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Jehovah's Witnesses: Conspiracy?

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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I don't mean that the Jehovah's Witnesses have a conspiracy against the world, but the other way around. As most of you may not know Jehovah's Witnesses absolutely DO. NOT. VOTE. I was thinking, could the whole religion just be a scam to keep the poor and disenfranchised (which is pretty much what the Jehovah's Witnesses are) from voting? And basically keep them out of any protests or movements of any kind?

Just think about it, for the first time in history the poorest of the masses are silencing themselves. It's ingenious, if that's actually the plan behind it. I grew up a Jehovah's Witness (I'm not anymore) and I always thought that there was something fishy about it, some kind of master plan behind the curtains. Do you guys think that could be it?
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Starfruity2009 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Student Digital Artist
No, i highly doubt its a scam, I know they don't vote for religious purposes, (i know because my best friend is one) and if they dont want to, so what? why so much hate? :.\ (refering to all the comments not just you)
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Kalinka-Shadows Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Jehovah's Witnesses are Russell Taze's attempt at reviving Arius style Christianity. It became a Doomsday Cult worse than normal Christianity.
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MrArius Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
I've enjoyed reading this line of thought and the comments made but I don't think what JW's believe has been made clear. In one sense JW's believe that, much like a juror on a murder case who mistakenly sentences an innocent man to death, JW's bare a personal responsibility for whatever a person JW's elect might do. Even more important however is the deeply held conviction that the only answer to the myriad of problems we face is God. Jesus, when on earth was adamant before Pilate when he said "My Kingdom is no part of this world." When Jewish crowds tried to make him King, Jesus left. JW's truly believe that Christ is now enthroned in heaven at the "right hand of God" and that the promises in the Bible will come true. If God's Kingdom's will "will be done on earth as it is in heaven" , if, as Daniel 2:44 states, "It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms" - if they actually believe that - then thier focus would, necessarily, be on that promise as opposed to local politics, they would remain "no part of this world."
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
yes, trust me I know more about the doctrine than I have ever cared to. What troubles me is that a low class marginalized population that would most likely be democratic if they weren't being brainwashed, isn't voting.
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OpalMist Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
Bunch of largely religifucked people not voting?

I'm not complaining.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
True, but at the same time it's a very unique religious base because it is mostly minority and working class which could potentially mean liberal votes. Also, without being Jehovah's Witness they would definitely be voting liberal.
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TheSmallQueen Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student General Artist
On the way to Indianapolis on Friday they handed our group their magazines at a rest stop, and I read them. It talked about religious things/parenting a teenager for a page or three and then had pages about polar bear deaths and sharks. What the hell?
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
That's supposed to signify the end of the world...polar bear deaths, whatever new catastrophe they can find.
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KingStephenArthur Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Student Photographer
they could just....vote....

I don't vote and I'm not a witness.
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
And they refuse all blood transfusions. They are so easy to kill off it seems as well.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
true, readily disposable
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
The criminal part comes when they also refuse transfusions for their children who need them.
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UncleGargy Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I do think doctors do give transfusions against parental wishes for children. Well they do in the UK. When religion becomes more important than the life of your child then that's when insanity takes over.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
When religion becomes more important than the life of your child then that's when insanity takes over.

No disagreement there.

In the US though, doctors do not have the ability to treat children against the express wishes of their parents. (In at least some places anyway; it's a matter of state law, not Federal.)
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Endeavor-To-Freefall Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Had a rediculously pretty Jehovah's Witness at my door the other day, she spent 30 mins trying to convert me while I spent 30 minutes trying to un-convert her.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
It takes months of de-programming. I know from personal experience.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
You could've saved a lot of time with some tranquilisers.
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Aren't these the crazy people who send video propaganda to people's houses?
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
not video propaganda, but magazines and such.
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I saw they were sending out anti-new-age videos, at one point. I could probably find them on youtube.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
oh great, now they're getting into the digital age :no:
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
It was in response to Harry Potter's popularity, I think :no:
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Oh my God, seriously would that cult just die a humiliating death already?
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Which cult, Harry Potter's or Jehova's? xD
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
Oh Jehovah's Witnesses, definitely. I love Harry Potter!
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
No, they're the crazy people who take magazine propaganda to people's houses. You can tell the difference between them and Mormons by the lack of book in their breast pocket and that they drive cars instead of walk or bike.
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
What would happen if a Jehova's Witness knocked on a Mormon's door?
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empiredice Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Ooh me! I've seen this happen. They politely talked for about 10 minutes and after the JW left the Mormon said, "it was so hard not to say 'it's ok, we already know the truth.'" You have to remember they think they're being polite, upstanding, well-to-do citizens, both of them. :no:

Hm, a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Seventh Day Adventist walk into a bar...needs work.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Unstoppable force meets immovable object?
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
And the result is a family feud.

Fucking llama for anyone who gets that reference.
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Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
No llama for me, then. :saddummy:
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Dianna Wynne Jones. ;n;
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
With any luck, they'd annihilate each other in a burst of heat -- but not a lot of light.
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Dragonflae Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I see what you did there.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Also, Mormons area almost always young white men in their late teens or early 20s, in dark pants, white dress shirts, and name tags identifying them with the title of "Elder". Jehovah's Witnesses are usually women and minorities as often as not.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I wonder who those guys were at the library.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
They often flock together when not actively proselytizing. For many of them it's their first significant time away from home -- they always travel away from home for their missionary work -- and there's comfort in your own kind.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
They don't preach here. They just use the the computers.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
No, not in the library. The preaching happens door-to-door.
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kitsumekat Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Not here.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Truth.

That reminds me, Book of Mormon (musical) is coming to town in January and I need to get tickets. :D
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I think the isolationism and extreme viewpoints is scary enough without tacking conspiracy theories onto the end. As far as I know, the majority of JW's aren't below the poverty line. They just believe that being involved in human politics detracts from observing God's law.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
I would disagree. I say a fair amount live below the poverty line and most of them are definitely lower class. Not even lower middle class, just lower class. This from personal experience, I've been to the three meetings a week.
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i-stamp Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
Me too, and most of them were upper middle class. And this is in Oregon.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
ew, how and why?

wealth does not equal intelligence, exhibit A.
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Cenaris Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Who cares. They're a wacked out cult that should stop trying to convert everyone. I seriously consider taking drugs, orgies and participating in blood transfusions just to scare them away.
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0rg Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
lolwhat
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Kimihro Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I lot of Jehovah's Witnesses I know are rich as fuck. :bucktooth:

I always viewed them as a cult; they're not classified as a religion by the government, and they complain about it non-stop at their seminars.
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xoPumpkinLovexo Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012
That's the other thing, it feels like the elders (congregation leaders) are always these well-to-do mother fuckers and I swear they're in on something.
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Lytrigian Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Demographics studies say they're actually poorer than average compared to other religious groups.
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