Good evening, friend. To put my questions into perspective, I am an agnostic that is studing religion and philosophy at the university level, with a focus and love of Christian counter-apologetics (arguments for and against the existance of God from the standpoint of logic).
Coming from an Australian town comprised almost entirely of white Australian Christians and Atheists, I'd never even met someone of the Islamic faith until I moved towns to go to University. When I encountered their faith, I was unable to consider it and it's basic practices, and since you still appear to be answering questions, I'd be honoured to have a few of mine answered.
1. What does the Koran say in regards to other religions or faiths, and does it mention anything in regards to the non-religious? In other words, in the event that I died, what fate would await me in your eyes? 2. Does the Koran have a simply stated set of moral values? The Christian Bible has it's 'ten commandments', amongst other motifs like 'loving your neighbour as yourself'. 3. A Christian would normally view their God as an all good, all powerful being. What view do you (or a mainstream Muslim) hold of their God? 4. What is the significance of the prophet Muhammad? Unlike Christian prophets, whom were normally treated more as messengers, he seems to hold a place of extreme significance. What is his role, and why is he 'worshipped' in the manner he is?
I apologise in advance for the relations to Christianity. If you cannot answer them in that manner, that's ok. I would merely find it easier to understand if the answer was posed in relation to something I'm familiar with.
One question that I have after watching a programme on a British Muslim mum and dad murdering their daughter because she would not do as they told and they brought dishonour to their family. Why do they think that murder is more honourable than dishonour by a female child not obeying them? I hope this is not something that is upheld by any muslim court.
Honor Killings were present before Islam came into this world.
It is a cultural practice that happens in the Middle East, but over the period of time, those generations of people have turned from Pagan ancestry to Islamic ancestry, they still haven't abandoned that immoral practice.
So logically speaking, 'honor killing' has nothing to do with Islam, it is a cultural practice.
Yes all Muslims believe and know that the Koran is flawless . If you read the Koran in English there might be a little misunderstanding. Try to read it in Arabic and you will be surprised in what you will find.
If you believe that the Holy Koran is truly corrupted or in other words has mistakes and that the maker was none other than a human being like you and I then consider it this way: No author in the world has the audacity and the guts to write a book and say that this book is flawless in fact what's really amazing about the Holy book of Koran is that Allah almighty challenges us both Muslims and non Muslims to find one flaw in the Koran:
82. Do they not then consider the Qur'an carefully? Had it been from other than Allah, they would surely have found therein much contradictions.
Allah Subhanah wa ta'ala challenges human kind in many things like making one ayah like the ones in the Koran:
"...And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a surah of the like thereof, and call your witness beside Allah if ye are truthful..."(2:23) "Then let them bring an announcement like it...(52:34)."
"...Then bring a chapter like this...(10:38)."
"..Then bring ten forged chapters like it...(11:13)."
"... They could not bring the like of it, though some of them were aiders of others (17:88)."
Friend if you accept the challenge of The Holy Koran. However be wise and try to read it in the Arabic language because you will certainly misunderstand some parts because the Koran is filled with metaphors that can only be understood in the Arabic language like: “And, out of kindness, lower to them (your parents) the wing of humility …”. Obviously, humility does not have a wing to lower. But from the context we understand: be kind to your parents, etc.
Note that Allah has invited both Muslims and non-Muslims to find a single mistake in the Koran. Many sheikhs who are Muslims themselves have tried and eventually failed to find a single flaw. Good luck.
'“And, out of kindness, lower to them (your parents) the wing of humility …”. Obviously, humility does not have a wing to lower. But from the context we understand: be kind to your parents, etc.' That one is actually pretty simple (and not well used), and metaphors are not hard to understand, believe me.
It's surprising that people are ready to defend such book with that amount of vigor. I mean, it's one of the poorest examples of literacy, from the technical point of view no better than Mein Kampf (which is often used as an example of how not to write a book)
1. In qu'ran it is said that Alexander The Great is a muslim, whereas he lived 900 years before islam was born, educated in polytheistic culture and abused his religion using it for politics.
1. I don't feel like searching right now, but you said it was Cyrus. If so, the argument remains valid. It's still a person who is called a muslim about 900 years BEFORE islam was born. Only someone with lack of basic knowledge of history could make such a mistake.
2. As above.
3. Why not? You said that mistakes in qur'an are 'lowering the wing of humility' (if not, what would it be? This statement would be totally irrelevant to the case). That, on the other hand didn't make sense to me, especially when you wanted to prove that there are NO mistakes.
1. Just visit this [link] and this argument will be settled...
It was Cyrus and not Alexander, and also, every prophet in Islam is considered a Muslim, it is a generally accepted fact by ALL Muslims.
