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Moral men and women will deny women equal rights.

:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012
Moral men and women will deny women equal rights.

Seeking and demanding sanctity is one of the main five best rules of morality. Those rules shown below closely resemble most religious rules. For humankind to give an idea sanctity they must give sacrifice to it. The sacrifice that we must all do is deny women equality and give men a lower position in rulership. Men must bend the knee to women and elevate them to our ultimate sovereign. Those women and men who do not demand this are not in the best moral state of mind and should try to move to it.

We are all natural animals and follow the hierarchical rules of those species which have Alpha males. The main survival strategy of such a species is that the Alpha males will fight to the death to insure that the Beta females live.

Females, as the incubators of life and the most important within that species, must have the highest protection to insure that they will survive to continue the life of that species. Men, being the most physically powerful and having a more natural tendency to rule, must take a leadership role to insure this continuity. The Alpha of any species fights to insure that the Beta always has the highest position. The Kings and all other men IOW, must rule as the power behind the throne but the Queen is the one who must always sit on that throne and rule over the King.

The research done by Mr. Haigt shows that the right wings of religions and politics show more concern with tribalism than do the left wings. It appears then that if we are to move to the most advantageous moral position then it is to the right wings to promote it. As an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian, I am the left of center and not in the best camp to sell the view that women should rule even as I recognize that they should. The right has been given a wakeup call thanks to president Obama being re-elected. FMPOV then, the right needs a new platform if they are to survive, as they should to balance the political spectrum.

Generally speaking only; women are the weaker of the sexes and are better places to know what the requirements of survival are and should thus rule. Women should then demand the full protection and sacrifice of the Alphas males as that is the natural order of hierarchical species and must be to insure survival. This sacrifice gives sanctity to our species and insures itís longevity. The religious and political right seem better suited to lead towards this end.

In my opinion, men and women who do not agree with this premise are not taking the best moral position for families or for society at large. This issue is more in the hands of men than women and in that sense men would be more immoral than women if they do not deny women equality and place women above themselves.

Should the religious and political right take up this best moral position and demand that equality be denied to all women and demand that they be given their rightful and natural position above men?

Please see the research and logic behind this premise.

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DL
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:iconstaple-salad:
staple-salad Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Ummm no.

Your premise is wrong from the start. Our closest living relatives (Bonobos) have a very female-dominant society, so to just suggest that CLEARLY we are a male-dominant species is flawed without addressing that point.

It's hard to argue with you, not because there's no argument to be made against it, but just because your premise is so off base...
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012
We are male dominated because our males are larger than the females.

Bonobos just happen to have the females larger than the males and that is why it is reversed with them.

You have chosen almost the only exception to the rule and on that flimsy evidence your deny reality and the other 90% who follow the rule I stated.

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staple-salad Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012
Not always. I'm bigger than almost all males I know (bigger muscles, bigger frame, taller), and I'm not that much of an outlier among females. Humans don't have that much in the way of difference between males and females. And any difference that we do have is easily overcome.

There are many, many more exceptions than bonobos, bonobos just also happen to be our closest living relatives.

Plus your OP is just reinforcing all the negative stereotypes out there about people in my field...

(also, no offense ment but I suggest you stop signing your posts, that's what a signature is for and you can create one that will automatically attach. Actually posting it at the bottom of each post outside of a signature makes it sound pompus and jackassy rather than classy and polite)
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 18, 2012
Yep. "And any difference that we do have is easily overcome." .

Yes indeed. That is why the huge majority of domestic violence is men against women and women can easily overcomer this.

Now I see why you used the word jackassy.

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DL
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staple-salad Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2012
Not really. There are many cases of domestic violence committed by women. That, as well as women raping men, tends to be underreported because men are afraid of seeming emasculated.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Possibly.

Your male female violence statement is also true but the ration is something like 95% male to 5% female and is not statistically significant.

This is partly why women are more important to most families. Far fewer in jail.

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DL
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staple-salad Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
Again, it's significantly underreported. Although men still do a lot of the more damaging violence, women are pretty tough themselves. And as far as instigation is concerned, it is much more closer to a 50-50 ratio than 95-5.

Fewer women go to jail because of sexist people like you who insist that males are more violent and harmful. Therefore, abusive women are often treated like victims and don't get in trouble for it. If people like you would recognize facts rather than sexist stereotypes, maybe the world would have a better time combating domestic abuse against men.

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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2013
Ok. Women are more violent than men. To fools.

