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Worse and best kind of afterlife

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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist
Which is the worse kind of afterlife for you?

Which is the best kind of afterlife for you?

For me it would be this

Worse-you are trapped in darkness forever. There's no sound, no light, no nothing. But you can feel as you are trapped there without actually feeling. It's like a prison of darkness for you.

Best-Technological heaven.
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tdroid Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Not sure what would be the worst, but probably the one that brings me eternal boredom.

As for the best, I am not sure there ether. Of the ones that have been invented in the past I'd go with Valhall, that sounds fun. Other than that, I'd say the one that allows me to express creativity and be the most entertained would be the best.
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Vanhir Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Any and all afterlifes seem terrifying to me.
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sagethethird Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
if there were these things. which there isn't, but I can entertain a thought without excepting it :)

the best kind? certainly one were I'd get to go back to a start screen, select "new game" or review past games (lives) and view all the achievements I got from them (like skydiving and black hole event horizon surfing) and when I select "new game" I'd be able to customize my body, when I am born (but I couldn't choose previous bodies or bodies friends once inhabited) and where I am born. I'd get to talk to all the beings of that "real" universe that apparently never die and created the simulation just to not be bored.

so an afterlife of endless simulated lives. in buddhism that's what you're NOT trying to achieve haha, so I'd be a shitty Buddhist.

the worst kind? say if I was in said universe, but I was really bad at the simulation, I'd be sent to the start screen and only be able to choose say, a character that was most definitely going to die of leprosy, or an artist that went blind before he could make money off of his art and became homeless and died of starvation.

in that one, I'd be looking to achieve Nirvana, and get out of the universe altogether and end my suffering. in that one I'd be a really awesome Buddhist lol
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inezuu Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Worst: Reincarnation with no recollection of who or what you once were, and you have to start everything from scratch. Makes it useless to work for things now, if you have to work for the same things later.
Best: Being able to build upon what I know now, pretty much just an extension of my current life.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student Writer
I like the Greek mythology one, Hypnos (god of sleep) makes you sleep, and Thanatos (god of death) plays a flute, you follow him into the Greek Underworld.
I don't like the Christian death. It's like, 'Believe in my puny religion or rot in hell forever'. Not very nice.
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Keydan Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Reincarnation with all experience would be nice... But there probably is no afterlife, so why bother.
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DragonsNapalm Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
Worst: Christian afterlife. Eternal pain and suffering for finite transgressions.

Best: Don't know... methinks the Zoroastrian afterlife. From what I remember reading, it's just like life here on Earth, but without the crippling pains that drive people to depression and lifelong unhappiness that we have. That, and since the government is run by Ahura Mazda (i.e. God), who seems like a pretty cool/wise dude, things work out pretty well.
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MARX-MAN Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Artist
"Which is the worse kind of afterlife for you?

Which is the best kind of afterlife for you?

For me it would be this

Worse-you are trapped in darkness forever. There's no sound, no light, no nothing. But you can feel as you are trapped there without actually feeling. It's like a prison of darkness for you.

Best-Technological heaven."
~ReptillianSP2011 in Worse and best kind of afterlife
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Everybody who makes this case forgets one important factor...

You need a body to feel things.

Like the passage of time, if you don't have any cognisance of time then any amount of time vanishes in an apparent blink, even eternities. Take sleep for example... It is your eyes shut for 8 HOURS!

Your mind turns off your time perceptibility, you simply don't remember sleeping, imagine how boring and what a nightmare sleep would be if you remembered every minute of it, remember, you actually get paralysed in your sleep by the mechanisms used to keep you alive during sleep and your eyes move so fast that if you were aware of thier movement it would make you physically sick, so after a couple of hours of sitting and doing nothing but snickering your eyes and maybe snoring you would be pretty disheartened to the idea of ever sleeping again... but no, sleep doesn't work like that and dumb-asses like you think that death is like "rest" but forget that perception of time is not an option when you are resting.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Of course you need a body to feel things and of course death in the no more life scenario is nothing like sleep. The most likely scenario is that one does not perceive anything at all. There's other scenario like cyclical existence, but you still won't know you were here if it true. I think you're forgetting that there is time perception in sleep as in you dream and there's different time perceptions. Even in anesthesia (I been through surgery recently), there is still time perception (at least for me). That sleep period lasted 2 seconds. All in all, death is really about not knowing what happened during your life time no matter how you spin the scenario of existence whether it's cyclical or it isn't.
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MARX-MAN Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Professional Artist
Death is merely the ceasing of functionality of a body.