The word Muslim means one who submits themselves to God. Cyrus the Great was obviously a great legend, he pleased God, and thus, was mentioned in the Qur'an. Alexander the Great was the complete opposite, and did many horrible things.
You have no clear justification of any mistake so far.
3. I still do not understand what you are trying to state here. Forgive me.
You stated earlier in a response that "it is a duty of Muslims to help other especially non-Muslims so they can get a better picture of us, the true picture of Muslims."
Why do you believe that the picture you wish to paint of Muslims is any more correct than the hard-line extremists? I often see people who claim that their interpretation of religion as the "true picture" as you said. This is true for all religions as far as I can tell, 'this' version is the true form and all others are simply misinterpreting things. I would simply like to hear your justification for stating that your picture is any more true than the ones that extremists portray.
The laws of Islam are based primarily off the Holy Qur'an, then the Sunnah and the Ahadith. (Sayings and doings of the Prophet Muhammad (saw)).
Now let us compare the moderate normal Muslims to that of the 'extremists'.
Now there are many different TYPES of 'extremists' so you have to be more specific on this.
But continuing on, I am assuming you are talking about the violent ones, who try to justify their acts of killing innocent civilians for the sake of propagating their religion.
Well this is how we can tell who is right and who is wrong.
Pick up the Qur'an...find ONE verse where it justifies killing innocent people for the propagation of your faith -IN THE PROPER context-.
Don't just choose a random verse in a middle of a chapter, you must read before and after the verses to understand what the Qur'an is talking about. MANY people simply just pick and choose verses in the middle to justify whatever they are trying to, but we easily refute their false claims when we tell them to read in context.
The result is either them accepting their mistakes, or they remain among the ignorant and denying the truth.
The simple way to find the truth is to open and start reading from the actual source itself and see what it says.
If two people are in an argument over how to properly drive a car, why don't we see what the CAR MANUAL has to say?
THEN we can judge WHICH of the two people are CLOSER to the truth than the other...
A well justified and thoughtful stance. The problem is that I cannot read Arabic. I could get the English versions, there are a few good ones, but from what I understand the only way to actually read the Qur'an is in its original Arabic text. I have also heard that, like Jewish scholars do with the Talmud, Islamic scholars of the Qur'an have many different versions of what the verses say or mean. Despite being an antitheist I have no problem with people having religious beliefs as long as they make no attempt to deny anyone else their basic human rights. Atheists, theists, spiritualists, we're all people. I would prefer to say that the ones who are closer to the truth are the ones who are willing to accept that humanity must come before their personal belief system or lack thereof.
There are Qur'ans with commentary, if you are interested.
On every page, there are detailed commentaries by intelligent people that talk about what the English verses mean.
Of course, no translation will ever be a true representation of the original Arabic. But let that be a sign, that the Qur'an, a book compiled 1400 years ago, has still retained it's original Arabic text, and every Qur'an in the world has the exact same Arabic text as another.
There are many different types of translations, and a LOT of them are not that good at all.
If you need to look for a good translation, use this. [link]
Just click on a chapter (Surah) and start reading.
Thanks for the link, I've actually skimmed through a few and owned an English version at one point in time. I learn what I can about everything, but I don't believe in 'signs'. The Bible was only available in Latin for centuries for a reason. I'm all for different groups taking sides on a book, but once the killing begins I question the validity of the book altogether. It's not a judgement made out of spite as no Muslim has ever done me any harm directly in the name of Islam, I simply have a dislike for how far humanity is willing to take things sometimes. I'm not completely ignorant on the subject (as the people who denounce things the loudest often are), I just happen to view all religions with the same distaste. Thank you, again.
I don't think it's only my objective it's every Muslim's objective to clear the picture that non-believers have against Islam. It saddens all Muslims to see such opinion from others about their own religion. Here there is a conflict between extremists and Islam. Did you try covering both sides? It depends really, whether you think the extremist or the Muslims are telling the truth, but in such situation you need to be fair and see both sides. If you take it from me, I would go to Muslim countries or compounds to see their way of life (They won't kill you). Do not take it or hear it from one side. If you want further justification try asking other Muslims and see if they answer the same words as I do. If you think extremists are saying the truth then give me a reason?
I've read through your response several times and at no time did you even attempt to answer my question. I am not interested in searching out the opinions of extremists, they are more than willing to shout it from the rooftops at every possible opportunity. I asked you for your reasoning that your picture was the right one. Your answer to that is to tell me to travel around the world and to ask someone else. I'm uninterested in both options. Please feel free to consider this the end of this conversation. I have no confidence in your ability to provide a convincing reason that your interpretation is any more correct than any other interpretation of Islam. This is nothing personal, I asked a question with the knowledge that there is no clear cut answer. It is a problem that every religious person faces, the inability to provide a convincing argument for why their beliefs are more correct than any other religious beliefs. Thank you for your time.
