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A quote "War does not prove who is right only who is left" Discuss

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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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WhiskyOmega Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
I could agree with that quote.
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HotelChelseaNights Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
and since whom ever is left writes history, they have to pleasure of being right. For a little while.
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Untrue. Mongols have a bad rep despite taking mover most of Asia, parts of Europe, being the biggest land empire ever, an writing a lot of books.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Ever watch CrashCourse history on youtube?
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Nope.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Practically every episode mentions the Mongols.
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HotelChelseaNights Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I don't believe the Mongolian Empire portrayed themselves as less righteous than the civilizations they conquered.
They acquired a bad reputation ex post facto and in lands out side there influence.
Much like some of the polices the U.N. via and or U.S. powers carry out today are taught to be believed as the struggle of the righteous.
How will we read?
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
The problem with the Mongolian Empire is they happen to conquer people who could also read and write and they didn't establish Mongolian as a francalingua, instead opting simply to learn the language of the conquer or using Arab or Chinese which many people already knew. Survivals would also go to other countries and tell them how horrible it was is that those countries could also put it down as Mongolians were crazy, even if their rule comparatively to the time wasn't too unusual. So it's a case of the conquerers not writing history.
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HotelChelseaNights Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Not the history we read to today. It would be very disappointing if eventually, in the event of another global land grab, let us just for kicks say the U.S.A. was said conquest; (Better yet lets say You vs. Me); that the usurper did not make some "Right" over Wrong argument on there behalf. In which to the victor go the spoils of war, not limited to, but to a Large extent including the accepted dictation of history. Of which some of it must contain a justification and implication of Right doing in your actions as well as a lot of sweeping under the rug. This will be globally distributed on a scale (well you know). Okay now your the victor, anyone who did not like me more than you was was just downright disgusted with my ages of Authoritarian rule, would then jump on the bandwagon smear campaign. But pockets of upheaval and unrest here and there as well as poor Frank over there whom you trampled to get to me would be reeling; writing another history. And when you got weak, overextended, short sighted, slothful, old and arrogant, low of resources with to much to look after and too few to trust. Here come Frank and sons to the rescue. Unfortunately by then the the dwindling tree population has put tree's on the endangered species list indefinitely. The debaucherous aristocratic elite have seized hold of the worlds supply of paper documentation to support there recycled paper mache diaper fetish and the only source of information is party controlled wold wide web 3.14159 where the last reference of an A. Lincoln was a man attempting to save a country in it's infancy from the separatist cries of the southern and largely Vampire controlled states all while attempting to kick a massive addiction to Intellivision's Pong. Mean while the worlds oceans have receded to the point that, due to fishing bans put in place to save the dolphins, who it turns out just make weird noises and tuna who were really the ancient beings capable of extraterrestrial communication are extinct, are to polluted with the squealing dolphin's feces to drink. Scientists are scrambling to find the lost formula for Orange Tang which they've found is the only thing that makes piss palpable (no water). And no one wants to be here because quit frankly were the itchy hemorrhoid on the galaxy's ass. Doesn't history require a little imagination, very little evidence and a whole lotta hearsay, oh I almost left out "I'm Rightness".
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Very true :smoking:
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HotelChelseaNights Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
For thousands of years men have chosen to believe that God is on the side of the righteous, praying, giving sacrifice to, even of the slaughtered. And if you are righteous you cannot lose.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron" - Judges 1:19
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HotelChelseaNights Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Yes I did use the term of God, I merely was using it as reference to the origins of "Righteousness", at the right hand of God I believe, don't quote me on that as I am fallible too. Not that all whom use that banner are in fact "Righteous" or Judaeo/Christian. But that sort of propaganda, propaganda of the righteous regardless of/or as to any Religious affiliation will here by be referred to by me as simply "Who Is Right" in beliefs on the subject of "War does not prove who is right only who is left".
And I still believe that since whom ever is left writes history, they have to pleasure of being right. For a little while. Much like the bible.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
That quote has always seemed to me to be in opposition to a position that only the radically jingoistic actually hold, but such people will not hear it.
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gvcspecks Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
unless they were originally arguing over who would be left.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm sure most people in this day and age don't literally believe that war automatically chooses who is morally superior. They just want to use it because they think they already are.
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am waiting foo someone to give the "correct" answer
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cake-fiend Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not a question. :|
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rockstar1009 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Correct being a synonym for right? Is this all supposed to be a riddle? :roll:
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Literally it means war does not prove who is right only who is left (standing) :sherlock:
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*for
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EldingaGunman Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
There is no correct answer. Unless this is a riddle, in which case you should just have said so in the first place.
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EldingaGunman Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
Well that depends on what exactly the two sides are fighting about in the first place..
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ok ,I see your point
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Vicsor-S3 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well obviously. You don't enter a boxing match in order to match wits.
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LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sinister, you say?
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what do you mean by that?
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LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Sinister comes from the Latin word sinistra which means "left". :la:
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see..
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LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The quote talks about the survivors of war. Since I feel like being annoying, I was talking about how war is evil.
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I cannot say "war" is evil, as war is not an entity. It is however an effect of and instigated by, evil people. IMO
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LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It can be viewed as a kind of murder and several people believe the act of murder is inherently evil.
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sylor41 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see your point
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