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Christian View of homosexuals. I hope this does not sound rude or ignorant, but I don`t understand

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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Please enlighten me!

Why is it that many of Christians are against homosexuals?
Obviously not all denominations (I hope I used that word correctly....) are against homosexuals. I also realize that not all individuals, even when the practice the religion the condemns the homosexuals, do not always hate gay people.

I only attended Bible school for one week over summer when I was young, so any of my knowledge is limited and mostly based on what I learned in history class.
I think that homosexuals were condemned in the Old Testament, right?
But didn`t Jesus challenge some of that kind of stuff in the New Testament?

I never understood the lack of support for these people from the Christians because I have always heard, "God loves everyone" and that even when we sin, God doesn`t love you less (I remember that because they asked us once if our parents loved us less when we misbehaved). Also, isn`t hate a sin? So by being against those people (I have a friend who is Christian, she says she hates gays and transgenders. She said they don`t deserve rights she specifically said that she wanted Romney in office just because he would take those kinds of actions) and hating them, doesn`t that make them sinners, too?

Anyways, thanks for reading and I would love a response. I truly am curious, I really don`t mean to step on any toes or anything. I just never quite understood......


Oh, just found this!
"Those who commit the sin of laying with another man are guilty of being an abomination, and they shall be forever in the company of Satan when they finally get scrubbed off of Jesus' earth." - Leviticus 31:22

Is that really it, then? Just one quote with now reason behind it? No explanation as to why?
I get a lot of the other sins. For exampl
Gluttony is bad becuase it is wasteful and greedy, understandable
Theft is taking something that another worked hard to gain, definitely bad
Envy leads to theft, so I see why that is condemned
but I don`t see the homosexual thing....
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Wesmeadow Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
God is viewed as the creator of life, pro procreation
Homosexuals are viewed as being against procreation by their observable nature

So some theists have issue with homosexuals and view them going against nature itself.

What those theists do not comprehend, homosexuals:

That have blood related offspring from past marriages that did not work out (considering they figured out the hard way they are gay)
That raise unwanted children
That do sperm donor injections to have kids

So in reality they are not at all against procreation.

I work for a lesbian couple and they have grandchildren.
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reesewhyte Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Keep in mind that the Bible was written centuries after the actual conception of the story of "Jesus", by several different authors throughout Europe and the Middle East. These were Bronze Aged people who at the time believed the world was flat and that the plagues they contracted due to complete ignorance of hygienic practices was "God" punishing them. Many people forget that the Bible and the stories within them were created by men to control a population that was largely clueless of the world they lived in. In order to regulate the behavior of people at that time, they had to instill rules reinforced by fear for people to take anything that was written seriously.

Homosexuality is present in nearly every species on Earth. Think of it as a natural form of population control. Many people just use their religious views as justification for their own discomfort and misinformation.

I think people really need to consider that if they choose to call themselves "Christians", that they can't just cherry-pick whatever portions of the Bible they want and disregard the blatant atrocities it's riddled with. For something that threatens you with "Hell" if you don't follow it's specific teachings, you would think more people would be mindful of what teachings and practices they associate themselves with.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That has been brought up and is definitely a good point.

It is VERY common, so when people make claims that it is 'unnatural', they are just plain ignorant. Many people use that as a reason, but it just makes them look foolish. Never thought of it as being population control, intresting way to think about it :D

I totally agree. I do not have a religious affiliation, but when I see other people say 'Oh, I`m (insert religion here)' and then they get all offended because someone 'disrespects their religion', but then these same people don`t follow many of the rules of the religion that they had defended so strongly just a few moments before. Often times, the comment was not even meant to be rude or hurtful. I feel like it is disrespectful to the people who truly follow the religion (and the religion itself) to not fully belief or practice it correctly and still say they are religious.
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cooldas Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hi, I'm a Christian.
I don't know if anyone mentioned this already...(I don't want to read 14 pages of comments) but in Christianity, marriage is actually a symbol of Jesus and the Church (Christians). Jesus is like the husband and the Church is like the wife--the husband protects and loves the wife and the wife follows and respects her husband. There can't be two husbands or two wives--it doesn't make sense. Also, when God created the world, he created one man, and one woman and they were the ideal example of marriage. One woman, one man. (When you read the parts of the Bible where a man had more than one wife, there was always problems.)
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:XD: That is understandable~

A lot of that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D
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chocolategrr Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
In the Bible it says god created man and woman. Also not be any relationships of homosexuality. Enough says in the Bible to make a lot of christian's believe gay is a sin. Which causes hate and things like that. I respect homosexuals because, they are simply people who like a different gender I don't see anything wrong with that.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D

It is also good of you to respect them :)
Even the Christians should not hate them, mostly because hating something, even though it is against there religion, is against their religion ;)
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chocolategrr Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Student General Artist
Your welcome. :) And yes respect to everyone and there is less hate. ^^
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
People hate what they don't understand and use anything they possibly can to justify it. Their religion is just among the long list of excuses that people use in order to say "I have a right to hate your guts!" when in reality, no excuse should justify that level of absolute hatred and fear.