Hello, No I'm not a priest as I stated before I might not know everything, but as I live my daily life Islamic commands. Every weekday I go to school and learn more and more about my religion. I don't think there is harm if I share my knowledge about my religion. I don't think that you have to have so much knowledge in order to share it with everyone. Maybe my little knowledge will help others. That is what I wish, and it is a duty of Muslims to help other especially non-Muslims so they can get a better picture of us, the true picture of Muslims. Just like what Prophet Muhammad informed us to do.
Right, but your title says people should ask you about Islam. What you should say is that people can ask you about your views on Islam. Seeing as you have not studied it in depth. I was a Christian before, yet I had never read the bible. So I didnt know much even of I was of that religion.
But you see, the only difference between you and I is that you have never read the Bible and I have read the Koran which makes me more capable of answering questions about my religion than you are . You were a Christian before? Now what are you?
2. Depends on what you mean. I thought that at one point Persia stretched into parts of what is now Turkey, and maps on Wikipedia confirm this, but Turks and Persians are generally separate. Different languages too.
2) As far as I know about the Turks, they used to spend sometimes near the steppes, the "Turks" derived from Chinese "Tu Chue" (at least that's from what I've found anyway)But some books will refer to the Turks as Persians. I also know the Turks & Persians speaks different language. But I'm not sure whether they are the same or not & got thrown off even more when this Muslim tried to talk to me about history & they said the Persians invaded the Byzantine Empire & I was like "No no, it's the Turks"
1) Seems strange someone would try convincing you otherwise, but maybe they were just confused?
2) I don't know the history of that era too well so I had to check, but apparently there were wars fought between the Byzantine and Persian empires: [link] So they're not entirely wrong, it just depends on what timeframe we're talking.
1) Well it's the old world here, the Muslims live in closed society, I guess they're being misled or something.
2) The link you've given me is too early. So I dug along on my own & yes, they are the people of the steppes. I guess it's fair enough because Turkey in my tongue is "Turakey" derived from "Turuk" [link] [link] [link] [link]
PS. My impressions with the Turks also came from Medieval 2 total war. They're way not Persian to me. But as I've read something about the Vardariotai, it seems the term "Persians" once use to refer to Muslims from the east than actual Persians.
OK, so they told you that the Persians invaded the Byzantium Empire in the late Medieval era. Yeah, that would be wrong.
And I've never understood Persian to be interchangeable with Muslim. More the other way around with people not understanding the distinctions between Arabic and Persian language/culture. But that confusion makes sense considering the region is now predominantly Muslim and Islam is tied to Arabic language/culture.
I was born a Muslim. Islam is the rightful religion. I am really happy to be Muslim. I feel safe in this religion and it feels right and pure. If you have a Muslim friend ask him the same question and see what he/she answers.
Thank you for your question, do you need any further information?
Alsalamu Alaykum, It felt right because there is evidence if not I would have left it. There are rational reasons, when I read Qur’an everything that the Qur’an says has rational reason. TimLavey have you heard of Sheikh Yusuf Estes? Search him up on YouTube if you would like to know his beautiful story and why he converted to Islam. Otherwise here is a link about an Australian man that converted to Islam it won't harm you I promise, have a look at it. [link]
Somehow I feel very lucky to be born Muslim. I have a reason for staying Muslim, it just feels right everything in The Qur’an feels right it helps us with our problems and teaches us that if we have a problem we should ask Allah almighty for help. If you need help finding your path, God (Allah) will help you. Half of my friends were Christians, I respected them and as did they. They no proof that claims they are Christians (Other than the necklace or bracelets they wore of the cross) they did not attend Church nor did they know a lot about their religion. I'm sorry to say, what's the point of claiming you are Christian when you do nothing that show's it. I as a Muslim pray five times a day, fast in Ramadan, give zakat to the poor...etc. when people see me do that they will know I am Muslim immediately, I am not saying this to all Christians of course. I would also lie to say that there are some people who grew up Jewish, Christian and whatever and they did not feel right.
I hope I was clear and I would like it if you spent some of your rare time watching the video I sent.
I listened to this Ruben's conversion story and I can't say that I get the impression that he so much converted because of the evidence as for Islam being a bit different for him and more to his liking than other religions. He obviously made an effort too to convert to Islam and he wanted to believe so it's no big surprise really that he did end up a muslim. Come to think of it, have there ever been someone who converted to a religion solely because of evidence offered in support of its article of faith? I somehow doubt it. Evidence always seem to be of secondary, if any, value to the religious. That seems to be the case for you too. No offence.