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DL
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delusionalHamster Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow what the actual fuck?

A post full of crazy.
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BeeSull Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
It certainly is. :nod:
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:iconvulpimo:
Vulpimo Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012
'We are all natural animals and follow the hierarchical rules of those species which have Alpha males. The main survival strategy of such a species is that the Alpha males will fight to the death to insure that the Beta females live.'

If you had even very basic knowledge of biology, you would know that in many species it's female specimen that are dominating.

'Females, as the incubators of life and the most important within that species, must have the highest protection to insure that they will survive to continue the life of that species'

Again, ignorance level over 9000. Example of nature? Here you go, lions. Which gender provides hunters there?

'women are the weaker of the sexes'

The stupidity of this statement actually burns. Lack of physical strength is often made up for by agility. Plus advantage in intelligence.

'In my opinion, men and women who do not agree with this premise are not taking the best moral position for families or for society at large'

Assumption that units are below families and society. In fact, families and societies are just sums of their members, of units.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Exactly and the male protecting the one family as the best moral way means that all families should as well for a healthy community.

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DL
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:iconvulpimo:
Vulpimo Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Actually, no. It's sexist and it could be relevant in middle ages, but in modern society, 'protecting family' becomes outdated as only the state has means to.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Really.

Then you do not believe that women and children should get the first seats in the life boats then?

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DL
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:iconvulpimo:
Vulpimo Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
It doesn't have anything to do with 'protection' lol
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Then join the Captain Coward fan club if you think he had nothing to do with protecting anyone.

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DL
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:iconvulpimo:
Vulpimo Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
you are mistaking every possible thing lol.
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:iconafter--life:
After--Life Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Too bad Islam established women's rights 1400 years ago, and today, modern society is still trying to figure it all out.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012
I guess you forget that male supremacy is in the O T which was written way before 1400.

He shall rule over you. God's own words while evicting A & E and in effect murdering them by neglect and locking away what would keep them alive. The tree of life.

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DL
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:iconthenaughticallife:
TheNAUGHTicalLife Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Professional Writer
Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is God's.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
What is God's?

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DL
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:iconthenaughticallife:
TheNAUGHTicalLife Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Professional Writer
Ask Jesus.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012
Scapegoats do not talk. They just die and Christians try to profit from that death of an innocent victim.

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DL
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:iconthenaughticallife:
TheNAUGHTicalLife Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Professional Writer
Everybody dies. Scapegoats don't die from being scapegoats. You're indignation machine is overheating.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012
Yes. From Christians trying to immorally shed their responsibilities.

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DL
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carusmm Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Equality is an illusion created for the good of justice.
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0rg Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
hey great thread and all but ending all your comments with "Regards DL" makes you look like a huge shit-eater, just thought I'd throw that out there

I will now wait patiently for your witty riposte
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:iconnecroraevyn:
NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Writer
For some reason, I do not think humans are extincting.
DUDE OUT THERE PEOPLE ARE DYING OF OVERPOPULATION!
If we don't get the human birth rate under control, life is going to be hell in a few centuries.
You are what I call a CSJ or VIP, Completely Sexist Jerk or Very Ignorant Person (Pig?).
Haigt in my opinion is some guy who have decided to base his career upon stuff he made up, gibberish, or that he is really, really bored.
PS: Some people arent Christian! Surprise for you there.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
No but you seem to be out of touch with reality as things are perhaps the best they have ever been including the population. We do have some problems to solve but we are well on our way.

Stop thinking that the sky is falling and get some info before making foolish statements.

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DL
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Student Writer
Sometimes you have to stay negative and think the worst. The sky is falling. You should also work on getting more info about your topic ( in this case, about global population) before making foolish statements.
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emilyericson Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Please take your butchered traditional or "moral" gender roles and shove them in a cave so far away that no one will ever, ever find them. Everyone needs and deserves equal rights, and trying to deny them to women is NOT helping anyone, it's sexist bullshit.
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Read what I wrote again for the first time.

Raising women up is hardly sexist.

Read it slowly if need be child.
You will get it.