Simply put, it's human nature to hate things, homosexuals or otherwise. It's disgusting, but it happens.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D

It is a shame, though, huh?
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Consider the fact that it's more likely than not and that I also lack the time to go through the replies to make sure I'm making a unique one. =P
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Totally understandable~
Just wanted to make sure you knew that I appreciate that you took the time to answer :)
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
I agree with you alright. But meh, not my problem.
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Truth is, it is your problem. It's everyones problem. There will always be someone who hates your guts for seemingly no reason or hate your guts for one part of your personality. Inevitably, you will do that to someone else as well.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Well, even if someone hates my guts for whatever reason, it's usually not my problem and I don't care.
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, because you're invulnerable to everything. :roll:
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012   Traditional Artist
I think he's trying to be cool or something. I don't know. But he just ends up making a fool of himself :stare:
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PrairieLily Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's an example of someone who never grew out of the "I'm invincible" phase, methinks.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
How it is a person hate me or the contrary love me should be any of my concerns?
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ZEGH8578 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
You need to wake up. You do realize that people get _killed_ out in the real world, right?
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student General Artist
Do I know it happens? Of course I do. So, what's your point here? I'm not really concerned about others, so why should I pretend to be concerned over who loves me and who hates me?
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012   Traditional Artist
Obvious. If a lot of people hate you, then there's a larger risk that one of them is willing to kill you.
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student General Artist
Of course, but depending on the cause, it can be resolvable or can't be resolved. Either way, it won't matter on the whole grand scheme of things because death can be caused by so many other things.
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lydaday Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
people just use their religion to justify their hate mongering. why would you want to learn more about that book anyways? seem odd to me.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, the whole issue seems odd to me. I like to learn and this seemed worth learning about. Homosexuality is an issue in the country. It had an effect on this past election I think. Not to mention, countless kids are bullied because of it (not saying that the bullying is because of religious reasons...).

Learning about this gives more insight on one side of this story.
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Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The hatred might have it's origin in bible passages but in this case and all cases outside of it - I've noticed the same. It is just much easier to hate and fear something you don't understand than it is to undertake the process of seeing from their point of view. It is also not taught to children that they can come to understand and appreciate reasoning behind other schools of logic but not agree with them at the same time.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D
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Spudfuzz Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's mentioned already probably because it's true. ;P
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yep!
Hearing it from multiple sources tends to be the best way to validate information.
Unless of course, all of the sources are spewing the same rumors and misconceptions ;)

I really do appreciate that you took the time to respond.
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ClefJ Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I figure the cultural stigma from the Old Testament, followed into a lot of the new, was the Judaic rebellion against a lot of foreign influences. Hellenism in particular, where Homosexuality was almost a common occurrence.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A lot of that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D
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DoctorV23 Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012
This really all goes back to instinct and herd behaviour - way before religion.
E.g.: the "Group" has a certain code of behaviour; x is acceptable but y is not. Non-conformists are called evil or wrong and ostracised.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D

This was definately an interesting point that I had not thought about.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Have you ever done crowd psychology?
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Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Some people are homophobic in the first place, they use religion as a spring-board for it. Others are homophobic because they think the Bible tells them to and they're too stupid to make up their own minds about certain issues.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
that had been mentioned already, but thanks for the input anyways :D

I`ve noticed that some people follow their pastor/preacher (not sure what they are called :p) like mindless sheep...........
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Apparently, you have never met secular homophobes. Meh.
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Vanhir Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I never said anyone religion was a requirement for homophobia. Hence "some".
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ReptillianSP2011 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Student General Artist
Oh, in that case I apologize, but the overall sentiment seems to connect with religion or bible, but meh.
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Ferres Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012
Remember, Christ's view and the Christian view are 2 different animals.
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:XD:
That has been brought up, but thanks for the input!
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Ferres Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012
:D
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Ink-Robertson Featured By Owner Nov 18, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Homosexuality leads to forms of sodomy, anal and oral sex. It is a sin mainly because of this However "God loves everyone" despite their sins. Lol if every Christian hated homosexuals then we wouldn`t be Christians now would we, ever here the phrase "Hate the Sin, not the Sinner"? Hope I helped somehow
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I had not until several other people brought it up here :)
Unfortunately, that is not the case with some of the 'Christians' I know....
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Ink-Robertson Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Sorry, some "Christians" don't show my God justice sadly... if you get the chance, a man named Ghandi had excellent advice for Christians, anyway your welcome :)
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Zanedia Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
no... they don`t...
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Ink-Robertson Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Okkk...... well good luck to you
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DragonsNapalm Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
Why are sex acts, like anal and oral sex, considered sins?
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Ink-Robertson Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Because it shows your only seeking sexual pleasure, and that can control you if you let it. The whole point of a Christians life is Self-Control or more specific Chasity. Some don't do sexual activity to show this control. Don't wanna get into debate if thats where your trailing this. Sorry if my assumption is rude I just woke up lol
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MaryYana Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2012   Traditional Artist
Ehhh... No. Homosexuals are in love for real just as much and often as heterosexuals. They just happen to have another preference.
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