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Is this humane?

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After--Life Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Tell me if this is humane, a moral thing to do.

Forming groups and persecuting people based on their religious views, even though these religious victims are greatly stereotyped and misunderstood by the general media.

The persecutors, running around, murdering, killing, raping, innocent people, BRUTALLY.

Taking spears and hanging dead babied, blood shed is all they want.

Would YOU live in a society like THAT?

Is this a MORAL thing to do?

If you said YES, then you can leave this thread.
If you said NO, continue reading.

Have you heard what is going on in Burma?

Simple, Buddhists killing Muslims. Now of course, I am not blaming Buddhists here, but this is what is going on. These radical Buddhists are doing complete IMMORAL things to these INNOCENT and poor Islamic victims, they are helpless, and they are being treated like Jews in concentration camps. Yet, the world ignores it.

If you were of those people who said NO, this is not humane, but now you're opinion has suddenly changed because I mentioned 'Muslims', you are officially a biased hypocrite.

If you still think this is an immoral act in a nation, then GOOD, you are a type of person that needs to live a LONG life in this world to help correct all this corruption. People like you I and many others respect.

On towards the two-faced people who think this is justifiable, you are simply close-minded.

If you support the persecution in Burma, saying things like "All Muslims are terrorists anyway, go BURMA! KILL THOSE BASTARDS!" or something similar, go take a trip over to NASA and fly yourself to outer space and skydive over the sun please, thank you.

Anyway, I am seeing a lot of people like this, supporting the killings in Burma.

If these Muslims were Christians or Jews or other Buddhists, then nobody would be supporting Burma, they will be HATING the people of Burma and probably the Buddhists there.

Talk about hypocrites. *sigh*.

The point that I am trying to get across is that. A lot of people hate on Muslims because they call US terrorists, violent, untruthful people, you can insert all negative adjectives here.

And yet, these same people are willing to support anyone who commits these atrocities for their own personal victories, including the destruction of Islam, which will never happen.

Mark my words, children of Adam (as), that day will come, when every human being that existed will be lined up before God and we will all witness who is gonna take a dip in some divine wrath.

Excuse my frustrations.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am a Buddhist, and this is embarrassing. however, let me tell you once again that what they are doing has no basis in Buddhism, because in Buddhism scripture, there is nothing which could even remotely be used to justify violence toward other living beings (not only humans). for example, take a look at this: the sutta of universal love for all living beings: [link]

peace and wassalam
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MatthewMatters Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional General Artist
Do understand that no actual Buddhist is actually capable of such act if he wishes to hold on to his faith. In Buddhism there could be no worse act than harming another living being.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Untrue. Yes there is no worse act by their understanding but they are to be punished accordingly within the concepts of their faith. Their actions are somewhat independent of their beliefs. Technically you can do whatever the hell you want in Buddhism it's just not recommended due to the idea that you get what you give. Either in this life or the next.
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MatthewMatters Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional General Artist
Our understanding when you're talking to me, actually.

To murder anything is to work against all Dharma there is. Practicing such an act disturbs zen in just about any way possible imaginable. Again, no man willing to murder is actually a Buddhist at heart.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Most samurai were Buddhists. They believed their punishment was to be reincarnated as samurai. So in a sense their path to enlightenment is lengthened substantially.
That said I thought that only through experiencing everything was a requirement to reach enlightenment?

"If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha." - Meaning no man has the same path to enlightenment.
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MatthewMatters Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Professional General Artist
The Bushido is a whole different deal, though in fairness it is another code I follow. Of course the Bushido itself does not exactly go into the matter of killing apart from suicide.

The Bushido and Buddhism go hand in hand with many things, but killing is the only major contradiction -- and extremely major at that. However, as all Samurai in fact pursued total piece of mind, they were also constantly pursuing Buddhist ideals. Indeed, if a Samurai could kill without the slightest negative emotion but perfect clarity of mind, then it could be argued he still had the potential to reach Nirvana: however, from a truly Buddhist point of view, killing remains simply unacceptable for the very five precepts forbid the act of destroying life.

Reaching Nirvana - or enlightenment if you would - is to no more feel desire towards anything: to have utter mind peace free of want. To have experienced everything is hardly a necessity. In Buddhist beliefs, a soul after all does not exist by it's western meaning: reincarnation is not your soul moving on to live another life, but more your life energy moving on instead of settling down and being at peace.
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angelxxuan Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Student General Artist
once upon a time, Buddhists killed Christians, so it's probably not much different now. certain countries "wants" their religion to be the dominate one and don't allow any others to reside. all of those things people do now, creating groups to ridicule many people of many walks of life, size, height, appearance, age and so forth. only "humans" can break the change and "do the right thing" and since there is really "no line" dedicated to this fine line it's all over the charts !
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Welcome to the world. The mildest major religion on the planet has members capable of that.

