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November 29, 2012


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Is New Atheism a new priestly order?

carusmm Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Richard Dawkins looks and sounds like a pastor, and the others look and sound convinced of their own worth. The New Atheists have their rituals. The New Atheists have a hierarchy. The New Atheists have their seminal texts.

If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. What do you reckon?

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brainninja11 Dec 7, 2012  Student General Artist
I understand why people like to draw this parallel, but atheism isn't a religion. Skepticism isn't a religion. The main reason? Anything that Richard Dawkins or any other atheist says can be questioned and examined. Nothing is beyond skepticism. If people don't see that, then it could become religious-like, but I know that I don't keep up with 'mainstream atheism.' I just don't care about not believing in god enough to follow all that all the time.
blackpoppies Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Depends where you put the boundaries on things like 'religion' and 'priestly order'. I've heard arguments that football can be considered a religion by most definitions, but the fact is that it just isn't. It's so blurry with things like this that you can fit all the categories and still not really be a priestly order.

I'd also point out that the 'seminal texts' you speak of aren't given authority or considered to be unquestionable/inspired by anything greater than the authors themselves, which is a huge distinction that needs to be made.
ReptillianSP2011 Dec 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Can there be atheistic cults? Yes.

Is atheism is a cult? No.
carusmm Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yes, Dawkins is the messiah to millions. No, I don't agree with such worship.
sagethethird Dec 2, 2012   Traditional Artist
As an atheist I don't really like Richard Dawkins, especially after he made some misogynistic remarks about some girl the article of which is here [link]

I like scientists. people who are forwarding progress by actually doing things instead of pissing creationists off. Teachers, who instead of instigating creationists actually teach evolution in a non-sarcastic way.

As an atheist I don't understand why we need a movement when science was doing that quite well for centuries XD
carusmm Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What do you expect of a cult? The Word is the Word and that's all there is to it.
sagethethird Dec 2, 2012   Traditional Artist
cult? atheism? :rofl: a viewpoint yes, but nothing but.

No I just voiced my dislike for Richard Dawkins based off of a misogynistic remark.

Maybe we do need a movement after all then...

though you need neither a movement nor a cult to be atheist, though a cult should not be confused with a movement. A movement is like Dadaism (art), or progressivism (politics), a cult is like the Westboro Baptist Church.

where did you get "cult" out of New Atheists? wow.
xTernal7 Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The New Atheists have their rituals.
Hmm, that's a new one for me.

The New Atheists have a hierarchy
Lolwut, incorrect.

The New Atheists have their seminal texts.
Never heard of any.

If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck.
Wrong. If Chuck Norris says it's a cow, then it's a cow.
Alphasunking Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
some atheists groups do act like a religion but whats wrong with that? Yeah its a little weird to me but if its what they wanna do nothing wrong with that
Not sure I'm following you.

Guy standing at a podium talking = pastor
Is the President a pastor?

What rituals?

There are those who are famous for their opinions on religion, but there's no chain-of-command amongst atheism. And even if there was a hierarchy, not all of them pertain to religion.

There is nothing holy about each book. They're only books that contain either opinions or demonstrable facts. If I burn a stack of Qu'rans, someone might want to put a fatwa out on me. If I burn a pile of collected Hitchens, Dawkins, or Sagan's books, nothing of the sort will happen. There are no guidelines on how to handle such books, whereas my grandmother taught me growing up that it was profane to put anything on top of a Bible.
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