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What is morality?

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BeyondSleepy Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I see people debating about what is moral and what is not without addressing what morality is (our answer to this question has consequences for how we should talk about morality), so I'd like to ask you a few questions about it.

What is morality?

Do you agree with moral realism (that morality is a objective fact about the universe and not just a construction of human thoughts)? If so, why? If not, why not?

If moral anti-realism is true and morals are just our cultural and personal (or even evolotionary?) constructions, what then about moral discourse and moral behavior in general? What are the consequences of this view?

Likewise for moral realism: consequences of this view?
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:iconmattyohh:
Morals are simply a matter of time.
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:iconx-darkangel-xx:
Moral is your view of right or wrong.
emphasis here on 'your' view

There is sadly no universal Moral law code, but we can go by the original foundation of modern moral which would be the ten commandments. Irregardless of your view, I find it hard to see anything 'immoral' about them since they are the highest level of morals.
Morals can be added based on how you grew up, but commonly in topics or when accusing somebody it's these morals which were infringed upon.
"Do not steal" since it's immoral. "Do not bear false witness" (lie) etc...

Morals are subject to change & do not always reflect the authority.
If a law is passed which makes taking others art legal (Everything is now open source kinda law) some people will say "It's moral to do so now" (Because it benefits them). When asked why is it moral now but not before? -The government says so
However, if a law is passed that killing jews is now legal... yeah. You can see my argument.
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:iconlyteside:
Conceptual realities exist, such as the law of non-contradiction. So it is also possible that morality is an absolute conceptual reality.

I believe that morality (what "ought" to be) is tied to truth (what "is"). In this sense, the author or owner determines right or wrong in a situation, setting, or possession.
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:iconrichardwsymonds:
According to Mega Theory, Morals (eg Values) are both Subjectively & Objectively Real - Immanent Within & Transcendent Of Our Selves. It's not a case of Either/Or.
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:iconrichardwsymonds:
According to Mega Theory, Morals (eg Values) are both Subjectively & Objectively Real - Immanent Within & Transcendent Of Our Selves. It's not a case of Either/Or.
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Totally-dead Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It is subjectivity around a terminology of what is positive and negative in someones actions.
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:iconbeyondsleepy:
BeyondSleepy Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm sorry. That was kind of vague :hmm:

Is morality the subjectivity around the words used to describe what is (perceived as?) positive and negative in someones actions? This sentence doesn't make a lot of sense to me for some reason. Maybe your terminology has some subjective qualities to which I am not privy and which causes my inability to find meaning in your words?
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Totally-dead Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
It does not make much sense because it`s subjectivity is artificial. It is defining morality on a whole, meaning it cannot really talk in specifics, without being a paragraph listing more specific sub-definitions of morality. IE this is the best I can do with one sentence.

But essentially this is my way of saying that what is called "moral" is what someone percieves as positive in an affective approach to actions, views, intentional laws(in opposition with scientific), etc... And immoral as what is negative in an affective approach to such things.
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:icondutchconnaisseur:
And another endless definition discussion... :sleep:
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:iconbeyondsleepy:
BeyondSleepy Nov 18, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yeah, but I don't want to discuss which definition is correct, I want to discuss which definitions exist and how they affect debates about morality. Surely this is less common than your run-of-the-mill definition discussion. And more important as well. When people talk about morality they may talk about completely different things, in which case their discussion is pointless until the point they agree what they are talking about. They don't have to agree on a 'correct' definition, but they should be aware of what the other person means when they say 'morality'.
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