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On interpreting the Bible...

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kyupol Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I have noticed...

That if you interpret the Bible literally, the logical conclusion is to be an atheist or agnostic.

But if you look at it on a deeper level, the logical conclusion is either:
1) Full acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
2) Spiritual non-religious / New Age / Eastern / Wiccan / etc.
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:iconkingstephenarthur:
KingStephenArthur Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student Photographer
if the bible isn't literal, then why should I believe it? if it is literal, then it's just fucking stupid. it's a lose-lose situation for The Bible, lol.
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Smkiller Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist
My interpretation of the bible: If the God portrayed in it is real, he's a dick, and not a God I could ever see myself worshipping.
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RebelionRoja Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Student General Artist
I read the bible but not everything, though, I'm more than sure that death and that kind of stuff that happens on the world happen... I don't blame God... I have my faith, and I'm a very happy person, though, I'm kinda pissed off at both stupid atheists and stupid religious, can't there be a middle ground can it?
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saintartaud Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Professional General Artist
I have no idea what you're trying to argue. The tendency to read the entire Bible literally comes from a particular approach used by some Christians. It's not anything unique to atheists. When atheists rely on that approach, they tend to reveal their ignorance about the diversity of approaches throughout Christianity. But then, you don't have to read it literally to decide a good chunk of it is BS. As a "spiritual non-religious," just sayin'.
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:iconknightster:
Knightster Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
If it's not meant to be taken as it's written then why the fuck was it written in such way?
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catelee2u Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe there's some truth in the Bible but look on it as part of a larger spirituality. I happily take truth from any religious or non-religious text. I do believe Jesus was someone of higher spiritual quotient than average and a Son of God as are most bringers of truth.
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El-and-Noxi Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist
If you interpret the Bible literally, the logical conclusion is that you should be in a straitjacket.
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
The only reason anyone who isn't already Christian or interested in finding a faith cares how the Bible is interpreted is its influence in politics. Single exception: professional and hobbyist theologians. Ie, as a member of a completely different religion, if the Bible were rewritten in pig latin and had new chapters added that said you have to spend 30 minutes shaking your genitals at a horse everyday it has no effect whatsoever on what I believe and how I live; it wouldn't change anything for me religiously. There is some circular logic you're using here, even if there is some truth in that a reading of the Bible can sometimes change fundamental beliefs.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
If you took the Bible literally, you'd be mad.
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macker33 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
The problem with atheists is that they like sound bites.

But the thing is that unless its very direct you cant get the full value of something in the bible directly unless you know of something similar elsewhere,very often i am trying to triangulate something from the bible using 2 or 3 passages,I know the real learning is between these points.

Its like i am constantly sanding off rough edges.
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carusmm Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
And quoting from the Bible is not a love of sound bites? Of course not, it is simply being religious.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No they like coherency. A rarity in religious justifications.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
You go deep enough, you end up in the hospital for beating a Pastor to death with a bible while speaking tongues and throwing up.
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:iconmpsai:
MPsai Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012   Digital Artist
Define "deeper level".
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:iconciscobuddy:
ciscobuddy Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
The Bible can interpret itself. The answers to one statement can be explained in another located in a different part. An exhaustive concordance would assist with that endeavor.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
So we don`t have to read it then? Phew.

Though a book being capable of cognitive functions is quite amazing.
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ciscobuddy Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
Of course it needs to be read. But the passage being read may be better understood when other passages are read.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I was joking. You said it interprets itself. You mean the key to understand it is actually in it. Books can interpret, they do not have higher cognitive functions.
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ciscobuddy Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
Oh, sorry.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I've noticed that lots of things are plausible if you outright ignore the things about it that make it implausible.
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lyteside Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
lol. Here here.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
You can read anything on a sufficiently "deep" level to engender belief in anything, as long as you start with the assumption that what you're reading is literally true.
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hippo-rim-job Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I think if you stare at anything long enough, you will eventually begin questioning it.
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:iconkenny-white-lion:
Kenny-White-Lion Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Hmmm...Are these peas on my plate Real? Are they actually good enough to eat...Hmm, So many questions.
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hippo-rim-job Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
:iconohuplz:
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:iconbullet-magnet:
Bullet-Magnet Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
"Deeper."
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:iconreasonablerobot:
ReasonableRobot Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
i read it both ways, and went mad...
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
So your username is lying about you?
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ReasonableRobot Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
reason and madness are a lie and truth at the same time. to some, you are mad. to others, you are sane. to know is not to acknowledge, friend.
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Totally-dead Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Hey! I don`t want philosophy with my jokes!

Anyway, by almost universal consensus I am insane I am afraid.
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KillianSeraphim Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Not quite, but almost. If you take the time to study it and base your interpretation accordingly, otherwise known as hermeneutics, you still might not understand it. It takes God to explain what is going on in His own book, and it is because of this that Christians have no problems with it, like anyone else would.
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:iconkenny-white-lion:
Kenny-White-Lion Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Bible is foolishness to those that don't believe.
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:iconkillianseraphim:
KillianSeraphim Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Indeed
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:iconkenny-white-lion:
Kenny-White-Lion Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
What?
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WolfySpice Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
So, if you believe it, you don't believe it.

But if you don't believe it, you believe it.

Okay, got it.
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:iconkenny-white-lion:
Kenny-White-Lion Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Even more what?
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:iconwolfyspice:
WolfySpice Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Exactly. Just paraphrasing the OP.
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:iconsiegeonthorstadt:
siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I wonder why threads like this dont get closed like the threads about Islam. This is also not a discussion thread and belongs to a journal.
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:iconlaemperatrizmariana:
LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Because they're not long and boring. :yawn:
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:iconsiegeonthorstadt:
siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
yeah theyre just short
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:iconlaemperatrizmariana:
LaEmperatrizMariana Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not one of those where the title of the thread is a question or statement and their description is "Dicuss" or a YouTube link.
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:iconsiegeonthorstadt:
siegeonthorstadt Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
but its short
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:iconpakaku:
Pakaku Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I have noticed the bible was written ~2000 years ago.
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