But I seriously hope this is only based on the acts committed. You are not avoiding the fact that Muslims elsewhere are no better in their own actions? That as far as the general view on both religions, those actions are extremely strange to Buddhism compared with more commonly seen actions of equal magnitude done in the name of Islam?
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Except for the Jains. (possibly?)
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I am not sure if I can classify that as major on the scale we are talking about, but I would guess you are right.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Oh yeah your right they are a minor religious group.
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ssensory Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012   Writer
Those Buddhists are obviously not very true to their religion. It is not right to kill any kind of living creature - every Buddhist should know that.

Buddhist or not though, killing people is VERY immoral.
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012   Traditional Artist
Mass killing is not fine no matter which group does it and which group recieves it. That should be pretty obvious to everyone :shrug:
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1sidedownand2up Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its completely inhumane, given that true Buddhists are some of the most peaceful people there is. I think the Burmese government is the one responsible, given it used to be a dictatorship until recently with a history of persecution. Such reckless acts like tend to show there is a major problem at the top.
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
I'm a child of Lilith, thank you. :iconsmokeplz:

But yeah. Really dickish thing to do. And here I thought Buddhists were at least mostly peaceful.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012
Lilith is one of my favorite mythological characters and Darkstalker.
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Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
At first, I thought you were talking about the Crusades. Silly me.

Trust me, no higher power is going to punish humanity for its heinous acts.
Quoting Saeter, "Finite crimes do not deserve infinite punishment"

These actions have happened over and over throughout history; some religion-based, some not. It's what our species tends to do. We wreck each other, blame it on our gods and try to ignore our demons as we live with our crimes.

What these people are doing to each other isn't new.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
"Mark my words, children of Adam (as), that day will come, when every human being that existed will be lined up before God and we will all witness who is gonna take a dip in some divine wrath."

In know it's a bit off subject though, I believe as much as the next person that you should get what you deserve but I find the "divine wrath" (if that means Hell) a cruel and unusual punishment. Finite crimes do not deserve infinite punishment.

As for the subject itself I wonder would all this violence occur if there were no Buddhists or Muslims?
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dorkface4 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
The Buddhists and the Muslims in Burma have been fighting for ages. Not saying it's right, but you're acting like the Muslims haven't killed/harmed the Buddhists. BOTH sides have been killing each other.

And people are stupid and judge everyone based on only a small group of extreme fanatics. There are wonderful, nice, good Muslims just like there are horrendous, terrible Christians/Buddhists/whatever.
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TheSpiderFromMars Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Good thread. I hate this anger that some people feels towards muslims! I mean, where did this hate come from. ALL people - no matter what religion you belong to - have done terrible things throughout our history.:no:
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And the religions have been hated for those actions in the past in the same way they are now. You answered your own question, it's only human to judge something based on the brief information we can collect on them, it's just stereotyping and it's quite natural, there are many reasons we do it that help us more than hinder.
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TheSpiderFromMars Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, but it's wrong to put a whole religion to blame for some single people's action. I must admit that I sometimes do it myself, whatever the religion is, and we all have to try our best to put it aside.
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Atlantech Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this shit has been happening for ages, nothing new.
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Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
I have no problem with letting religious kill each other off.
I'll watch from the side and laugh.

P.S
My old man's name isn't Adam, so I guess I'm fine.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Muslims acquire victimhood so easily, you'd reckon butter wouldn't melt their mouths.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
*melt in their mouths
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"Radical" does NOT mean "aggressive" or "extremist". I, as a radical traditionalist, object calling a bunch of murderous fanatics by that name. "Radical" derives from the word "radix", which means "root". So, it is aimed at the foundations of whatever it is attached to. Religious radicalism means that it goes back to the base or origin of said religion, and I don't think that the essence of religion is being an ignorant and discriminative mass-murderer.

Though I agree that there may be some situations in which killing of people would be permitted, but that would be a way more immediate danger, not merely representing a religion.
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Saeter Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
Well if you do go to the 'root' of at the very least the Abrahamic religions they are inherently violent, homophobic, xenophobic, racist, narcissistic, self righteous beliefs.
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OrangeKrissy Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
This kind of stuff happens all over the world, not just in Burma. Is it any worse what the Japanese did to the people in Burma during WWII?
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012
It's called hypocricy, and it's nothing new.

"Mark my words, children of Adam (as), that day will come, when every human being that existed will be lined up before God and we will all witness who is gonna take a dip in some divine wrath."

:slow: Okie dokie then
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After--Life Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Student Digital Artist
Lol at that smiley face, and yes, totally agreed.
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