Whether or not there is a soul or essence that carries on after the body is dead is literally immaterial to me and shouldn't be worried about.

The actions that my brain decides are based primarily on the things I have encountered during my life and the limitations of my body, including recall, processing power and logical knowledge, including conditioning to a way off thinking with regards to learned morality. These things are individual to a bodies experiences and do not reflect the decision making abilities of an essence. Most afterlives are considered to be based on the performance of the individual during life, but this is a stupid idea as a living beings actions are determined prodominently by exposure.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Yes, I agree with you though I still fear death itself.
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MARX-MAN Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Professional Artist
Why?
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Because I hate the idea of not being able to have consciousness, it's simple as that. Right now, the only theory I'm looking forward to is LQG since it seems promising and the universe will then be replaced by the big bounce in spite of our universe's apparent acceleration if LQG is confirmed as a whole. You may ask why do I look for a big bounce? If the mechanism of the big bounce is perfect and you came from a big bounce, then probability principle suggests you being born from a long history of the big bounce is gonna happen again even if it takes a hundred or a thousand big bounce meaning you're pretty much nonexistent for a long time, but not forever. I have 0 problem with death itself, but I do have a problem with the non-consciousness forever part.
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MARX-MAN Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Professional Artist
Nothing can be done post-mortem to change what has occurred during life.

If you outsmart the system and get away with it, that's it, you have done it and it is in the history of the universe until it ends.

If a person believes that one is punished after death for the crimes of life, why punish the crimes occurring during life, surely any punishment during life would cancel the need for a punishment after life.
Basically if a killer gets caught, gets the death penalty for his crime, how can a post mortem judge not say that his crime has already been punished, It just seems like a one way ticket to heaven for him, it just makes no sense.
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FerricPlushy Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Well according to many sects of christianity regardless if you're a murderer or child rapist, if you're truly repentant of your sins and accept jesus christ as your savior, you go to heaven where it's all old people and aborted fetuses. That sounds like the worst afterlife. While Valhalla on the otherhand where you fight all day and drink and eat and party all night sounds amazing
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Abstract-Mindser Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
The worst kind of afterlife is one where your free will is stripped; the Abrahamic ones come to mind.

The best sort of afterlife is to transcend.
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Vampiric-Conure Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Best - Really depends. I like the idea of being able to do whatever I want, with friends and family and guardians (angels?). Love to see pets again! At the same time, complete and utter nothingness where I don't have to do anything is pure bliss. No people to talk to about all the wrongs in your life, no singing hymns for eternity. JUst the peace that comes with death and dying.

Worst - Reincarnation. I'm sorry. I hate the idea of coming back again and again and again to fix every little thing. Too much pain in this world. Humans suck. I also hate the idea of being forced to reincarnate. (The irony is that I also believe in reincarnation...). At the same time, nothingness kinda sucks, but I would be dead so it wouldn't matter!
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IncendiaAngelus Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ick, reincarnation. That'd suck, after having learned so much in one lifetime, you have to do it all over again in a new one? And what if you end up in some icky place or in some crappy diseased body or something? That'd suck.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
I can see your viewpoint. However, I have to point out that reincarnation does not always have to do with fixing every little things, materialistic reincarnation involves the world-view that the universe will have it cycle and you just become someone else after certain amount of universe bounce. There's no rule within each reincarnation and you just wake up at birth each time. If it were true, there may have been a point where you had sex with your sibling as in that sibling used to be someone else and you used to be something else while you both weren't siblings (I know, disturbing thought, but that's the premise of infinite iteration of big bounce effect). Materialistic reincarnation can be compatible with what we see in the universe only because all scenarios of big bounce haven't been ruled out just as of yet such as holographic scalar dark energy ,loop quantum gravity, 2 big branes, or even dynamic steady state universe where the universe will act like a expanding universe even though rematerialization occurs. I'm not saying this is true, but...
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Earthtalon Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Worst: Boring endless fields.
Best: A place where you had a house and food was free and such but if you worked you could get better stuff for i- oh screw it BEST is obviously where you can live out your sick fantasies...
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Black-Allison Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
Reincarnation. The joy of experience.