Regards.
DL
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emilyericson Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I read it carefully the first time, thank you. And it's still sexist bullshit. People should choose how to live their lives and what gender roles to follow or not follow. Men shouldn't be told that they cannot do things that women can do and vise versa. Equal rights, equal chances, equal everything. Women are pushing for what is rightfully ours: equality. Raising one gender up over the other (if that's what you think your ideas would really be doing) is unfair to both genders.
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Hotaru-Suzume Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012   General Artist
If our species were actually in danger of extinction, conducting society in this matter would be very valid as a matter of practicality, but we are presently overpopulating this planet. The immdiate concern should not still be of who is to be doing what according to their biology, as it is now in our best interests to find other inhabitable planets. We can't survive indefinitely as a species for as long as we remain in a single... galaxy, actually, at least according to current ideas. In any case I do wish people would actually try to understand your post; I don't think it is entirely relevant to present day humanity but we may find circumstances in life where it is best applied.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
We have a long wait before space travel becomes real. Einstein and his E=Mc2 has to go first and it looks like it will be here forever.

Unless people want to spend generations on huge arks/ships, we are on earth to stay.

As to extinction of humans is concerned, we are like any other animal. If we do not follow our natures and place women and children above men, whatever chances are for extinction for us will be increased.

Imagine where dogs would be if in the wild, the alpha did not fight for his mate, offspring and group.

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DL
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:iconhotaru-suzume:
Hotaru-Suzume Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   General Artist
It can be real and we can only get there by working toward it, not waiting while a grossly underfunded NASA does what it can with what it has. As I understand at just a tenth of lightpseed, which we can quite reasonably reach in space, we can cover respectable distances (ie. reaching closeby stars) within one human lifetime. If any major organisation can be incentivised into investing heavily into space travel with the goodness of humanity at the heart of its intentions (fat chance I know), the technology could advance a lot more comfortably.

That is neither here nor there at this moment in time however, true. As I thought I made clear before, I am aware of what is necessary for our survival should it come to that, but we face no danger to our survival at the hands of our ecosystem anymore. We are simply beyond that, our next concern is maintaining the Earth. Our concern is no longer how efficiently we can multiply; we've done that, that task is complete; time for the next if we want to survive forever.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012
"but we face no danger to our survival at the hands of our ecosystem anymore"

One comet or asteroid or pesky germ or virus is all that stands between us and extinction. Sure we are bright but many more species have gone extinct as compared to what we have here and now.

We are here and planet bound not because of any hardware or funding requirements. They are nothing. We are here because we cannot go fast enough anywhere. That is why we must kill E=MC2 or stay right here.

But who can say what we might develop. Like discussions of God's existence, all it can be for the moment is speculation and opinion.

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DL
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:iconhotaru-suzume:
Hotaru-Suzume Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012   General Artist
...

I'm done.

This isn't worthwhile.
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NecroRaevyn Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Student Writer
The likelyhood is that if an astroid or something hits Earth, somebody will find out before it actually happens.
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stalkingmeat Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
I don't have time to watch the videos, but isn't OP talking about chivalry in general?
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:icongreatest-i-am:
Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
Basically, yes.

At least the underlying principles of it.

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DL
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puppy-dangerous Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
I can see where you're coming from, but I don't think that shifting the balance of power totally to women is the answer. I don't believe that either sex should rule.

Though I do think that it would be better in general if women were in charge of parts of government, particularly concerning the welfare of the group.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
We have no argument to pursue and would likely agree on most points my friend.

Let me just say that someone must rule and that I just think that the best man for the job would be a woman.

Men are there to enforce and protect the office but have proven over time that they lack the ability to see the whole picture and that is why we are losing the sanctity of women and the family.

Sanctity needs sacrifice and men should be making them as women have been discriminated against for 3,000 years unjustly. We owe them and justice demand that we pay up.

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DL
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
I...approve, except the premise that women are weak. Just try to show me how much stronger you are, and I'll lay your sorry ass on the ground, literally and metaphorically. Weaker sex my ass! And which of us can be made vulnerable at any given time, instantly, by no more than a mediocre groin tap? Women should rule because men are imperfect copies of us. ;)
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Hotaru-Suzume Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012   General Artist
As I understand, a blow to the breasts is similarly painful.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
And as I understand from experience, if a blow to the boobs is even comparable to a testicle hit, it's only because you're going through a major growth and even then, it won't bring you to your knees as it typically does for men.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
No argument. I know some women who would mop the floor with me.

Please allow my generalization above because of my old fashioned upbringing that says that a man is a bully to hit any woman even if she towers above him.

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DL
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Babushka-Nipples Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
Fuck off sexist pig. We've evolved. We're not fucking cavemen.
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Greatest-I-am Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
No!

Is this the work of civilized men?

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DL
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Babushka-Nipples Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2012
I don't fucking care. No man is over me.
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