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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Is humanism dead?
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:iconcarusmm:
carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
All truths are one in brotherhood.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Love is fleeting, truth is eternal. The truth of humanism is that it shall not die.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Fear is a symptom of death.
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pieaceOfmind Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Artist
death is the fear of the unknown, haha you have allot of interesting posts. very thought pravoking
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Procrastination is a symptom of nihilism.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Humanism is such a terrible waste of time.
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pieaceOfmind Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Artist
i disagree with this though. its cause everyone is so cultured to be narcissistic; the nature of money is narcissistic. if everyone thought humanitarian then perhaps third be less problems. if i lived in a nabore hood where no one thought about jacking cars, then that problem wouldn't exist. now what if someone states "this is so nice i don't half to worry about my car getting jacked" now that problem is a variable.

to ground myself though, i could understand how it could be seen as a waste of time. if no one els is doing it then why bother, or if it doesn't effect you then who cares. i look at it like a giant game, and being humanitarian doesn't get you further in it.

however if your in a river of shit are you going to just say fuck it im already covered in shit?
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If you're in a river of shit, you're going to get out; aren't you?
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pieaceOfmind Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Artist
i would certainly try
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Exactly, we can't live in shit and succeed at being human.
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pieaceOfmind Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Student Artist
i agree i think theirs more to living than a paycheck
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
To be a poet one must live.
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KlaxonLithology Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You take a fuck
And a shit
And a fuck
And a shit

And you make a fuck shit stack
A fuck shit stack.


In other words, I have nothing better to add.
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Mr-bananasham Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
I applaud you for reggie watts.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I will see your fuck and raise you a shit.
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EbolaBears Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
If Humanism includes cannibalism, I am all for it!:w00t:
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Tianithen Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
no
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Solum-Ipsum Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Depends. What is humanism? [link]
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shockwaveplasma Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Definition according to the British Humanist Association

Roughly speaking, the word humanist has come to mean someone who:

trusts to the scientific method when it comes to understanding how the universe works and rejects the idea of the supernatural (and is therefore an atheist or agnostic)
makes their ethical decisions based on reason, empathy, and a concern for human beings and other sentient animals
believes that, in the absence of an afterlife and any discernible purpose to the universe, human beings can act to give their own lives meaning by seeking happiness in this life and helping others to do the same.

Thanks to more celebrity Humanists such as Stephen Fry and Prof Brian Cox, it seems to be slowly growing.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
James Joyce described a humanist best: "I shall not serve" and "I am a servant."
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StupidStudios Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
The objectivism movement's pretty popular right now, and they're a branch of humanism. It's a shame they're now on the Republican-buttcamp and misread the message of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged en masse.
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skulkey Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
nah, it's just hibernating. talk to some anarchists.
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timmy64 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Is reincarnation making a comeback?
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Tianithen Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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cowboypunk Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
I suppose it is in the same sense that art is, or god is, or any other largely philosophically based concept that is highly susceptible to change.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
Which kind?
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Humanism is a meaningless word to try to get more credibility for you than other people have without even having the decency to make your ideology include in it's name it's definition.

Or in other words; call yourself logical in the hopes this means no one will require you to actually justify your logic, because it's self justified by you being logical.
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AJGlass Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Humanism is a meaningless word...

According to the dictionary, it has a meaning:

Humanism: Any system or mode of thought or action in which human interests, values, and dignity predominate. A variety of ethical theory and practice that emphasizes reason, scientific inquiry, and human fulfillment in the natural world and often rejects the importance of belief in God.
Source: Dictionary.com - [link]


               ...and right about now, someone's feeling dumb.
          :paranoid:

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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Yeah. I know how dictionaries work. That "meaning" is a long winded way for someone to pretend that their ideology takes into account "human interests" as if other ones were designed to appeal to what's worst for everyone. I explained it in my first post.
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AJGlass Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Professional Artisan Crafter
Actually, the definition doesn't pertain in any way to other ideologies.

In other words, you're reading into it what isn't there.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No' I'm recounting how it's actually used compare to how it's users want to use the dictionary definition to try to make points by lumping them together.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
Humanism has a meaning; the problem is no one can sum it up nicely enough to come to agreement on a comprehensive definition. "God" has the same problem, so if you want to argue humanism is meaningless, you're also arguing god is meaningless in my opinion.