Worst is purgatory. [link] I HAVE TO DO SHIT?!
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Worse - nothingness.
best - nothingness.
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
When you are dead...That's it nothing. There is no afterlife. Why should there be?
What you are describing is someone who is trapped in their body. Blind, deaf and mute. That is a living hell and many people on this Earth are trapped in living hells. Being dead would be a release from their torture.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, it's possible that there's something rather than a nothing without having an afterlife if existence itself is cyclical which is why I look forward to gravitational theory test (I hope LQG shows up as true). I wish I could support either materialistic reincarnation or one-time-only life idea, but alas why should anyone claim shit when no one knows about existence no matter how much we know about the universe? That being said, I believe in nothing about death, I don't believe there's a something or a nothing.

And yes, it would most likely be a release from their torture unless rematerialistic reincarnation is true and they end up in that state again by chance.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
In b4 edgy tee...

...Wait, I'm too late for that I guess.

Best: Anything which subtracts the more pathetic things having a human body entails.

Worst: Perpetual reincarnation. Human bodies are disgusting. Whether I cease to exist or not, either is preferable to knowing you are forced to inhabit a disgusting one forever. Never-mind how insulting it would be to have all your mental life accomplishments reduced to monetary gain, and you start over with a personality once again full of the same flaws you already overcame, with nothing you can do about it.
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CaptainFantasy Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
I see the whole situation differently. I've been living with mental illness and schizophrenia since childhood, and my consciousness and spirit is pretty useless and pathetic. Reincarnation might be a plus, because for every disgusting grotesque body you get a lifetime, there's always a chance you'll get put in a fun usable sexy one every once in a while. The true hell would be dealing with the same consciousness I have now for an eternity (in whatever afterlife I'd end up in), and since I don't have any mental life accomplishments to speak of, I'd be as reviled in the next life as I am in this one.
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Penhuin Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Worst: Nowhere
Best: Somewhere.
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ruelariat Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
For me, immortality on an earth similar to ours would be nice; but that's just cause I'm scared of dying >.<
The worst kind (which, unfortunately is the one I believe is true) is absolute nothingsness. You don't even know you're dead because you're not conscious of anything after you've died. You just cease existing and there's nothing.
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VictoryWept Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
But you will not be AWARE that it is nothingness. You will not remember living, you will be unaware. You will cease to exist, and there will no longer be any bodily or spiritual functions, according to that belief.

So is it really so bad?
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, I still hope to live in another body with no spiritual connotation. I don't mind death itself, but nonexistence isn't something I want. I rather be born in each cycle.
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ruelariat Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
It's in my nature to persist so personally I just find it terrifying that I won't even know I'm dead >.<
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VictoryWept Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Now THAT I can understand. :hug:
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ruelariat Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Woo hug :hug:
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VictoryWept Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
^.^
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Sabamenides Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Well, in my opinion any afterlife would be better than none at all. Barring that, I guess the worst would be, as you described, being trapped in darkness, conscious but absolutely restrained. Like permanent sleep paralysis, or a constant nightmare-like state of panic without any sensation to relieve it.

As for the best possible case, well, mine is kind of a cheat. I dream of transcendence to a god-like state where I can shape universes to my will and also choose to spend a lifetime as a regular being within my own creations, returning to this demiurgic state after each death, with the usual "forget everything and then remember" deal. This way, I can explore and experience all possibilities, past and present, even those that are impossible in our world, for an eternity. It would be, in other words, the embodiment of infinity, and it's only logical when creating stories is what I like the most.
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TheAwsomeOpossum Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Wow... your nightmare sounds like Outer Darkness. =/

Though you certainly can feel. It feels awful =p.
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TheaAtherea Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012   General Artist
Worst for me would be nothing, non-existence. Not that I've experienced eternal torture or anything, but at this point I would prefer that over losing myself, even though I wouldn't have any knowledge of having lost myself. It's hard to explain, but nothingness is the reason I have an extreme case of death anxiety. Any afterlife at all would be preferable to me.

