabstract-mindser:
Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012
I don't know? Why did the Triforce do Ganondorf's bidding?
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:icontotally-dead:
Totally-dead Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Because it is just a thing, not the actual gods!
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:iconabstract-mindser:
Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
But wasn't it imbibed with the will of the Goddesses?
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:icontotally-dead:
Totally-dead Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Only their power, unless I am mistaken.
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:iconcatapultedcarcass:
CatapultedCarcass Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know? Why did Gandalf do Saruman's bidding?
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PuzzledHeartBox Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
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