If it were up to me, I'd define it as any of several ideologies that emphasize the most valued human achievements and abilities. There's several because what's valued differs by culture and over time, eg humanism in the 1500's was different from modern secular humanism.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The word god IS nigh-meaningless for almost exactly the reason you described. Lots of people have meaningless conversations with eachother based entirely on either lumping more ideas or less together than the person they're talking to wants to. Some people miss other's points entirely, and others assume they "should" be making more based on a mere definition.

For instance, I can;t even count the amount of times I've seen someone talking about the concept of god, and someone else going "but do youUU mean teh ZEUS?" even though that is an entirely different concept. The (pretend) confusion stems from the fact that there is two different things sharing the same word merely because the ideas vaguely overlap in some areas.

However, humanism is different since the definition in and of itself seems to be implying that it is doing something that is not hypothetically true for everything. (if it is not, said things likely fall to similar prey that the internal logic of humanist philosophies then would) An automatic begging the question. And since it makes no additional claims, then for someone to use it to describe an ideology is meaningless, since it's not describing what it's actually doing. It's only being used as a phrase meant to discredit others by saying they do not take into account enough human interest. Which is trying to use what is a hypothetically objective word to make a subjective statement, even if it were hypothetically correct that those ideologies failed to succeed at their goals.

Or in other words, what I said before, but with more words.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
I agree, hell I tend to be first in line to ask "which god?" I see what you're saying, but a term being vague or too broad doesn't make the various concepts it is used to represent meaningless. The concepts just need better terms or the terms need better definition or both. The definition of humanism is too broad but the concepts it's used to represent are distinctive.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
And you are absolutely bonkers.
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EnuoCale Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Í̶̵̼̞̤̟̮̟̪̤̺̣͚͚̝̖̜͘͘ ̨̯͚̦͝a̡̹̜̤̱͓͟͜͞͠m͏̡̧͚̱̫͓̮͓̱̖̦̞̲͎͓̙͢ ̷̡̛͍̱̞̗̞͇̩͓̞̦̜͉̜́͢ͅý̧̩̭͇̭̖͓̙̱̰̫͇̼ͅo͏̸̶̻̣̞͇͎̤͔̻̬̤͉̺̜̙͍̘̣̕͟u͏̡̬̳͇̫̫̩̦͕̘̝̹r҉̺͚̟̩̯͙͙̰͔͍͘ ̴̡̩͍͖̱̰͓̯̞͇̯͝ͅĢ̡̡̣͖̪̘͇͍̮̜͇̘̱̺̮͟o͢҉͏̙͈̱̮͕̟͎̬̦̩͈̼̘͍̪̯͓̝d̴͚͍̭̱̩͍̦̖̲̹̭̠̝̯̦̪ͅ,͢҉̺̟͈̰̥̝̣̙̣̲̟͙͓͕̮͚͢ͅ ̵̡̼͚̰̬̜̝͚̲͢͡n̞̝̠̭̬͈͍̲̖̰͘ͅo̸̮̤͓̲̟̰͈̻̳͔̺̼̺̲̣͔̯͘̕w̡̪̟̘̲̭̝̘.̴̶͍͇̠̺̻͚̻̤̪͍̺̻̻͖͈̜͍̟̟͢͡
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StripedPower Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   Digital Artist
THIS.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
All our dreams are nightmares.
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opiumrooster Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
penis.
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hippo-rim-job Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Are you high?
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StripedPower Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   Digital Artist
All my dreams are pleasant and awesome. :heart:
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I'm sure they are, that doesn't answer the question though, does it?
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StripedPower Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012   Digital Artist
What question? I was refuting your comment.
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
No
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jarringx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
lol, how could you ask that?

FOOTBALL
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Football is a humanism?
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jarringx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
yea, it's primarily about the feats of human capabilities...so...
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I see your point, it doesn't help me though.
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jarringx Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012  Student General Artist
what do you need help with?

it's been around since man, whether or not he'd believe it.
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Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
No
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