Best case scenario would simply be living forever, but if I have to die, I would like to live on in some way or form that would be comfortable and keep me interested. I could explore or daydream or interact with other beings and be happy forever like that.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
I get that feeling, you simply enjoy having a consciousness no matter what the state because you want to know you're there and nothing more and nothing less. It doesn't matter what the overall state of existence, you simply have more patience and respect for consciousness more than a lot of people.
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Ruwich Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Worse: Hell.

Best: Everyday lucid dreaming in Heaven. Nothing can hurt me.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
:lol: technological heaven.

You hate the idea of oblivion huh?

I would prefer eternity here actually...
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist
Yep, I hated the idea of oblivion since I was 5 years old and now I still do. I just hope LQC (the universe is replaced with a big bounce and this big bounce model is said to be compatible with our observation) is proven to be a valid alternative to the current cosmological model after the test of gravity.
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Ragerancher Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Hard to say what worst kind is. Any sort of torture would be pretty horrible whether physical or mental.

Best would be being permenantly happy and content. Don't need any reason to feel that way.
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
I wrote a story once about what a continuation of life would be after death. (It's up to the reader whether it is perceived that the whole thing was a dream, or happening in the main character's mind.

It's the story about a Warlock who has died, and he doesn't know that he has died at first. He's in Heaven, depending on how you look at it. He wakes up and is laying in a grassy gnoll by a road, he gets up and walks down the road to a town. This world is populated by Humans, and an elf-like race of people. Once in town, he is directed to an Inn run by a beautiful Elf Innkeeper usually named Maria. Because he has no money, the Innkeeper allows him to stay anyway. He is given a very nice room. The Inn's employees cook for him.

He begins exploring the town and getting to know people around town. But the Innkeeper starts treating him more and more like her Husband, and acting like his wife, and the Inn employees more like servants. While he seems to stay permanently, other Inn guests, who are ordinary Humans, come and go.

He makes trips to other towns. He gets to know other Elf Residents. He runs into situations where he meets a Human child of about age 11 or 12 with two (adoptive) Elf parents. The boy says that he suspects that he didn't recover after his 'accident' he said he had where everything went black and he woke up in the hospital. He says he knows that the Elf parents aren't his real parents, but they are nice. He just wish he knew where he'd been taken.

He suspects he is dead, the Elf people avoid bringing it up. Some Humans believe they are still alive, others believe they are dead. He explores more and structures that serve different purposes, and even a jail. He scales the jail, which is laughably insecure with little to stop him, and speaks to a woman imprisoned there. She says she was wrongfully convicted and sentenced to be executed for killing her Husband, which she denies doing, she said the woman that he was cheating with killed her.

The woman claims to have just woken up in this much nicer minimum security jail. The warlock main character suspects she actually was executed, but has no memory of it ever happening. The imprisoned woman says that she believes her sentence was commuted in favor of life imprisonment, and she is grateful it's in such a comfortable place, and hopes some day the truth will be discovered about who really killed her husband. The main character is then spotted by guards and must escape.

Is this a dream the main character is having?
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EbolaBearVomit Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Stupid humans like to think they'll be happy in some fantasy forever world when they can't even handle a traffic jam without cursing or wanting to kill.

If it's close to the afterlife I'd be all for the immaterium in the 40k universe.

The worst version of an afterlife is the Abrahamic bullshit.
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Didj Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Best: Valhalla. Get to spend your afterlife eating drinking fucking and fighting.

Worst: I guess that the Christians invented a rather unappealing version of hell. And I'm talking the conversion propaganda hell with the fire and torment and all that jazz.
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Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012
Best: traversing time and space in the TARDIS.

Worst: heaven.
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VictoryWept Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Digital Artist
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EscarlataFox Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Student General Artist
There was that picture which says hell-free beers, strippers, science and heaven-endless praying, endless preaching... Something like that, I wish I knew where is that picture.
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